Aug. 10, 2026

Bad Boys (1983)

Bad Boys (1983)
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Season 6

"Life Has Pushed Him Into A Corner. And He's Coming Out Fighting." For this episode, we discuss the 1983 American crime drama, Bad Boys. The movie stars Sean Penn, Esai Morales, Clancy Brown, and Ally Sheedy. Directed by Rick Rosenthal, the movie follows a troubled teenager who is sent to a juvenile detention center after becoming involved in a drug-related crime.

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Hello Eighties movies lovers. Bill band here, co host of

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the All Eighties Movies Podcast, with a quick announcement before

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we start this week's episode, I wanted to take a

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moment to share some news. After six and a half seasons,

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my co host Jason Massek, has decided to step away

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from the podcast to focus on some other projects. Jason,

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thank you for everything you've brought to the show over

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the past six years. Your insights, humor, and passion for

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eighties movies helped make this podcast what it is today,

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and I truly wish you nothing but the best and

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whatever comes next, And who knows, maybe someday we'll return

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as a special guest to revisit one of his favorite movies. Now,

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for those of you wondering, this is not the end

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of the All Eighties Movies Podcast. I plan to keep

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the show going with plenty of guest hosts while I

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search for the right permanent co host. There are still

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so many awesome movies from the greatest decade in movie

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history to discuss, and I can't wait to keep sharing

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those conversations with all of you. One quick note about

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today's episode, do do some unexpected technical issues during recording,

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we were not able to capture Jason's final movie rating,

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so unfortunately that part of the episode is missing. Finally,

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I just want to say thank you to everyone who

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has listened, supported and followed us over these past six

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and a half years. So with that, let's start our show. Hello,

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and welcome to the Old Eighties Movies podcast podcast where

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we talk about the flops or so flops and everything

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in between. Who won the Presus Decades for movies the

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nineteen eighties? I'm host Bill Bett. Won with me on

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this journey of revisiting eighties movies is my co host

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Jason Massek. Hello Jason.

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Your crime is not that you got caught, but the

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crime itself. Remember that. Hopefully you will realize what you

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did is wrong. Hopefully you'll never do anything like that again.

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This is a juvenile facility. That means you are not

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in charge of the zoo. We are. If you think

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your hip, you're not. If you were, you wouldn't be here.

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That's right, Listeners, We are discussing with spoilers of twenty

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the nineteen eighty three prison drama Bad Boys. It was

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produced by EMI Films and the Solo Film Company and

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distributed it by Universal Pictures. The movie stars Sean Penn,

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E Sigh Morales, and Ali Sheedy. Directed by Rick Rosenthal,

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This movie's rated R with the running time of two

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hours and three minutes. So what is this movie about?

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What's on the box? If you grew up in the

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nineteen eighties and what's your local video story. To rent

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this movie, you would find this description on the back

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of the VHS box.

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It is what's on the box?

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Take it away, Jason.

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At the age of nine, they've joined a street gang.

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At twelve, they're pushing drugs. At sixteen, they're part of

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a nightmare teenage underworld of rape, mugging, armed robbery, and murder.

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Bad Boys, Bad Boys? Jason, you were me? That was short?

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Could that be the shortest What's on the box of

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all time?

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And most nondescriptive of the movie that we thought. Also,

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it doesn't tell you anything about the movie.

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Nothing at all, Nothing at all. Wow. Very curious.

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Yeah, interesting, it was different. So that was what's on

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the box? Jason. Do you remember the first time you

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saw Bad Boys?

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No, of course not, because I've never seen this film

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until watching it for this podcast. And that's just fitting.

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After reading the What's on the Box synopsis because yeah,

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I was curious about this. I knew Sean Penn was

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in this and iSIG Morales. And I'd actually listened to

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another podcast discussing this film, and I was like, what what? Wait?

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What what is Bad Boy? What are you talking about?

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Not the Will Smith movie? Okay, this is a different

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early eighties movies that I just was not aware of,

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so very curious to investigate this one. But that's all

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I got. Had you seen this before? Bill Ban?

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I thought for sure I had not seen this at all,

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so like, maybe I've just seen clips because there was

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a lot in here I kind of remembered. Okay, but

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I don't think I've seen it from beginning to band

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until this podcast. So yes, I would say it first

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watch for me.

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Also, all right, a first watch for both of us.

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Then yes, all right, so let's talk about the movie.

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What are our impressions of Bad Boys?

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Ooh, two hours, three minutes of dreary. This is one

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of the most bleak movies I've ever seen. I'll say

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this right now and I'll say it again. In my conclusion,

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it's well done. It's a realistic depiction of life in

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a juvenile correction facility. But this is a rough watch.

