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Hello, and welcome to the All Eighties Movies podcast podcast,
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where we talked about the block listeners, love flocks, and
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everything in between from one of the freshest decades from
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movies for nineteen eighties. I'm host Bill Banton Long McBeal.
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This journey revisiting eighties movies is my co host Jason Massek. Hello, Jason, Bill.
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Don't ever, ever, ever call me stupid.
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That's right, listeners, we are discussing with spoilers of Plenty,
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the nineteen eighty eight comedy kper a fish called Wanda.
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It was produced and distributed by MGM. The movie stars
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John Cleasee, Jimmy Lee Curtis, Kevin Klein, and Michael Palin.
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Directed by Charles Crichton, this movie is rated R with
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the running time of one hour and forty eight minutes.
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The movie was nominated for three Oscars, for Best Writing,
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Screenplay Written directly for the screen, Best Director, and winning
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for Best Actor in the supporting role Kevin Klein. So
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what is this movie about? What's on the box? If
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you grew up in the nineteen eighties and went to
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your local video store to rent this movie, you would
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find this description on the back of the VHS box.
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It is What's on the box, Take it Away. Jason
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Jewel Thief. Wanda Gershwitz Jamie Lee Curtis is every Englishman's
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dream of the sexy American babe, brash, bright eyed and buxom.
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Barrister Archie Leech John Clees is the quintessential Englishman, polite,
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poised and nearly comatose. Under normal circumstances, they might never meet,
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but in a fish called Wanda, they're about to come
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crashing together in a hilarious clash of cultures. Kevin Klein
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and Michael palin Co star in this mad cap crime
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caper about a band of bumbling thieves who rip off
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a cash of diamonds from London's elegant jewelry district. The
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perfect heist soon turns into a perfect mess when the
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gang's double dealing ringleader, George, is arrested. What's more, he's
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hidden the diamonds and isn't telling where. That leaves Wanda
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with one option seduce George's lawyer. So she sets the
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bait and launches one of the wackiest deductions ever seen
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on the screen. Sink your hooks into this outrageous comedy
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written by Monty Python's John Plice and directed by Charles Crichton.
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A fish called Wanda, Fish called Wanda, So that was
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what's in the box? Jason? Do you remember when you
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first saw fish called Wanda? No, that's it, that's it.
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I don't.
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I just think I vaguely recall seeing it in the
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theater with the fam. I can't be totally sure. I
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only know I remember watching on a cable more than
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a few times as a kid, and I always thought
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it was funny, always looked forward to the parts with
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Kevin Klein. And although I always enjoyed the movie, I
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just I can't remember many specifics about it outside some
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of Klein's antics, including eating fish right out of the tank.
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So not a lot when it comes to the early
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memories for me. How about you, Bill Bant?
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Yeah, this was definitely a rental, and I remember my
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mom was rolling off the couch with Ken's attempts to
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kill the old lady expect the third one. She just
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lost it. Yeah, that always stands out to me. I
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don't remember hearing her laugh that hard, so that will
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always stick with me. That's memory I always have associated
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with this movie.
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That's fantastic because I also laughed out loud during those
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scenes during this revisit, so really looking forward to talking
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about it with you.
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Man. All right, let's talk about a fish called Wanda.
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So what are our impressions of this movie?
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Well, as I mentioned, you know, I was looking forward
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to seeing this again for you know, a lot of
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different reasons. It's been many, many years since I watched it.
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It's funny how it just kind of seemed to be
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under the radar. But my first impression is that I
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throw enjoy this movie, Bill, I just do. There is
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the nostalgic attachment of it, just the fact that I
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remember loving it so much as a kid that upon
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rewatching cable etc. On vhs, like you said you had
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rented it, no doubt I had rented it at some
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point as well. And I just laughed my butt off.
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That's all there is to it. So it was a
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little different watching this as an adult because my sensibilities
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have changed and my sense of humor is probably adjusted
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over time, there's no question. So some of the things
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I think I found funny as a kid during you know,
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whether it be like pratt Fall kind of comedy or
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physical comedy, versus the actual witty dialogue, et cetera. The
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kind of farcical nature of the film and things like that,
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all the hijinks. Some of it hit and some of
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it didn't for me. But overall, I don't want to
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come off overly nice about it or sound like, oh,
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it was just okay.
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It was really good.
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It's really well written and just a really easy watch,
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just a really fun watch.
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It's all say about that.
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What's your initial or first impression upon the revisit as
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an adult?
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So this is my big surprise watching this movie. So
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who to you was the standout character? And we have
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a lot of odd and bizarre characters in this movie.
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Who was the standout to you upon this rewatch? For me,
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the standout was Michael Palin. I think he's really really
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funny in this and now we can well, I have
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this written down. I wanted to discuss the stutter with
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you and how that hits you watching it today and
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maybe today's climate, et cetera. Sensitivity wise, I think you
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know what I'm talking about, but I appreciate what you know.
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What he was doing. He made me I couldn't keep
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my eyes off him every time he was on the
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screen because I think for me, Kevin Klein is a standout,
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no question, in the way of He's got a lot
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of the obvious funny parts. So I was already like
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predicting those and seeing those coming versus Michael Palin kind
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of surprised me a little more upon this watch.
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How about you, man, who was your standout? Jamie Lee Curtis.
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I love her. Yeah, I think this is my favorite
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movie with her in it because the premise of the movie,
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it's four people that are robbing diamonds and it's her
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and Auto, George and Ken. And then just the way
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she constantly manipulates everyone. Yep, I mean she has everyone
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eating out of the Palmer hand. And then John Clice's
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character Archie. Just the subtle things she would do in
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the movie when she goes to see Archie and she
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takes off her glasses and she blinks her eyes like
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she has a hard time seeing him, all those little
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nuanced things, or when Ken arrives at the flat and
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she pretends she's on the phone. She is just working
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these guys throughout the movie and none of them have
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any clue. I thought she was amazing. I couldn't believe
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how much I enjoyed her. I mean, Kevin Glyne won
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the Oscar for it, but I'm like, she almost should
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have gotten nominated, just how she manipulates everyone this movie.
