April 27, 2026

Rain Man (1988)

Rain Man (1988)
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Season 6

"Charlie and Raymond. They are strangers. They are brothers. They have just met." In this episode, we discuss the Oscar winning drama 'Rain Man.' The movie stars Dustin Hoffman, Tom Cruise and Valeria Golino. Directed by Barry Levinson.

Rain Man - IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095953/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3_tt_6_nm_2_in_0_q_rain
Rain Man- Rotten Tomatoes: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/rain_man

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Hello, and welcome to the All Eighties Movies Podcast, the

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podcast where we talk about the blockbusters, love flops, and

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everything between from one of the frenchiest decades from movies,

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the nineteen eighties. I'm your host, Pill Banton long be

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on this journey revisiting eighties movies.

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Is my co host Jason Massek. Hello, Jason Bill, I'm

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an excellent driver.

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That's right, listeners, we're discussing with sports the Plenty. The

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nineteen eighty eight drama rain Man was produced by United

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Artists in the Goober Peters Company and distributed by MGMUA Communications.

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The movie stars Dustin Hoffman, Tom Cruise, and Valeria Golino.

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Directed by Barry Levinson, This movie is rated R with

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the time of two hours and thirteen minutes. The movie

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was nominated for eight Oscars, winning four nominees were for

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Best Cinematography, Best Set Direction, Art Direction, Best Film Editing,

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and Best Music Original Score. Wins included Best Writing Screenplay

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Written Directly for the screen for Ron Bass and Barry Morrow,

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Best Director Barry Levinson, Best Actor in the leading role

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Dustin Hoffman, and Best Picture. So what is this movie about?

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What's on the box? If you grew up in the

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nineteen eighties and what's to your local video store to

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rent this movie? You would find this description on the

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back of the VHS box. It is what's on the box,

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Take it away.

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Jason winner of four Academy Awards Best Picture, Best Director,

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Best Actor, and Best Original Screenplay. Barry Levinson's rain Man

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is a modern cinematic classic, boasting quote dazzling tour de

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force performances by Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman. Rex read

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at the Movies. This heartwarming story of the healing power

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of love is quote fascinating, touching, and full of smart surprises.

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Newsweek quote my father has stuck it to me all

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my life, complains Charlie Babbitt Tom Cruise, a callous, self

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centered young hustler who's shocked to discover his lack of

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an inheritance. Left only with his late father's prized rose

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bushes and a vintage forty nine Buick. Charlie soon uncovers

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yet another surprise, an autistic, savant brother Raymond Dustin Hoffmann.

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He never knew he had determined to extort his fair

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share of the family fortune. Charlie abducts his older sibling

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from Walbrook, the institution that has been his home. But

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what begins as an act of selfishness soon evolves into

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a mystical odyssey of camaraderie and self revelation that expands

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the confines of Raymond's narrow world and enables Charlie to

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grow beyond the limits of his hardened heart.

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Rainman, Rainman, I guess I didn't have to read that

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stuff because you were just going to reread it again

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from the back of the box. About the usc wins.

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Well, we just really really wanted to nail it down

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so that the listeners really understand exactly what oscars this

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film one, and in my opinion, deservedly so. But we

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can talk about that all right. So, Jason, do you

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remember the first time you saw Rainman. My memories is

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just not as sharp as yours, Bill Bant, but I

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believe I saw this in the theater with my family

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back in nineteen eighty eight, and ever since that first watch,

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I've enjoyed watching it every time after that. I mean,

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so many scenes are memorable, and outside of the Dustin

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Hoffman performance, I recall what really impacted me as a

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kid was Tom Cruise. I still feel to that to

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this day. I mean that it's his best acting. I

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know I'm giving some stuff away already, but besides that,

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you know, I remember when I saw Rainman. I just

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saw a journey between two brothers, self discovery coming about

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and a great soundtrack that I used to play on

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cassette all the time. I definitely owned this film score.

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And this was near or around my introduction to composer

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Hans zimmer Oh. I am a fan of to this day,

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and I do remember Bill Band. After more awareness was

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brought to autism over the years, I recalled that this

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film caught a little criticism for sensationalizing or over dramatizing it.

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But I always really liked this film as a kid

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and watched it repeatedly. So I hadn't seen it in

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a long time, and I was curious as to how

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it would affect me today. So do you remember exactly

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when you saw it Bill Band?

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I did not see in the theater, but I just remember.

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I mean, it was all over the place when it

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first came out and being a number one movie, and

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everyone was talking about it because I think it was

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around the holidays, and then I led it right into

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the Oscars and then it won the Oscars. I didn't

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catch it until it came out on video cassette and

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rented it. But I think it took me a while

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to watch it because at the time I was not

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a fan of Tom Cruise. But because I had so

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many awards and so many accolades and had been one

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of the biggest movies of the year, I had to.

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Check it out. Sure, well, there you have it. I

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think that's interesting actually to think about that. You. I

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don't know if I ever knew that about you. Have we?

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I mean, we've discussed mister Cruse in other films on

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this podcast. What have we done? Well, we did risky business,

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of course, But I don't know if you had revealed like, yeah, okay.

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The movie that turned me to Tom Cruise, of all

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movies was Days of Thunder. Oh wow, because I always

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felt like he played exactly who this character is in

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this film. That's no character that drove me up the

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wall about him. I always felt like, this is who

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he played.

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You thought that this character in Rainman was the one

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he played the most often. That's who he always just

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seemed like to me. Fascinating. Wow, we have a really

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different take. Then, well, maybe I can. I can see that.

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I can see the cockyness aspect for sure. I mean,

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you think about Pete Mitchell, Maverick, Tom Gun cocky, very

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sure of himself. Yeah, okay, well let's talk about it.

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Let's talk about our impressions. Then, all right, what do

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we think of Rainman? Now? Well, why don't we just

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if you don't mind, let's start with the cast. To me,

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when I think of this movie, I immediately go to

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Hoffman and Cruz, of course. And Hoffman wins Best Actor

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for his portrayal of Raymond Babbitt autistic savant. You know,

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we talked about him and our Family Business episode. This

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was the film he did just before that. And I

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think he's excellent in this. And I know about the

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reaction to his portrayal and his take on this and

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how it was written, et cetera. But I feel like

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I have a little bit of better hold of exactly

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what the spectrum is and what autism is. I think

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he's wonderful in this. I don't think he really has

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any false moments outside of maybe playing up a couple

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of moments for the comedy. He was still Dustin Hoffman, right,

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I mean, it's Marathon Man, all the President's Men, Kramer

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versus Kramer TOUTSI up to this point, and I recall

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always just revering him as one of the best actors

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of our generation, and so this was another example of

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that to me. Did you have any particular take on

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his performance watching this as an adult now today.

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I think he's great in this, And I know there's

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been backlash over the years, but watching him in this,

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anytime he's on screen, and just that look that he

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gives where he just almost looks like he's looking through

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the TV, looking through your living room, or looking through

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the theater every time, every time, He's so consistent on

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everything he does in this movie. I even looked up

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to see who he was against in the Oscar Race.

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I did the same. I wrote down the list. Yeah,

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oh did you? Of course I forgot how it was.

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But even though a little backlashed about the character and

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the Oscar they started calling Oscar bating, he deserved it.

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He really did. Yeah, I totally agree, and I think

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some of that backlash has died down now that there's

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been a lot more research on exactly what And let's

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make it clear just right off the bat, here is

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an autistic savant, which is a rarity, correct, So that

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is a different type of autism and it's a different

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It takes it to a different level and has different

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aspects attached to it. So you know we're talking about

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the oscars. I mean, he was up against some heavy

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hitters Hackman for Mississippi Burning, he got Tom Hanks for

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Big Max Fonsida or Pel the Conqueror, Edward James almost

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for Stand and deliver some really really solid performances in

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great films, but I think he kills it in this

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no false moments and when you talk about his reactions

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like he's seeing he's just staring through television's walls people,

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and the head movements, the physicality, the way he walks,

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the way he carries himself for slouches, or the moments

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when he throws tantrums and things like that. It's scary,

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it's unpredictable. Sometimes it's very sad, and sometimes it's very funny,

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and he just nails all the levels. So yeah, I

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think he deserved the Oscar without question. Every time I

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watch this, I do have a new appreciation for him,

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and I'm more curious to look at his filmography and

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look at the holes and my watching of his films

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like going, I need to see that. I really should

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watch this just for to remind myself how great he is,

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because I just don't see him as much anymore on

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the big screen. Yeah. I agree, he's a great actor

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and so many great performances. This is certainly right up there.

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And what just makes the character great, It's just so humanized.

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You never laugh at the character, You never make fun

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of the character. You just along with this character on

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this journey with his brother, hoping his brother gets his

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act together and understands the significance of all this. Yeah,

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one thousand percent. The movie is about the brother. That's

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why I wanted to start with the actors and just

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start with the two brothers here, and let's talk about

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the Tom Cruise piece of this. He of course, portrays

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Charlie Babbitt this wheeler dealer. It was interesting because I

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was trying to recall exactly what his occupation was in

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this film, and then I watched it and I'm like, wait,

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what is exactly that he does. He's buying imported luxury

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sports cars and then he's reselling them, and he gets

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into a little financial trouble We don't need to discuss

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all the details of it, but I figured it out.

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And obviously then finds out that his father's passed away

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and he doesn't get the inheritance. So this sends him

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on this whole journey to the discovery he has a brother,

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and then goes on the further journey with his brother

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Raymond Babbitt. And I'm gonna stick to my guns on this.

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This is still my favorite performance by Tom Cruise. He's

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coming off Cocktail after this right into Born on the

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fourth of July. Cruz is a very unlikable character in this.

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I was just trying to come up with all the descriptors.

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He's rude, dismissive, he's very short with everybody. He's a

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narcissistic jerk. He's a shady businessman. He's abusive physically and emotionally.

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I do not like him at all in this. Which

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makes me feel as a big fan of him is

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from the beginning that he's doing a hell of a

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job in this role, because this was not how I

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perceived him previous to this film at all. I thought

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this was against his type and he was the anti hero,

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you know, like he's just not likable at all, and

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it's how is he going to transform throughout? And I

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enjoy watching his journey through this, and I have some

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thoughts about that specifically for sure, but I felt like

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this was a maturation for him as an actor, like

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a real stepping stone. He had some real It seemed

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as though he took it very seriously, and he had

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some character quirks and ticks, like when he's clapping when

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he's frustrated and he's trying to keep things going all

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the time, keeping the pace up and trying to keep

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be on the move and make deals all the time.

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I think he looks fantastic in this, maybe the best

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he's ever looked. Still quite young obviously at this time.

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But yeah, maybe I'm biased because I'm a fan as

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a movie star and an actor, But that was my take,

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so I think enough. Obviously, what's in interesting about watching

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this as an adult because you first think of Hoffman

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when you think of Rainman, He's the face of it.

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But now watching it, you're going, wait, a minute, whose

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movie is it? Is this Hoffman's or is this Cruises?

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Tom Cruise's movie, meaning it's really about him. It's about

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what he's going. Don't get me wrong, it's about both

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of the brothers. But you're watching Tom Cruise go through

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the emotional journey, so they didn't know. So I'm very curious. Now,

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what's your take on his performance.

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it's the way that it was written. I mean, he's

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an asshole in this there's no denying it whatsoever, and

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drove me up the wall of that he was an

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asshole and some of the circumstances. I understood why he

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was so upset and why he was so mad, but

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I kept saying to myself, you just discovered you had

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a brother and you're treating him like shit, and it

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was driving me crazy. And then his brother would show

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glimmers of something and he'd be intrigued and then treating

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like shit again. Yeah, I'm like, come on, man, try

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no patience with him whatsoever. So that stuff was driving

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me nuts, and all of a sudden everything kind of

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dawned on him. So I just think the road was

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very rocky for him to get to where he was.

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And I think it is his movie in a sense,

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because he is the one that goes through a journey

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from being a self centered asshole to a loving brother

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who really does care for Raymond in the end, but

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he in a way puts Raymond through hell in the process,

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and I did not like that. And there was a

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couple of times I felt like I wanted to kill him. Oh,

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without question, couldn't agree more. I wrote this down, Bill

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ban so you'll see I'm in total agreement with you.

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I wrote this down an hour and nine minutes in.

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And we learn so much about Raymond's excentricity and all

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of his quirks, dealing with the autism and being a savant.

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And then we have Charlie Tom Cruise just his continuous

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struggles adapting to all of Ray's needs. But Charlie just

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doesn't show much growth in the way of empathy or

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connection with Raymond. And for whatever reason, I still find

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myself very engaged as to where the story will lead.

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But you are absolutely right. You don't really see Cruz

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make that turn until the end when he starts to

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when he really starts feeling something and becomes an actual

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empathetic human being. He's just this narcissistic prick throughout that

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is completely self centered and selfish, only worried about his

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own needs.

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He has a singular goal of making the money in

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order to pay back the creditors, the buyers that he

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owes money to. So it's fascinating that, Yeah, there's these

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little moments of discovery where he's learning things about his brother,

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and those are fascinating, but then he goes right back

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to being a prick until the end, and that's when

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he finally finds love with him himself, that he's actually

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capable of love. And I think that's interesting because we

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do know specifically what you know. We do know why

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he is the way he is because he lost his

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mother when he was two years old, and then he

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left the family. He left his dad when he was sixteen,

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and his dad was a very cold man towards him

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and they hadn't spoken to so he had no relationship

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to his parents and obviously developed a very cold heart

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as a result, and stayed that way for a long time.

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And it takes this whole movie for him to have

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any warmth at all. So that made sense to me,

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But it is true. I mean, he is. He's a

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jerk for three quarters of the movie.

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When he tells Susannah the story of why he left

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and the story about the car.

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I was like with Susannah, Okay, you stole the car.

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Why did you think he deserved the car? No, because

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you've got decent grades. Yeah, even if you got straight

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a's doesn't mean you get to drive the car unless

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your dad told you if you guts straight a's, i'll

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did you drive the car? If that was part of

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the story and he said I got straight a's in

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the b plus, my dad wouldn't let me drive the car, Okay,

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I mean still what you did was wrong, It's true. Yeah,

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but the whole reason why you separated it from your

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dad was over a car that wasn't yours and you

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felt entitled to drive it. That's not working for me, right,

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that's a great dad stories.

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Yeah. If there was more evidence to the fact that

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his dad was like this cruel man that was intimidating

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or overbearing and a perfection demanded perfectionism at all turns,

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and was brutal in different ways, but it sounds like

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he was just more of a disciplinarian that Bruce says

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as much. He says, you know, it was anything I

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did was never it was never good enough. For him,

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And obviously when he took the car for a joy ride,

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his dad reported it stolen and he ended up in jail,

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and his dad left him in jail for two days.

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So that was supposed to be this whole dramatic thing.

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But you're right, it's not quite enough evidence. You would

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think for him to either run away or leave permanently

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and never talk to his dad ever again. Right, So

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I can understand that probably could have used a little

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bit more.

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I just think I want it more of a like

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a gradual understanding of Raymond instead of of this seems interesting, Raymond,

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drive me crazy, this seems interesting. He would just get

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violent with Raymond or yell at Raymond instead of being

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mad at the whole situation. There's a situation I know

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you'll talk about later when he gets out of the

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car and he's just mad. He's just mad. I get

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that you're frustrated. Your business might be going bankrupt and

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you're stuck driving across country. The situation is terrible. Be

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mad at the situation. Don't be mad at your brother.

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Don't take it out of your brother, who you just

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met that you didn't just me, but who you've just reconnected.

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With after twenty some years, correct, right, that's the stuff

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that was driving me nuts.

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Yeah, he's very abusive towards Raymond. Yes, and he's brought

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all this up on himself. He doesn't have any patients whatsoever,

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and doesn't seem to really develop any patients except for

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in some small moments and then when they finally get

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to Vegas towards the end, so great points. You're actually

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kind of making me see this a little bit more clearly,

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because that was in the back of my mind upon

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this rewatch, where it was like, hmm, is this a

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little bit one note one or two notes but the

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same notes for about an hour and a half or

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so of a two hour and thirteen minute movie. But

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the thing is, I still just going to admit, and

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maybe it's my bias or my nostalgic attachment to it

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or whatever it might be, that I still find it engaging.

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It didn't bother me to the point where I was

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frustrated with the movie.

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It's really not until Raymond gets him the money that

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he's able to relax and see the situation and then realize, oh,

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I have a brother, right, And up to that point.

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He's just an asshole. It's all I can say. Yeah,

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he's an ass driving his own problems. Yeah, you know

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what I was thinking. I was trying to come up

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with a little more insight into this movie before we

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got on to record, and I was thinking about and

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not just spoiler alert. I'm you know, the Vegas sequence.

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I've always loved, and I was thinking even during that part.

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I'm always entertained, but I always love watching it. It's

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fun to watch, but it really is still so self

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serving for Charlie. Yeah, the only reason he's doing it

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is to literally manipulating and using his brother to get

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the money in order to pay back the people he

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needs to pay back. I mean, that's it. He's not

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doing these things for Raymond, getting dressed up and teach

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you just out of love. I mean, I think we

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starts to sense it, but I mean the impetus behind

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it is all self serving for Charlie.

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Yeah, he doesn't relax and see Raymond as a person

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until he knows his debts are paid off and he's

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gonna be okay.

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Yeah, yep, let's if you don't mind, let's move on.

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I just we got to talk about Valeria Galino for

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a moment. Man I just wanted to bring it up

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because I had a huge crush on it. Let's just

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say that as the kid, the eyes, the curly hair,

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the accent Italian, I mean, my goodness, she is adorable.

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She's beautiful. She plays the role of Susannah, Charlie's employee

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slash secretary I guess at this sales company enterprise that

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he's running. And in eighty eight she was in Big

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Top Peewee. Then this then pops up in the Hot

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Shots movies and a few other notables like Leaving Las Vegas,

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Four Rooms, Escape from La Just recently, she popped up

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in the Morning Show for eight episodes in twenty twenty one.

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She's done a lot of Italian cinema over the years.

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But Bill Bann, should she have been a bigger deal?

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I'm gonna go with no.

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It was just we didn't. Just kind of a small

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sample size maybe, and that was fine. I don't know.

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I think she had a good run. I did love

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listening to her argue with Charlie all the time. Yeah,

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she just has a great voice for arguing. I did

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enjoy her in it, though. All right, simple enough, Well,

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I'll just jump to one of my complaints then, But

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because this kind of ties in, I think to what

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was saying we're going is she's gorgeous. She is communicative

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and sensitive and emotionally available and all these she seems

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to have all these wonderful qualities. My question is, why

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the hell is she with Charlie Babbitt.

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That is a good question. She's the one that understands

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the whole situation, it seems like, and she just can't

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get it through Charlie's thick skull. And I mean that's

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why she leaves them for a start of the movie.

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Makes sense for sure.

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Yeah, he's singular minded and she has the full perspective

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on what's happening.

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I felt like she was me in a way, just

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constantly yelling and Charlie like, you got a brother, come

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on right, Yeah, not being an asshole to him.

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Kidnapping him and holding him ransom and hostage is not

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the way to go. No, that's a straight up kidnapping. Yeah,

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for sure, doctor was pretty calm about not sending the

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police after ran. Well, that's the thing is, I had

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a big question about that. I understand that it is

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explained halfway through the movie that Raymond Babbitt is at

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Walbrook voluntarily, but still there's formalities like if you're taking

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him out of the facility, you'd have to sign you

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have signed something, some paperwork. You can't just literally walk

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out with him and then not come back. I would

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just surprise. There's no law enforcement involved at all. Nobody's

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coming calling the cops or anything. It just seems a

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little odd to me.

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How can he be there voluntarily if he can't make

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decisions like who would volunteering question two?

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Right?