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And she was just cracking me up anytime any of
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the characters are speaking foreign language, and she would just
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get all hot and bothered. That stuff was cracking me
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up too. I couldn't believe how much I liked her
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in this film.
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I mean, I have to agree wholeheartedly. She is so
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good and so adorable. She plays the comedy very well,
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so there's a little bit of the overtop nature of it.
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But she's extremely seductive, man. I mean, she I got
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it hook line and sinker. And if she I mean,
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I would have been one of these poor SAPs that
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fell into her trap, you know, easily, easily, very sexy,
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and you would just fall prey completely. I mean, she's
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the femme fatale. And I was watching the end of
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this film just before we're recording here, and there's a
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moment where Archie played by John Cleese, has felt like
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he's been taken by her in a way. She's been duplicitous,
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of course, and she's playing games and being extremely manipulative,
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but he fell in love with her, and there's a
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moment where she says as much, and then she looks
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at him with these eyes where you can tell she's
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fallen in love with him too, despite all the fun
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back and forth and Hyjen since she's using everyone to
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her advantage and all these things throughout, at that end,
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she's extremely vulnerable and just so kind and warm, and
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you're just like, oh my god, I would melt in
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her arms. She's wonderful. The camera just loves her, so
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totally agree. I mean, you've almost switched me over to
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making her the standout for myself as well, because it's interesting.
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She is definitely the lead of the movie, but doesn't
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try as hard or too hard to overtake all the
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other male leads. She's not chewing the scenery as much.
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Right because I think watching this, because Hevin Klein got
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the oscar for it, my expectations are higher watching his
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character in this movie. The character is funny. I think
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for me, the most laugh out loud moments where him
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just kind of appearing out of nowhere every time Wanda
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and Archie were together or wanted Ken, like he just
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came out of nowhere. It wasn't so much the dialogue
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or his actions. It was more of just seeing the jealousy,
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always making sure Wanda wasn't doing something she wasn't supposed
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to be doing according to him. So I was kind
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of interested on like how did he win this award?
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Because I mean, he was really nominated for nothing else
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going into the Oscars, and I was trying to think, like,
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what did I see him in before? Like we discussed
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him in The Big Chill, But when you really look
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at his filmography up to that point, he really didn't
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do any comedy. I think was cry Freedom was the
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movie he did before this one came out. I think
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it was more of Surprise of the Switch. But when
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you think of Kevin Klein now all you think of
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is comedies. But he really started as a dramatic actor.
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It was given this opportunity, knocked it out of the
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park and got the oscar. Like I'm wondering if this,
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if this movie was made later in his career, if
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he would have won it, because he would have been
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known for doing comedy. So it's just like, oh, this
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is just another character.
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That's a great question. I could not answer that. I
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could tell you though that when I'm watching it now.
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He has a lot of the shtick, kind of physical comedy,
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and he has things that he comes back to. I mean,
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I do love his vocal inflections at times. Some of
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my favorite lines are when he opens the safe initially
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and the jewels aren't inside, the diamonds aren't in there,
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and he's like, okay, okay, disappointed. Yes, I love that
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moment when he kind of hops up and then kicks
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the car in a jump. He's very nimble and he
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has a great physicality about him. He seems very athletic.
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He's in great shape, by the way, Yes, Or when
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he goes over to Archie's house to apologize to him
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because Wanda has insisted because otherwise the plan is going
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to fall apart and Otto pulls up in his car
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and he's like, oh, and he's practicing his apology and says, oh,
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I'm so very very very fuck youe I like. And
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of course when he returns the callback to don't call
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me stupid, don't call me stupid, and when he's smelling
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his armpit it's ridiculous. So those things are funny, but
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I also found like subtler moments different moments were funnier
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that like you did as well, when he would pop
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up at the most opportune moments, or just the faces
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he would make. One of my favorite moments is in
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the very beginning when George is laying out the plan
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for the heist and Otto, Kevin Klein is just staring
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right through him, and he's like, Otto, are you with us?
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And he's like, what, Yeah, it was the middle part.
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You know, that whole thing was the middle thing. Those
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dumb looks on his face are brilliant. So I was
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watching it and I found him extremely entertaining. However, I
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also was just going to ask you, DoD you think
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it was an Oscar worthy performance.
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I did look up who else was nominated, and of
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course now I can't remember who it was, and looking
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at the nominees there was no one. I was like, oh,
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you know what that person should have gotten. Instead, I
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didn't feel that way, and I apologize to the audience
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that I can't remember who the other nominees were. I really,
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do you think it was a surprise? It was just
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a surprise. To the academy is like, wait, Kevin Klein's
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doing great? What this is really funny? I like this,
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and it's good because comedic roles don't often get the accolades.
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Yeah, the recognition and the reward. Yeah, absolutely, No, it's
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a great point. And I wasn't asking the question as
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if I feel like he was unworthy. I just did
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find it a little surprising that he won, probably for
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the same reason because it is a comedic role. It's
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just something you wouldn't expect that it's as a surprise
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unto itself. And man, I am a fan of Kevin
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Klein for sure. I mean we covered the NHL on
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this pod. I'm a big fan of Silverado. That's one
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of my Western favorites. Dave.
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I mean, I love you to death. Have you seen
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that with him? Yes, he's very busares that's a fun
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one too.
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That's a little that he's doing com Yeah yeah, but
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I mean he's been in some wonderful film, so he's