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Yeah, Like he couldn't go to the doctor and say

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all right, I'm done, I went out. I want my

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own place. He can't do that.

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Yeah, yeah, I was a little confused as to some

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of those logistics in the legality of all that. For sure.

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I wanted to give a quick shout out to the

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DP director of photography, John Seal, shooting this film. I

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think this movie looks great. But it's interesting because I

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guess I wasn't paying attention before because I gave him

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a shout out on our the Hitcher pod what And

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I don't know if I mentioned it on that pod,

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but you know, he was the cinematographer for Witness the

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Hitcher Dead Poet Society the Firm, The English Patient, one

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of the Harry Potter movies, Mad Max, Fury Road Only

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to name a few. John Seal is a stud I

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don't know why I wasn't studying his filmography when we

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did The Hitcher, and I was just like, this guy

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knows how to shoot a movie. But here we have

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another road trip movie that looks gorgeous and just makes

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me want to move back to the Midwest immediately because

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he makes the countryside look so peaceful and serene and

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I just want to go on a road trip. I

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love the way he shot this. Definitely knows how to

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shoot those country landscapes, so giving him a shout out again.

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Definitely knows how to shoot them. Definitely knows how to shit.

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Yeah. And the iconic shots from this movie are so memorable,

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with Raymond and Charlie walking down that drive in the

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middle of the trees at the Wallbrook facility. It's on

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the poster, it's on the VHS bock. It's a wonderful shot.

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Any of those shots of the brothers.

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In the opening when the Ferraris are coming in and

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they reflector oh yeah, and the Ico iico is playing,

457
00:23:55.960 --> 00:23:59.279
It was like, oh, yep, that was a Mendela effect

458
00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:02.000
I thought, for I Go played during the Vegas scene,

459
00:24:02.200 --> 00:24:02.960
not the opening.

460
00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:06.640
Oh there you go. Well that's great because it's a

461
00:24:06.680 --> 00:24:09.319
perfect segue into the next thing I want to talk about,

462
00:24:09.359 --> 00:24:12.279
and that's Hans Zimmer with the soundtrack and the lyrical

463
00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:15.480
music as well, including Icoiico, But let's just talk about that.

464
00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:20.319
Icoico also featured during the opening credit sub mission Impossible

465
00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:23.160
to the John wu film when you have Cruise doing

466
00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:26.759
the rock climbing at the very opening the cold open

467
00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:29.799
another Cruise movie, same song. But yeah, this is when

468
00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:31.880
I start to learn about Hans Zimmer, when I really

469
00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:34.680
get turned on to him. It's a really interesting soundtrack.

470
00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:37.200
I love it. It feels like it little has like

471
00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:39.359
a little bit of an Asian influence, and you can

472
00:24:39.519 --> 00:24:42.559
really hear some commonality with this score in the Black

473
00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:46.680
Rain score that comes shortly after this, which I'm also

474
00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:50.079
a big fan of. But I guess director Barry Levinson

475
00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:54.319
specifically instructed Zimmer to avoid strings in his score, as

476
00:24:54.319 --> 00:24:57.319
he felt it would make the film too sentimental. Stepping

477
00:24:57.359 --> 00:24:59.880
on some trivia already, But dude, I used to listen

478
00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:03.160
this all the time. I cassette Koiico. My one of

479
00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:06.839
my favorite tracks is dry Bones. Man. I love that song.

480
00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:10.640
That's a fun one in all the Bones. So yeah,

481
00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:13.799
I really enjoyed the score and the soundtrack for this. Yeah.

482
00:25:13.839 --> 00:25:15.400
I think I was kind of surprised to see his

483
00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:18.039
name in the credit because I didn't really remember the

484
00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:22.480
music that much. So I'm really sure I paid attention

485
00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:24.599
to it, because yeah, all I remember it was like Oiko,

486
00:25:24.799 --> 00:25:27.480
but not in the right spot of course. And yeah,

487
00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:29.319
I really did enjoy it. I liked it a lot.

488
00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:31.680
Cool cool, Yeah, I was just going to talk about

489
00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:35.519
the I actually thought the writing was outside of these

490
00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:39.279
complaints we may have revealed already, I did like the

491
00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:42.920
fact these characters are so specific. I enjoyed There's so

492
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:47.359
many great lines, some quotable. I mean, it's a quotable film. Clearly.

493
00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:49.240
There's something I caught in the beginning of the film.

494
00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:50.799
I don't know if you caught this as well, but

495
00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:54.599
Charlie in the beginning when he was with the lawyer

496
00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:57.519
and they read the will and trust, and he clearly

497
00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:01.079
is not getting the three million dollars or the money

498
00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:04.480
that he feels he deserves and that it's being given

499
00:26:04.519 --> 00:26:07.839
to a beneficiary. Instead, he learns he's just getting the

500
00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:11.000
buick and he's getting the rose bushes, and he's being

501
00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:14.200
very sarcastic and talking to the lawyer and saying, well,

502
00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:16.319
I definitely got the rose bushes. I definitely got the

503
00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:21.519
rose bushes, which is exactly how Raymond speaks later on,

504
00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:25.240
said I'm definitely not wearing any underwear, you know, Like,

505
00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:28.680
so I hadn't caught that before. I thought that was smart.

506
00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:30.440
I didn't catch it on the first viewing. I think

507
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:33.559
I caught it on the second or third. I literally

508
00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:37.359
replayed this movie almost all day one day, okay, cool,

509
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:40.640
just trying to catch bits and pieces here and there

510
00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:42.960
throughout the day. I would kind of be doing work

511
00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:44.880
around the house and then I would walk in the

512
00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:47.359
living room and catch a scene and really break it down.

513
00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:49.960
And it was one of those times, Yeah, the lawyer's

514
00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:53.880
reading the letter and I chuckled. I'm like, oh, yeah, definitely, yeah,

515
00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:56.799
definitely definitely doing that. Definitely definitely doing that.

516
00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:00.160
Yep. I thought that was great. So I did have

517
00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:03.039
an appreciation for the writing. Obviously it did win the Oscar.

518
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:06.440
But I'm just going to say, kind of in wrapping

519
00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:09.519
up my impressions here. As an adult watching this, I

520
00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:12.240
still love going on the journey with the characters. I

521
00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:15.039
did find Cruz's portrayal of Charlie Babbitt to be even

522
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:19.240
more jarring but more believable. Feels like that he was

523
00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:22.000
living it, and it definitely feels like it's his movie.

524
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:25.240
His arc hits all the dramatic levels, and I feel

525
00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:29.000
well directed by Levinson. This is our third film by him.

526
00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:32.240
Bill Bant, we did Diner and we did Good Morning Vietnam.

527
00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:35.319
Obviously an important director. He's a little hit or missed

528
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:37.440
for me once he gets into the two thousands. But

529
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:40.000
I didn't know if you had any opinion on the direction.

530
00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:43.079
Parry Levin said at one time, if I just saw

531
00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:45.039
his name as a part of the movie, I gotta

532
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:48.759
see this. Yeah, I just saw it. Everything he touched

533
00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:51.799
was gold. Even though I didn't give Good Morning Vietnam

534
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:56.599
the greatest reviews when we discussed it, but everything else

535
00:27:56.640 --> 00:27:59.960
from the eighties, I really enjoyed his work. But yeah,

536
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:02.279
he fell off a cliff. That was tough. He's one

537
00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:04.519
of those directors all of a sudden, just nothing was

538
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:07.079
working for him. Yeah, and I'm one of those few

539
00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:09.279
and I'd love to bring it up anytime I can. Toys.

540
00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:11.720
I love toys, I really do. Okay, it's not a

541
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:16.039
good that third act sucks, but it's one of those movies.

542
00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:18.519
The music and the visuals just really work for me,

543
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:20.519
and I.

544
00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:20.799
Just enjoy it.

545
00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:23.440
And it's just so weird. It's just such a weird movie,

546
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:25.640
and he took a chance with it and I really

547
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:30.000
appreciated that, and it's just so something out of his wheelhouse.

548
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.200
But yeah, I mean, this one, in a sense is

549
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:35.880
pretty straightforward. You know, it's a road trip. You're getting

550
00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:38.400
from point A to point B. I mean for the characters,

551
00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:41.920
for the journey and everything. But you're engaged, and that's

552
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:44.319
what you want. You want to be engaged in the audience,

553
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:46.359
and this is what that movie does. It engages you

554
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:48.440
and you want to see what happens at the end

555
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:50.799
because you don't really know where it's going to go, right, Like,

556
00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:52.599
we know they're trying to get the Los Angeles, But

557
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:56.880
how is Cruz going to solve these problems? Does he

558
00:28:57.000 --> 00:28:59.720
really think he's going to be able to use his

559
00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:03.480
brother there is pawn to get money and what's his

560
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:06.079
brother going through in this whole trip? Here he is

561
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:10.200
every day doing something that's different from the last. What

562
00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:13.359
he's saying he was a Wilbruck from fifteen twenty years

563
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:16.720
Oh right, yeah, yeah, at least yep having to change

564
00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:18.680
his routine and what does that really do to him?

565
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:20.559
Does he even realize what's going on?

566
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:24.119
Yeah? Very interesting there. I mean, Raymond goes through some

567
00:29:24.279 --> 00:29:29.720
very traumatic moments. Yes, extremely brutal for him. So I

568
00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:32.680
don't know what kind of long term effects that would have,

569
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:36.599
but he gets put through it by Charlie and you

570
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:39.240
were talking about, you know, this being a straightforward road

571
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:43.519
trip movie, and Wikipedia calls it a road comedy drama film.

572
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:48.400
I recall watching this as younger and laughing out loud

573
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:50.839
at so many moments and thinking it was very lighthearted

574
00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:54.559
in moments and funny, and that the comedy really was substantial,

575
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:57.079
not so much watching it as an adult. I was

576
00:29:57.119 --> 00:29:59.480
going to ask you that do you feel that this

577
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:01.559
should be even be called a comedy at all? I

578
00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:04.119
feel like it's road trip drama. I think it has

579
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:08.799
levity in moments, but it just didn't feel as comical.

580
00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:12.039
I guess because at the time we didn't really know

581
00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:15.519
that much about autism and what right, we thought so.

582
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.319
I think it was more of the situations how he

583
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:21.200
looked at things, and we just found it funny, like, oh,

584
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:23.480
that's someone looking at something different. But I think now

585
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:25.720
because we know, well, there's still a long way to

586
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:28.559
go when it comes to autism and the spectrum.

587
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:31.759
And all that. But I think it was more just

588
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:35.640
laughing because you were uncomfortable. Absolutely, and I as a kid,

589
00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:40.440
I was just ignorant, so ignorant, and just everybody was naive.

590
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:42.200
And yeah, in a way.

591
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:45.960
This movie helped bring autism to the public. Did I

592
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.319
know anybody with autism before I saw this movie?

593
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:48.519
No?

594
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:51.519
Have I met so many people with autism since. Yes,

595
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:53.640
And I'm sure when that's listened to it too, is

596
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:57.359
know someone that's autistic. It's something we didn't know. We

597
00:30:57.359 --> 00:30:59.400
didn't know back then in the eighties. I think we

598
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:01.960
could all be the spectrum to a certain extent. Who knows,

599
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:05.279
it's possible, still learning, still learning about it. Did you

600
00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:09.720
have anything else regarding impressions today watching rain Man? No,

601
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:11.720
I think that's it. I think we can move into

602
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:14.319
favorite scenes or moments, so let's talk about that. What

603
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:16.359
are some of our favorite scenes of moments from a

604
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:17.880
rain Man take some what he got.

605
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:21.240
I think you mentioned Bill Bant. There's a scene in

606
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:24.160
particular where Tom Cruise just has to pull the buick

607
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:26.400
over and get out and do some yelling, and that's

608
00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:28.640
one of my first favorite scenes. This is where I

609
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:33.559
actually found it funny, his yelling, his exasperation, his frustration

610
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:36.720
with Charlie in the entire situation, because he's just had

611
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.240
it up. I mean, he's gone through ivan, he's trying everything,

612
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:43.519
and it's nothing's been working. And Charlie clearly has a

613
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:46.400
lot of needs, and whether it's the fact that he

614
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:49.519
can't fly, or he can't drive on the freeway because

615
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:52.039
it's too dangerous and he needs to watch Judge Wepmer

616
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:54.920
and People's Court at six pm in Night's Out by eleven,

617
00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:59.200
all these things, it's just making travel very difficult for Charlie.

618
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:02.559
So at this one point we are on the road

619
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:04.880
in the middle of the country, and yet this is

620
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:08.680
the classic line where you have Raymond just look down

621
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:12.400
and say, of course, I'm not wearing any underwear, and

622
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:15.880
it's really funny. It's just funny because I hope I

623
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:18.319
said that right. Raymond's the one saying that, and Charlie's like,

624
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:20.200
what are you talking about? It gave you a fresh

625
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:23.160
parent of my own underwear to put on today. It's like, no,

626
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:25.519
I can't can't wear those. I need to wear boxer shorts.

627
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:28.000
I have my own boxer shorts. They're from Kmart. My

628
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:31.480
name is on them. Those are the only of course

629
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:35.400
Charlie has does not understand. But it's another one of

630
00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:38.240
those famous lines from this when Raymond keeps repeating, no,

631
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:42.039
I'm definitely not wearing any underwear, and finally Charlie pulls

632
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:44.519
the car over. So I love that moment when he

633
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:48.799
gets out, because you just have Raymond who wouldn't let

634
00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:51.759
he can't. He just keeps repeating himself, saying, I have

635
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:53.599
to get go to Kmart. We got a cod to

636
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:56.240
Kmart's in Cincinnati, and he keeps saying the address over again,

637
00:32:56.279 --> 00:32:58.720
but of course Charlie keeps saying, we're not there. We'll

638
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.880
get boxer shorts. It's our boxer shorts wherever you buy

639
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:05.920
them in Cincinnati or wherever. And my favorite thing is

640
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:08.400
you probably know Bill Bant as well. We know this

641
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:11.119
is one of our friends, Marwana Jersey. One of his

642
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:14.759
favorite things is when Tom Cruise gets upset, he goes

643
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:19.000
to a higher register. His voice goes so high. That's

644
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:21.960
when you know he's really mad. But when he yells that,

645
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:24.880
and his voice just keeps going higher and higher wherever

646
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:28.359
you buy them in Cincinnati or wherever, then you just

647
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:33.599
hear Raymond go Kmart. It's just I laughed out loud

648
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:36.599
at that. So I always i'd love that scene, and

649
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:38.720
it made me laugh again watching it today.

650
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:41.119
So, yeah, Charlie can't win even if they pull it

651
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:45.359
up to another kmart. Oh yeah, something with oh yeah, right,

652
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:49.160
that's what he's dealing with. And that scene of frustration

653
00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:53.079
doesn't bother me as much because he does bring into

654
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:55.880
the hole. We shouldn't even be in this car driving.

655
00:33:56.319 --> 00:33:57.799
You should be on a plane. Yeah, you should be

656
00:33:57.799 --> 00:33:59.680
get there. It's more, it's more of the situation. It's

657
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:02.759
not so much Raymond. But yes, Raymond is frustrating him

658
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:05.200
because you can't give him an inch and you can't

659
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:07.599
figure out how to get that inch out of him.

660
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:09.639
I think he does the right thing by just pulling

661
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:12.519
over and just venting. Just vent right, get back in

662
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:16.760
the car and move on. Nothing you can do for

663
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:17.519
a certain place.

664
00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:20.880
With that great shot of them the car driving off,

665
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:24.000
and from behind you see Charlie just throw his underwear

666
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:27.280
up in the air out of the car. Because the

667
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:29.079
great thing is Raymond never put on the pair of

668
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:30.880
Vender where he had it in his jacket pocket the

669
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:35.639
whole time. It's great, I think for us, we say

670
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:36.840
the same.

671
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:40.960
Next favorite scene and that's when we find out why

672
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:44.840
the name of the movie is titled rain Man. Yeah,

673
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:48.119
it's probably one of the first times that Charlie has

674
00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:51.719
the time to actually pay attention to Raymond and try

675
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:56.199
to have some kind of bond with him. They're talking,

676
00:34:56.760 --> 00:34:58.880
I think they're talking. Then it was that Charlie goes

677
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:01.840
to put on the tub and Raymond has the freak out.

678
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:04.360
Of course, it scares the crap out of Charlie and

679
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:07.400
turns the water off. And that's when ray Band says

680
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:10.719
rain Man. And that's when Charlie's like, oh, that's what

681
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:13.039
I used to say because I couldn't say Raymond. And

682
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:14.719
then he asked about the song that I used to

683
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:17.079
sing to him, and then that's when Charlie realizes it

684
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:20.280
is like, oh, wow, I did not necessarily know my brother,

685
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:23.000
but my brother was around at one point and I

686
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:26.599
was the reason why he was sent away for the

687
00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:29.000
wrong reason, because the father thought he was trying to

688
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:31.760
burn Charlie as a baby in the hot water, when actually,

689
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:34.239
in actuality, he was trying to get Charlie out of

690
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:35.519
the tub from getting burned.

691
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:38.599
This scene is loaded. It's a great call. This has

692
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:41.159
to be, especially after what we were just talking about

693
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:45.039
where this movie surprisingly had me feeling a lot more

694
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:48.320
tension in me, Like as I was watching it, I

695
00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:52.320
was getting tense and I found it anxiety inducing because

696
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:57.599
Charlie is just so full of frustration, rage, just always

697
00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:01.039
trying to like he's an angry person. He's an angry,

698
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:05.480
angry young man, and Charlie's not going to change and

699
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:07.920
they're just going to be button heads the entire time.

700
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:11.079
So when this happens in the movie, it's a nice break.

701
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:14.000
It's like a breath of fresher because it gets very quiet,

702
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.159
and I noted in the scene it's very silent. There's

703
00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:19.719
no score in the background, and they're in the bathroom.

704
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:21.440
And I love all the moments you named, and I'm

705
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:26.119
just going to reiterate them. When you have Raymond with

706
00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:29.679
his wallet, I believe Charlie finds the photo he sees

707
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:33.960
a photo of Raymond with him. I thought the photoshop

708
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:36.800
actually looked pretty good in that too, because Raymond is

709
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:41.760
significantly older. Then Charlie puts two and two together. He's like, oh,

710
00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:44.800
you're the rain Man, was it? Because I was misspoke

711
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:49.280
and said you're name wrong? And Raymond keeps saying yeah, yeah,

712
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:51.880
and he sings the Lullaby, which is actually the song

713
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:53.840
I Saw You Standing There, which is a great song.

714
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:56.920
And it's just such a bittersweet moment and it's finally

715
00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:00.760
this connection. But this look of calm and realization that

716
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:03.440
comes over Cruz's face in that moment, I absolutely love.

717
00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:06.000
And yeah, when it turns on that hot water, Wow,

718
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:08.800
I'll never forget it. That scene still bothers me today.

719
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:10.800
It still jolts me, even though I know it's coming.

720
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:14.960
When Hoffman starts screaming hot water, burn baby, hot water

721
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:18.159
burn baby, another quote heard from the film. Then when

722
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:20.840
he calms down and figures out, oh, that's why you

723
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:23.079
were sent away because they thought you were going to

724
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:26.400
hurt me. It's very tender. It's a very tender scene.

725
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:30.480
And this is where the love story really kind of begins,

726
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:34.039
I think for me. And there's a really quiet kind

727
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:37.880
of period on the scene where you hear Raymond saying, Hey,

728
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:41.199
it won't hurt Charlie. I wouldn't hurt Charlie. Wouldn't hurt Charlie,

729
00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:44.760
or something to that effect. I would never hurt Yeah,

730
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:48.639
Charlie Babbitt, Charliebbitt, I wouldn't hurt Charlie Bbbitt. And Charlie

731
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:50.639
is like, what are you saying? And he hears him

732
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:54.079
say that, and it's almost it's almost heartbreaking in the

733
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:57.880
moment because it's all coming together here. It's an important scene.

734
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:01.119
It's necessary at that point in the movie to kind

735
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:04.000
of relieve all that tension and stress your feeling going

736
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:06.199
on this trip with these two trying to get through

737
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:09.440
it all. So it's a wonderful scene. Yeah, well acted

738
00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:12.079
by both of them. They have a great chemistry. I

739
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:15.320
think they work well off of one another. Yeah, I

740
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:19.639
agree with that for sure. And lastly, favorite scenes Vegas.

741
00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:22.679
There's so many things point out with your highlights from

742
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:26.559
Vegas that you'd like from Yeah, well, let's just start

743
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:29.360
with the montage. Let's get all dressed up and go gambling,

744
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:31.639
and when they're getting fitted for the suits and you know,

745
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:34.480
the iconic shot is coming, and it's the shot of

746
00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:38.039
the Babbitt brothers coming down the escalator in their silver suits,

747
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:41.320
dressed to the nines, looking sharp as hell. And they

748
00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:44.079
clean up good and they hit the tables and I

749
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:47.840
you know when they start playing blackjack, and what is it?

750
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:50.199
One is for good, two is for bad? Is it?

751
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:52.760
Do I have it backwards? They have their communication as

752
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:55.000
far as counting cards, and they're going to make a

753
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:57.480
lot of money doing so. But there's one little moment

754
00:38:57.519 --> 00:38:59.360
here where they start playing cards and you see obviously

755
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:01.920
they're winning and winning and winning, and then the crowd

756
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:04.199
gathers around the table and everybody's cheering for them, and

757
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:07.239
it's awesome. We always love this, right Bill bandon any

758
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:10.559
gambling movie, when they're on a hot streak and they're winning,

759
00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:13.400
that people gather on the table. It's like if it's

760
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:17.639
a craps table, blackchipe, dat doesn't matter. But they wracking

761
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:21.639
it up and the dealer at one point says, you're

762
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:24.400
doing well, I'm happy for you. And it's such a

763
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:27.599
dry delivery. I laugh out loud every time he says that,

764
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:31.199
because everybody's so heightened and excited. And then you're doing well.

765
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:34.000
I'm happy for you. It's just so quiet. I'm going

766
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:36.840
to get fired. Tip me well before you leave, right

767
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:40.679
the house is losing its ass right now. Yeah, so

768
00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:44.480
that's the first first part is of course, including that

769
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:46.719
shot of them ConA on the escalator. I love, I

770
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:48.239
love that excitement. Yeah.

771
00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:51.880
I think my two highlights are when Raymond gets up

772
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:55.199
from the table for the wheel, and of course Charlie's

773
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:57.360
upset because they're in a hot streak. But then when

774
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:01.519
Raymond starts saying, yeah, twenty, definitely bet on twenty, and

775
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:04.360
Charlie thinks, oh, he can somehow read the wheel too,

776
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:07.199
and puts down three thousand dollars and you even think

777
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:08.559
as an audience matter of the first time, it's like,

778
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:10.519
oh my god, he's gonna hit on the wheel, and

779
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:13.199
right the twenty passes and it hits I think one

780
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:17.519
or whatever, and he's like, oh, oh, I find that funny.

781
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:21.000
But I think at that point you just believe almost

782
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:24.880
Raymond has magic powers that he can just beat Vegas.

783
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:29.239
And then my second favorite moment from that is Raymond

784
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:31.519
having the dance with Susanna and the elevator. I love

785
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:35.559
that scene, very tender moment because Susan always just kneels

786
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:38.440
for him, and the fact that she gives him that

787
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:40.199
dance that he really thought he was going to get

788
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:42.719
with the call girl Iris.

789
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:47.679
Yeah, Iris, you have to meet Iris ten o'clock. Ten o'clock. Yeah,

790
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:50.000
couldn't agree more, my friend. I'm going to take it

791
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.800
a step back and go to the dancing sequence between

792
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:55.679
ray and Charlie. It's a beautiful thing. Ray gets the

793
00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:58.400
big fancy Sweet. Well, Charlie treats him to the big

794
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:01.320
fancy sweet, puts the bed by the way, and Raymond

795
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:03.239
wants to learn how to dance because he's going to

796
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:06.159
have this hot date with the prostitute Iris at ten

797
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:10.679
and they put on the classic song at Last Atta James,

798
00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:15.360
and Charlie teaches Raymond how to dance. It's very simple.

799
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.760
It's a beautiful love scene between brothers which ends in

800
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.599
a very jarring moment because Charlie just wants to give

801
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:25.719
him a hug and Raymond is just not used to that.

802
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:28.000
It's interesting when you brought up. When they're down at

803
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:30.480
the tables and such, and they gambling and they go

804
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:33.800
over to the wheel. It starts with, of course Raymond

805
00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:35.800
being distracted. He sees the wheel. But we as an

806
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:38.519
audience know this. We're learning along the way. We know

807
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:40.599
he's autistic, and we know he's a savant, and we

808
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:42.639
know that there are certain things that are going to

809
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:45.239
catch his eye most likely. The frustrating thing is it

810
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:48.079
seems like Charlie's not learning at all. So then they

811
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:51.079
go over to the wheel and they lose three thousand

812
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:54.960
dollars And I hate Charlie so much in this moment

813
00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:58.159
because he gets really pissed at Raymond for, you know,

814
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:01.199
dropping three grand on that wheel, and I'm like, dude,

815
00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:04.199
he just won you like eighty six thousand dollars. He's

816
00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:06.000
being really selfish, but it seems as though he just

817
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:07.880
hasn't learned anything as to why he even went to

818
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:10.239
the wheel in the first place. He should be understanding

819
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:14.199
of that anyway. The dance sequence in the elevator between

820
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:18.639
Susanne and Raymond is beautiful, and then it ends with

821
00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:22.559
them allowing Raymond to drive the buick around the fountain

822
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.360
and circles and run drive it up on the curb.

823
00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:27.800
That was fun. Yeah.

824
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:30.679
I have the note though with the hug scene, Charlie

825
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:34.559
came in too fast. That was the problems. Yeah, he

826
00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:36.880
was giving him that bro hug, that tough like he

827
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:39.559
just goes in hard. Yeah, I agree, He's just slowed

828
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:41.440
down a little bit on that one. It's like, no,

829
00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:42.840
wonder why I freaked out. I think I would have

830
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:44.760
freaked out someone trying to hug me that fast. And

831
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:46.800
that's what I'm saying. He doesn't seem to learn, Like

832
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:49.840
I was thinking to myself, Oh, well, okay, you went

833
00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:50.440
in too hard.

834
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:54.079
You made a mistake. Raymond freaked out then slowed down,

835
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:55.719
be like, hey man, can I give you a hug.

836
00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:57.360
I'm just going to bring you in softly and give

837
00:42:57.400 --> 00:42:59.000
you a hug and be tender, and that would have

838
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:01.199
been nice. But he just kind of walks away going

839
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:06.800
feeling dejected, right of all, like Charlie's feeling dejected, I know.

840
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:09.159
Treating like dirt for five days straight.

841
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:17.760
No. That entire Vegas portion of the film, though, is great. Yeah,

842
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:20.239
all right. Trying to move on to Swiss Cheese and

843
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:22.719
complaint department, and why do we call it Swiss cheese?

844
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:26.440
Because although this movie is delicious, it does have toothpick.

845
00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:28.320
Holes, yes, and it doesn't have those toothpick holes. We

846
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:31.199
just file complaint with the complaint department. So, Jason, what

847
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:33.079
do you have for Swiss cheese or complaints?

848
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:36.239
I think we've covered most of mine. We talked about

849
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:40.039
the kidnapping. That's pretty tough. You're taking a patient out

850
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:43.320
of a mental facility, voluntary or not, there would be

851
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:46.920
somebody would be called in. You have to believe Tom

852
00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:50.960
Cruise smoking in this movie or not smoking. I think

853
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:53.559
we see him take one puff, maybe two puffs off

854
00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:55.719
a cigarette throughout this. I'm not sure why they even

855
00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:58.360
had him smoking. It's just kind of weird seeing him

856
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:01.440
smoke or not smoke. The first scene you see him

857
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:03.800
with a lit cigarette hanging in an ashtray. He never

858
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:06.519
takes a pop off it. It's literally just smoking in

859
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:10.559
his face and Raymond's. So those are just a couple

860
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:12.960
of things. What do you have for Swiss cheese and

861
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:13.880
or complaints?

862
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:16.719
I have two things. The first thing is okay, So

863
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:20.079
we find out that Charlie inherits the car and the

864
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:23.280
rose bushes and he needs money correct sell the car.

865
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:28.800
There's some money for you, obviously. Obviously day I didn't

866
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:29.480
even think of it.

867
00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:32.599
Originally wasn't taking it to Las Vegas because he was

868
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:34.280
gonna fly. So what was he gonna do with the

869
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:34.800
car anyway.

870
00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:36.880
I don't think you get anything for the roses, but

871
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:39.119
I'm sure you can get something for the car to

872
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:40.920
kind of get you over for a little bit.

873
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:43.480
I don't know how much that's great, but I never

874
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:46.280
even never even crossed my mind. It's a great call.

875
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:48.559
The second thing this really weird at me out.

876
00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:49.480
I don't know why.

877
00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:53.079
So the scene when they're on the highway and Raymond

878
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:55.880
freaks out, so they decide, Okay, you're going to walk

879
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:57.679
in front of the car and we're gonna get off

880
00:44:57.679 --> 00:44:59.079
the ramp and then we'll take.

881
00:44:58.880 --> 00:44:59.679
The side roads.

882
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:02.719
So there's an overhead shot of them coming off the

883
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:06.199
off ramp with Raymond in the front, and I swear,

884
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:10.360
the way the lines are drawn that car should drive

885
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:12.840
head on into oncoming traffic.

886
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.559
Gets me every time. Okay, you saw it too, hilarious.

887
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:17.840
It's hilarious that you point that up. It's one of

888
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:21.159
those weird nitpicky things that bothers me every time I

889
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:24.519
see the movie. The way those street lines are painted

890
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:27.719
on there, it's as if it's a merging lane not

891
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:32.519
going into its own lane. Did they shoot reverse because

892
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:35.159
they're really supposed to be going onto the ramp, and

893
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:37.760
just for the film, they just shot it backwards, so

894
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:40.559
they're coming off the ramp because the way the line's drawn,

895
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:43.039
it's drawn to go into that car that's coming the

896
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:46.920
other way. Right. Yeah, it's making me edgy. Okay, I'm

897
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:48.760
glad we saw it too. That's amazing. I'm glad we

898
00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:51.079
both picked up on that. That's funny. Yeah. I get

899
00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:53.079
anxious every time I see that. I'm like, are they

900
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:55.800
going into oncoming traffic? What's happening? I was sick in

901
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:56.960
the same thing. I was wondering.

902
00:45:56.960 --> 00:45:58.519
I was like, did he do that just to get

903
00:45:58.519 --> 00:45:59.079
off the road?

904
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:02.559
Such a weird little thing. Okay, I'm glad we bossed

905
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:06.400
all that time. Move on to Hey, it's that actor?

906
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:07.840
All right?

907
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:10.159
So in this segment we spotlight a character actor you

908
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:12.519
have seen in many other films, an actor in making

909
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:14.880
their big screen debut, or an actor that makes an

910
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:18.239
uncredited cameo. It's Hey, it's that actor. Who do we

911
00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:19.239
choose this week?

912
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:22.039
This week we chose for our Hey, it's that actor

913
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:27.880
Beth Grant, who plays mother at Farmhouse. Beth is an

914
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:31.800
American character actress from Alabama. Her trademarks are her southern accent.

915
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:34.519
She almost always plays someone who is arrogant, conservative, a

916
00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:38.639
stickler to rules, or even downright evil. Her eighties is

917
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:41.559
very brief. She didn't really start working regularly until the

918
00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:43.920
mid to late eighties. She did some single episodes of TV,

919
00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:46.440
then rain Man here in eighty eight, and that's all

920
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:50.360
she wrote until she starts working more prolifically in the nineties.

921
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:53.800
She does flat Liners in nineteen ninety, Child's Play two,

922
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:56.679
also in ninety the Dark Half in ninety three, seventeen

923
00:46:56.719 --> 00:46:59.880
episodes of the show Delta with Delta, Birk City Slickers too,

924
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:02.760
the Legend of Curly's Gold in ninety four. Then the

925
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:07.239
movie that I recognize her from immediately would be Speed

926
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.800
in nineteen ninety four. She portrays Helen. She's the woman

927
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:13.079
that jumps the gun, tries to get off the bus

928
00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:16.639
too soon, steps down and it explodes and she's dragged

929
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:20.519
underneath the bus. And that's brutal. That's an awful scene.

930
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:24.159
But every time that comes up in that movie, I'm like, lady, stop, dude,

931
00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:27.039
what are you doing. Don't get off? Then we know

932
00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:30.280
what happens. Into the two thousands. Other notables she has

933
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:33.719
our Donnie Darko, Pearl Harbor, Rockstar, The Rookie, ten episodes

934
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:36.239
of the show Jericho. She's the voice of Bonnie and Rango.

935
00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:39.239
She does seventy nine episodes of The Mini Project as Beverly.

936
00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:42.360
She was in Goliath with a Billy Bob, eighteen episodes

937
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:45.760
of Dollface A Little Trivia. She's appeared in four films

938
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:49.199
that have been nominated for the Best Picture Oscar, We

939
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:51.719
Know This rain Man obviously, Little Miss Sunshine in two

940
00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:54.320
thousand and six, No Country for Old Men in two

941
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:57.360
thousand and seven, and The Artist in twenty eleven. With

942
00:47:57.400 --> 00:47:59.880
the exception of Little Miss Sunshine, all of those films

943
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:03.239
in that category. This is kind of fun because she

944
00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:05.760
can portray her looks a little bit older. She's only

945
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:07.920
four and a half years older than Dennis Quaid, who

946
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:10.639
plays her son in The Rookie, and then later on

947
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:13.239
she's only nine years older than Kevin Bacon playing his

948
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:18.320
mother in the twenty twenty five show The Bondsman. Wow. Yeah,

949
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:21.159
Beth Grant, she was definitely one of those I know,

950
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:23.480
I've seen her in something else and I couldn't think

951
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:25.559
of it, and I'm like, all right, Jason Raddley's off

952
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:27.719
let's see what it is, and yeah, it was speed

953
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:29.880
and let him miss Sunshine. I do remember in that

954
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:31.039
one too. There you go.

955
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:33.920
Okay, time to move on to facts and trivia. What

956
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:37.000
are some facts and trivia we have about Rainman.

957
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:40.039
For in flight viewing? Several airlines deleted the sequence in

958
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:44.679
which Raymond Babbitts reels off statistics on airline accidents, except Quantis.

959
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:48.079
They even promoted one of the movie's writers to first

960
00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:51.639
class once he traveled on their airline. What Raymond babbitt

961
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:54.679
says about Quantus was and still is true from nineteen

962
00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:57.880
twenty one to twenty twenty five. Quantis has never lost

963
00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:01.519
any jet airliners, and there is a distinction there by

964
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:05.119
the way. The distinction is jet airliners. Quantus did lose

965
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:10.639
some propeller planes earlier in their histories, but specifically jet airliners,

966
00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:11.760
they have never lost any.

967
00:49:11.920 --> 00:49:14.280
All right, only because you mentioned this character earlier that

968
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:17.280
I have this fun fact about him. So the blackjack

969
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:21.599
dealer at Caesar's Palace is named Nick Mizzola, and he

970
00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:25.599
was also the war dealer in the movie Vegas Vacation,

971
00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:29.079
as well as a dealer in the movie Casino. In

972
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:32.119
real life, Nick was a blackjack dealer at Caesar's Palace

973
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:33.719
in the seventies and eighties.

974
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:38.639
I'm happy for you. Dustin Hoffman spent a lot of

975
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:42.840
time with savant Kim Peak, the inspiration for the character

976
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:46.880
of Raymond Rainman. Writer Barry Morrow first met Peak in

977
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:49.519
nineteen eighty six, and, on winning an Oscar for the

978
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:52.280
screenplay for this movie in nineteen eighty nine, gave his

979
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:56.880
Oscar trophy to Kim Peak. Hoffman made Kim's father the

980
00:49:56.960 --> 00:50:00.719
main caregiver, a promise that he would share Kim with

981
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:03.679
the world. For nearly twenty years until his death, Kim

982
00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:06.679
Peek went all over the world, impressing people with his

983
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:11.519
incredible memory and ability to recall minute details from centuries

984
00:50:11.639 --> 00:50:12.360
of history.

985
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:16.440
The Amarillo, Texas motel scene was actually filmed at the

986
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:20.559
Big Eight Motel in al Reno, Oklahoma. The motel maintained

987
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:23.639
the sign used in the film that read Amarillo's Finest

988
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:27.360
before the motel closed down. Guests sometimes requested to stay

989
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:30.159
in the same room where Raymond and Charlie stayed, Room

990
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:33.599
one point seventeen. The motel has since been demolished.

991
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:37.719
Hmmm, this is a fun one. I'll bring up last,

992
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:40.360
but not least just for the listeners that are familiar

993
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:42.960
to this film. When I think they're I don't know

994
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.360
what town they're in, but when they're driving cross country,

995
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:48.280
Charlie brings Raymond to a doctor really trying to figure

996
00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:50.960
out what's going on with his autism. And there's an

997
00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:53.920
old man that just keeps talking in the waiting room,

998
00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:58.079
and I have this too. It's so great. The elderly

999
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:00.039
man in the waiting room who talks on and on

1000
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:04.199
about the Pony Express is Byron P. Kavnar, an eighty

1001
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:06.719
nine year old local who was in the waiting room

1002
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:09.920
when the crew arrived to film there. He got to

1003
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:13.000
talking on his favorite subject, the Pony Express, and director

1004
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:15.480
Barry Levinson got such a kick out of it that

1005
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:19.079
he let Kavnar keep on talking as the cameras rolled.

1006
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:24.639
All his dialogue was spontaneous and not scripted. I love that. Yeah.

1007
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:26.159
It was like I said, I was watching this all

1008
00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:28.199
day long, and I walked in on this and I

1009
00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:30.320
just sat down and just listened to him. I didn't

1010
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:32.000
pay attention to anything. I'm like, what is this guy

1011
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:35.440
talking about? Why is he here? What the hell is

1012
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:36.920
going on? It was cracking me up.

1013
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:39.719
So I was so happy to find that information because like, oh,

1014
00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:40.679
I feel so much better.

1015
00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:43.599
It's fantastic. If you know it, you know it. He

1016
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:47.719
doesn't stop talking. He talks over Dustin Hoffman. He just

1017
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:50.280
keeps telling the story, and I'm engrossed by it. Like

1018
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:52.360
if I were there, I'd probably just be let him talk.

1019
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:54.400
And I'm just like he seemed to be in the

1020
00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:56.639
know about the Pony Express. Let's put it that way.

1021
00:51:57.039 --> 00:51:59.639
Last thing, this could have been a handsoen actor, but

1022
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:04.400
so Bonnie Hunt plays a waitress who dropped the toothpicks

1023
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:07.880
in two forty six. But I found this nugget funny.

1024
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:11.360
So she ends up co starring with Tom Cruise a

1025
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:15.559
decade later, and Jerry maguire and Cruise forgot that they

1026
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:17.159
had worked on Rainman together.

1027
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:21.360
Oh, he had to have been a little embarrassed by that.

1028
00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:24.679
I'm sure this being her, it's her debut. If I'm

1029
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:27.679
not masedy, Yeah, I believe. So I do like Bonnie Hunt,

1030
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:28.400
I do too.

1031
00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:32.599
It was funny because she's so recognizable, but I blanked.

1032
00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:35.000
I can't think of anything else that she was in,

1033
00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:37.519
and then I was like, holy crap. Jerry McGuire Jesus.

1034
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:40.840
Maybe maybe that makes sense why Tom Cruise couldn't remember either.

1035
00:52:41.039 --> 00:52:43.719
Yeah, I want to say she had a sitcom or

1036
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:45.480
a show. I don't know. Yeah, I thought she had

1037
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:47.639
a last TV show so long, but she got a

1038
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:49.960
show at some point. That's what I thought, all right.

1039
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:53.440
Moving on to box office, Rainman hit theaters on December sixteenth,

1040
00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:56.320
nineteen eighty eight, opening wide in twelve hundred and forty

1041
00:52:56.360 --> 00:52:59.000
eight locations with a budget of twenty five million. The

1042
00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:02.920
movie was a box office success, pulling in one hundred

1043
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:05.599
and seventy two point eight million across North America and

1044
00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:09.960
another two hundred and thirty nine point nine million internationally.

1045
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:12.760
It opened at number two at the box office, but

1046
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:16.039
climbed to number one in its third week, earning even

1047
00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:18.920
more than it did on its debut. It held the

1048
00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:21.719
top spot for four additional weeks and remained in the

1049
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:25.719
top ten for another eight weeks. In its sixteenth week

1050
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:29.599
of release, Rainman returned to the number one spot and

1051
00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:32.599
stayed in the top ten for eight more weeks after that.

1052
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:34.960
By the end of its run, it became the highest

1053
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:38.920
grossing movie of nineteen eighty eight. Wow, that movie was huge.

1054
00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:43.000
So moving on to reviews. When growing up in the eighties,

1055
00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:45.000
we would watch at the Movies with Gene Siskel and

1056
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:47.239
Roger Ebert to hear their reviews and watch clips of

1057
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:51.280
upcoming movies. Their review of Rainman was unanimous two big

1058
00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:54.679
thumbs up. They were especially impressed by Hoffman's betrayal of

1059
00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:58.840
Raymond and autistic savant. Ebert called it deeply convincing without

1060
00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:02.719
feeling artificial or showy. They also noted that Cruz delivered

1061
00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:06.760
one of his more mature performances, showing real character development.

1062
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:10.280
Rotten Tomatoes gives it a Tomatometer score of eighty eight percent,

1063
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:13.679
with a popcorn Meter score of ninety percent. It also

1064
00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:15.760
has an IMDb rating of.

1065
00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:18.639
Eight just eight solid.

1066
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:22.800
Yes, not very few IMDb movies have a solid number,

1067
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:24.360
so say a point something.

1068
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:27.320
I was just surprised to see eight. Yeah, that's great,

1069
00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:27.840
all right.

1070
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:30.280
So this takes us to additional thoughts and questions. What

1071
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:33.119
are some additional thoughts and questions you have about rain Man?

1072
00:54:33.519 --> 00:54:36.400
Well, I covered some of my questions already earlier, so

1073
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:40.320
I'm just going to go into some thoughts. I wanted

1074
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:44.039
to look up autism and just get the textbook definition

1075
00:54:44.199 --> 00:54:47.000
and just share a little bit with our listeners if

1076
00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:52.119
you don't already know autism or autism spectrum of disorder

1077
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:57.199
ASD is a neuro developmental condition affecting how people perceive

1078
00:54:57.280 --> 00:55:00.360
the world and interact with others. It involves different and

1079
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:04.239
social communication, behavior, and sensory processing, with a wide range

1080
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:07.679
of strengths and support needs. Is not a disease, but

1081
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:12.679
rather a lifelong form of neuro divergence. Autism is a spectrum,

1082
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:15.880
meaning it looks different for everyone, from social communication to

1083
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:20.119
behavioral pattern, sensory processing, and developmental differences. I look this

1084
00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:23.679
up to educate myself. Mainly, I know a little bit

1085
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:26.039
about it. I just wanted to shine a little more

1086
00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:28.880
light on it for myself and maybe others that don't

1087
00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:33.199
understand what it is specifically, so I wanted to just

1088
00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:39.079
lay that out there. Also in regards to the film itself,

1089
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:41.639
this kind of ties in Rainman is known in particular

1090
00:55:41.719 --> 00:55:43.880
for its portrayal of a man with both autism and

1091
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:47.760
savant skills, leading much of its viewing audience to incorrectly

1092
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:51.760
assume the intellectual capabilities of autistic people at large. Characters

1093
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:55.639
like Raymond, whose characterization has been criticized for adhering to

1094
00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:59.400
stereotypes are portrayed as having other worldly and intellectual abilities

1095
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:03.920
that rather than or having that intellectual ability that, rather

1096
00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:06.559
than disable them from a living a normal life, instead

1097
00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:10.159
assists them in a nearly magical way. So there's that

1098
00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:13.039
take on that. And then conversely, rain Man has also

1099
00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:16.280
been seen as dispelling a number of other misconceptions about

1100
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:20.199
autism and improving public awareness of the failure of many

1101
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:23.840
agencies to accommodate autistic people and make use of the

1102
00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:28.360
abilities they do have, regardless of whether they have savant

1103
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:31.360
skills or not. So you can look at this a

1104
00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:35.400
couple different ways. I found that interesting, so thanks for listening.

1105
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:36.800
I think of it as a positive.

1106
00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:39.639
It brought to light what autism was, and yes it

1107
00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:42.280
was as the rare case of being the savant, but

1108
00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:45.920
nobody knew what this was or plenty of people suffering

1109
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:48.599
it and not knowing what they had. So I appreciate

1110
00:56:48.599 --> 00:56:49.559
that what it brought to light.

1111
00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:52.320
And it's interesting because you can look at it that

1112
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:55.880
there are people suffering from it. But I've been enlightened

1113
00:56:55.880 --> 00:56:58.639
a little bit by listening to and I am going

1114
00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:02.000
to give this a very strong shout out. The Telepathy

1115
00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:05.440
Tapes podcast, which was created and hosted by Kai Dickens,

1116
00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:11.039
which deals with a mainly nonverbal, non speaking autistic children

1117
00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:15.119
that have telepathy. So when you talk about other worldly

1118
00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:18.880
and magical capabilities, this is my opinion, and my opinion

1119
00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:21.840
only right now that I am expressing, But I've listened

1120
00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:23.800
to these tapes and i am a believer. I'm a

1121
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:26.280
big fan of this podcast, and if you would like

1122
00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:28.639
to know more, you can listen on your own. There's

1123
00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:31.679
also a show called Love on the Spectrum. I believe

1124
00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:35.199
that's on Netflix and now you can have and you

1125
00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:37.960
probably would have very specific opinions on this as to

1126
00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:41.679
whether or not the podcast and or show are exploitative

1127
00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:46.079
or are we, especially with the show, are we laughing

1128
00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:48.639
at are we making fun of? Are we laughing with them?

1129
00:57:48.719 --> 00:57:52.000
Are we learning more? You'll have your opinions, but it

1130
00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:56.039
brings awareness regardless. So I just wanted to give both

1131
00:57:56.079 --> 00:57:58.800
of those pieces of media some attention.

1132
00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:03.400
Jason questions. So I'm totally totally shifting gears here.

1133
00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:06.760
No, yeah, sorry, I totally boguarded the pod there. Sorry.

1134
00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:06.920
Man.

1135
00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:14.119
Were you a fan of the People's Court? Absolutely? Man,

1136
00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:16.800
I watched it when I was a kid. Are you kidding? Yeah?

1137
00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:19.719
That that theme is great? Yeah? Did you watch it

1138
00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:20.039
a lot?

1139
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:22.119
I think I caught it. It seemed like every time I

1140
00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:25.400
was around my grandparents that seemed to be on. There

1141
00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:27.199
might have been a summer where I would watch it

1142
00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:29.079
and then go out back out to play.

1143
00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:31.519
So it goes on at like seven o'clock. Yeah, I

1144
00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:34.840
mean this is the predecessor to Judge Judy, which, of

1145
00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:38.960
course you know yours truly was on. Yeah.

1146
00:58:39.039 --> 00:58:40.679
I'd looked online to see if I could find an

1147
00:58:40.679 --> 00:58:43.920
old episode and they had recent episodes, So it's still on.

1148
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:45.760
The People's Court is still going.

1149
00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:48.199
Yeah, it's a female judge, and I think it has

1150
00:58:48.280 --> 00:58:52.159
some ties to the GMZ host. I can't think of

1151
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:55.920
his name, Harry Levin. Yes, yeah, he's part of it too.

1152
00:58:56.159 --> 00:58:57.960
There you go. Here's a question.

1153
00:58:58.159 --> 00:59:01.039
So Spielberg was at one point point attached to this movie.

1154
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:03.159
How much DIVI different do you think the movie would

1155
00:59:03.159 --> 00:59:07.159
have been if he had directed it? Wow, it's hard

1156
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:09.239
to answer, but that intrigues me.

1157
00:59:09.599 --> 00:59:11.960
At this time in nineteen eighty eight, it would have

1158
00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:17.519
been a lot more bittersweet. I think the journey would

1159
00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:19.639
have had different level. I think just like we were

1160
00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:22.679
talking about. I believe Charlie babbittom Cruz's character would have

1161
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:27.039
softened earlier and or had probably a couple more levels

1162
00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:32.199
in adjusting and learning and adapting and being more open

1163
00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:35.519
to maybe adapting or I'm not sure, but it would

1164
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:41.559
have had that kind of saccherin bittersweetness, probably not tenfold,

1165
00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:44.480
but at least maybe fivefold than it is in its

1166
00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:46.960
current form, because that's Spielberg, and that's what I love

1167
00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:50.360
about Spielberg films. So it would have been I'll know,

1168
00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:51.960
I'm going to admit this to the audience right now.

1169
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:53.440
I cry at the end of this movie. I do

1170
00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:57.239
every time, and if Spielberg had directed it, I'd be

1171
00:59:57.280 --> 00:59:59.159
taken a bath in my tears most likely.

1172
00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:01.880
I think that's so I would say Spielberg had directed this,

1173
01:00:02.079 --> 01:00:03.440
I'd been crying at the end.

1174
01:00:03.760 --> 01:00:06.639
Yeah. Yeah, now here's I'm going to throw it right

1175
01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:10.079
back at you. Martin Brest also was signed on if

1176
01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:13.000
I'm not mistaken to direct this, he but then I

1177
01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:15.239
forget why he got pulled off or he decided to

1178
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:17.840
going to a different direction, But obviously a different would

1179
01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:21.480
be a different take too. Yeah. Wow, because if you

1180
01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:25.559
think another midnight classic road trip duo movie. Right, Yeah,

1181
01:00:25.599 --> 01:00:28.039
I wonder if that's why he turned it down. It's like,

1182
01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:29.960
I've already kind of done this the road trip thing.

1183
01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:32.920
I don't need to do another one. It would be interesting,

1184
01:00:33.119 --> 01:00:34.599
it is kind of yeah, in a way, it would

1185
01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:38.320
be in his wheels a big what if. Yep.

1186
01:00:39.039 --> 01:00:41.400
Right, here's a confession. This is probably one of my

1187
01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:44.039
favorite scenes of this movie, just because I'm like, oh

1188
01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:46.719
my god, this is so me. When Cruise finds out

1189
01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:48.880
he's basically bankrupt and he goes to the mill of

1190
01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:52.440
the field and just screams, son of my badge. I

1191
01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:54.960
swear that is me every time I come home at

1192
01:00:55.039 --> 01:00:57.800
night and try to find parking in my neighborhood. I

1193
01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:00.519
don't know how many times I'm in my car and

1194
01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:03.280
I just do exactly what Tom Cruise did. When I

1195
01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:05.239
saw that, I just started laughing. I'm like, holy shit,

1196
01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:07.480
that's me. It's because a long day, all I want

1197
01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:09.199
is a parking spot, and I'm just like, son of

1198
01:01:09.239 --> 01:01:09.639
a bitch.

1199
01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:17.519
We've all been there. It's so great. Hashtag La living Man. Yeah,

1200
01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:20.719
I've been much much more vulgar than that, But I

1201
01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:24.960
feel the frustration that's that screaming at the because I'm

1202
01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:27.320
sure I go to that high register too every once.

1203
01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:30.719
First it's does anybody in my neighborhood fucking work?

1204
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:33.679
And then it's son of a bitch? That's the Isnt

1205
01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:37.039
that Fascinating's like, what's going on? There can't be that

1206
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:40.159
many cars? Why are Or you go to any massive

1207
01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:42.480
parking lot and it's like seven in the morning and

1208
01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:45.960
it's full. This can't It's not even possible. How could

1209
01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:47.199
there be so many people here?

1210
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:51.039
Yeah, that made me feel good to hear him just

1211
01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:52.960
scream out in the middle of nowhere. I'm like, oh, yeah,

1212
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:55.280
that'd me. I wish I'd get on my car sometimes.

1213
01:01:54.880 --> 01:01:58.840
And just be like, you should do that because I

1214
01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:02.159
think it. The acoustics are perfect in the parking garage

1215
01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:05.159
for that. Yes, just to hear the echo, that would

1216
01:02:05.159 --> 01:02:08.400
be great. Man. I have one personal attachment to this

1217
01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:13.320
film being that in this fiction we have Raymond Babbitt.

1218
01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:16.920
When he gets nervous, he keeps reciting the classic comedic

1219
01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:19.960
sketch who's on first? Yes, And he talks about how

1220
01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:23.800
they talk about how he was shown that by their father,

1221
01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:26.039
by his dad showed it to him when he was young. Well,

1222
01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:28.480
same here. My dad showed it to me when I

1223
01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:30.840
was young, and it's always been one of my favorites. And

1224
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:32.280
I just wanted to give a shout out and say,

1225
01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:35.400
if you have not, for any reason in your lifetime

1226
01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:40.119
watched the Abbott and Costello classic routine. Who's on first?

1227
01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:43.480
Go look it up on YouTube. Many different versions of it.

1228
01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:45.760
I think there's something like it feels like there's an

1229
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:49.079
abridged version and unabridged version, but they're doing it in

1230
01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:53.519
different locations or stages and costumes and such. But it's fantastic.

1231
01:02:53.559 --> 01:02:56.199
It's one of the all time greats. So look it

1232
01:02:56.280 --> 01:02:59.079
up on YouTube as soon as you can watch it again.

1233
01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:02.719
I've seen someone do first time watch and then analyze.

1234
01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:05.800
It was kind of funny, Oh yeah, yeah, because usually

1235
01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:10.119
it's always people doing songs or comedians and I was like, Oh,

1236
01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:12.079
someone's actually doing the Abbott Castello sketch.

1237
01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:12.719
It's hilarious.

1238
01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:14.519
So how to watch it just to see what their

1239
01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:15.199
reaction was?

1240
01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:17.719
It was positive?

1241
01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:21.079
Good should be I guess it's time for a rating.

1242
01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:21.480
Huh.

1243
01:03:21.599 --> 01:03:23.480
Let's do it all right on a scale of one

1244
01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:24.800
to five toothpicks.

1245
01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:28.199
What do you give rain Man? I'm giving it four

1246
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:33.960
strong toothpicks that don't splinter. I'll admit I do have

1247
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:37.119
a nostalgic attachment to it. There's just for me, there's

1248
01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:41.719
some overwhelming positives personally. You have the Oscar winning performance

1249
01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:45.719
by Hoffman. I think this is Tom Cruise's best acting performance.

1250
01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:48.880
I think he was snubbed for a Best Supporting Actor

1251
01:03:48.920 --> 01:03:53.000
nod at least a nomination. I was looking back at

1252
01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:57.000
the competition which was stiff here, but he was up

1253
01:03:57.079 --> 01:04:00.760
against Kevin klein Is the winner. Talked about a fish

1254
01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:03.599
called Wanda and that was a strange one. Yeah, Alec

1255
01:04:03.639 --> 01:04:07.079
Guinness was nominated. You have Martin Landau River Phoenix for

1256
01:04:07.679 --> 01:04:11.199
Running on Empty and Dean Stockwell, so, I don't know,

1257
01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:13.559
maybe instead of I don't know, I think we could

1258
01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:19.599
have slid Tom in there somewhere to vote for him. Well.

1259
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:23.000
I still really appreciated him in this film, and I

1260
01:04:23.119 --> 01:04:26.360
love the score by Hans so classic road trip film,

1261
01:04:26.519 --> 01:04:29.400
really well shot. It's a beautiful film and a tear

1262
01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:31.679
jerker in the end. For me, I connect to it.

1263
01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:34.920
I love when finally we have the softer moments in

1264
01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:37.920
that middle scene at the Big Eights Motel, when we

1265
01:04:38.199 --> 01:04:42.599
have the reveal of Raymond versus rain Man and some

1266
01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:46.800
information that I just love seeing Cruise's reaction in those moments,

1267
01:04:46.840 --> 01:04:49.519
and then the entire Vegas sequence. These are just really

1268
01:04:49.519 --> 01:04:52.559
really memorable, iconic scenes for me. So I think it's

1269
01:04:52.559 --> 01:04:55.119
worthy of all the oscars I give it for toothpicks.

1270
01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:58.239
Wow, maeah, I'm kind of stuck right now. I have

1271
01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:03.559
three and a half toothpicks. Sure, but man Hoffman's performance alone, I.

1272
01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:05.239
Know now that you say that, I feel like maybe

1273
01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:07.760
we haven't talked about Hoffman enough and just how good

1274
01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:10.480
he is, right, you know, we could break down each

1275
01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:13.920
scene and just all the little details like the ticks

1276
01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:17.719
and the mannerisms and the physicality as I mentioned earlier. Yeah,

1277
01:05:17.880 --> 01:05:21.440
I mean it's you can't keep your eyes off of him. No,

1278
01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:25.480
not at all, And just my over all complaint, it's

1279
01:05:25.519 --> 01:05:29.519
really just Tom Cruise, but not it's not his acting.

1280
01:05:29.800 --> 01:05:30.760
It wasn't him.

1281
01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:32.239
But yeah, I was a little biased going in in

1282
01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:34.599
the first time, so I don't think I've watched it

1283
01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:38.239
anywhere near as many times as you have, But watching

1284
01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:40.800
it this time, it was more of a writing issue

1285
01:05:40.840 --> 01:05:44.840
with how they progressed the character along. I don't feel

1286
01:05:44.840 --> 01:05:47.199
like you should dig into a toothpick and a half

1287
01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:48.719
for that, because everything.

1288
01:05:48.480 --> 01:05:51.239
I think you swayed me on that point, though, I

1289
01:05:51.239 --> 01:05:54.599
think I have to agree with you. From a writing standpoint.

1290
01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:58.079
For his character, there weren't a lot of levels until

1291
01:05:58.119 --> 01:06:01.039
it gets late into the film. Yeah. Uh yeah, you

1292
01:06:01.079 --> 01:06:02.239
know what, I don't have to go four two.

1293
01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:04.400
I think I have to go four tooth picks.

1294
01:06:04.519 --> 01:06:06.639
I'm gonna have to change. Look at that. You swayed

1295
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:10.199
me for once. Oh hey, first time for everything. Yeah,

1296
01:06:10.239 --> 01:06:13.599
there we go, So both both fours. So, yes, we

1297
01:06:13.639 --> 01:06:16.079
had four four tooth picks left in the box. That's

1298
01:06:16.079 --> 01:06:19.159
what we That's what we did. That's very good. All right.

1299
01:06:19.159 --> 01:06:21.159
That wraps up this week's episode. Thank you so much

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01:06:21.199 --> 01:06:23.599
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What you have to understand is four days ago he

1311
01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:53.079
was only my brother in the name, and this morning

1312
01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:57.840
we had pancakes. Thanks for staying up with us. Good

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01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:09.800
Night world,