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It's brutal and it's a bummer. It's really violent. It

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has multiple rape sequences, beatings, and murders. I wish I

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could say this was a great Chicago movie because that's

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where it takes place. But I mean ninety percent of

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it takes place inside the Rainford Juvenile Detention Center. So yeah,

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I mean, these kids, these poor teenagers that have put

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themselves in this situation, under these circumstances, they're involved in

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some really really heavy shit. And I understand teenagers in

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high school doing drugs and dealing drugs, but this is

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real gang stuff and they're paying the price. What's your

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initial impression?

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Okay, I know this takes place as the juvenile detention center,

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but I'm just gonna keep saying prison because it's just quicker.

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To say it is it is.

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This is my overall impression of the movie. Was who

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am I supposed to root for in this movie?

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Yeah?

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Right away, our main character, played by Sean Penn O'Brien,

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we see him mug a lady, then beat up a

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guy for money. He's the one that we're following throughout

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the story and Usually when you watch a prison film,

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and I think the only other prison movie we've done

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so far is Start Crazy. Usually the person that goes

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to prison is innocent and has been wrongly accused, so

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the whole time you're rooting for this person to find

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justice to get out. Whereas in this film, it is

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what the title says. They are bad boys. Everybody in

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this prison has done wrong. So why am I invested

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in these characters? But I was two hours three minutes.

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This movie flies okay, and that's always a great sign.

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And I almost felt guilty watching this rooting for O'Brien.

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I'm like, I shouldn't be. He's a terrible person. He

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killed someone in order to get into that juvenile facility.

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I should not care. Whatever happens to him should happen

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to him because he has done wrong. But I was invested.

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That's the mark of a good movie.

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Yeah, that's interesting. I agree. I was engaged the whole time.

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I felt it was a little bit slow, though, I'm

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going to disagree with you on that. At the two

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hour running time I did not think was necessary. I

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think this could have been done stepping in my complaints

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already been done in probably an hour and forty five hour,

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forty minutes. But you're right, I also was engaged, and

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I mean, let's get into it. Let's talk about the cast.

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I mean, let's talk about Sean Penn, who plays Mick O'Brien,

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who is a thief. He's a thug, and he's sixteen

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years old and committing crimes on the street as you described,

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and then ends up in this facility. Now, man, he's

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got such a baby face. He's twenty two years old

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when this comes out, and he looks like he's sixteen.

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This is a year after Fast Times, and he looks younger.

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That blew my mind. I kept thinking, wait, because I

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kept thinking this movie came out in eighty two, because

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I'm like, there's no way.

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Super super young. He's excellent. Of course, he's raw, he's natural.

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So I really appreciated his performance. I mean, could you

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actually count on both hands how many lines he has

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in this movie. He really doesn't speak that.

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Much, No, he doesn't. Everything's in his face.

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Yeah, completely. This is a great example of face acting.

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It's all in the eyes. And I'll get to that

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later on in one of my favorite scenes. Actually, because

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he's very stoic he's very cold. And the thing about

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this movie was I'm trying to figure out who am

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I supposed to be invested in, Who is a redeemable

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character and whose journey is am I supposed to Well,

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obviously it's Mike O'Brien has Sean Penn, But it didn't

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seem like anything was happening until the end and then

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I got it. I got it, and it got me,

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so it was effective, I have to say that much.

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Okay, he's great in this. You think about this cast.

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Most of these people, it's their first roles right right,

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and most of them are still working here today, credit

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to the casting department. And I think that's what really

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kept me invested, was just watching all these actors in

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young roles. Just everybody pretty much just knocked him out

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of the park. I was just interested in all the characters,

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even though I know these are all bad people and

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I should not care or get two shits about him

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because they've done wrong.

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Real wrong, like yes, homicide, multiple I want to talk

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about Clancy Brown real quick. He's just at the top

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of my mind because we were just talking about Buckaroo Bonzai,

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but this is actually his feature film debut as Viking

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Lofgren And this is Clancy Brown's first credit on IMDb

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of three hundred and fifty seven credits. Here he is

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making his debut and makes a real impact. I think

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he's great in this with the blonde fro if you will, Yes,

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when he's jogging in his jeens, which has got to

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be really tough. He's very off putting in this, very disturbing.

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I mean, what can you say? It's Clancy Brown. He's awesome.

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Yeah, he plays a great bully in this without being

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a stereotypical bully. He knows how to push people's buttons

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more what's a look or a quick line doesn't go

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to over the top. And yes, the Viking nickname is

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awesome because his blonde locked. He is really good in this,

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and I think I was surprised to learn this. This

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was his first role. He's still doing it today. Amazing. Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean he's got such a presence. I mean

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he's got the height right, he's what six two sixty

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three at least, so he's he might be, so he's

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towering over everybody. But listeners, we're talking about these cast

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of characters that are all, you know, stuck in this no,

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I'm not stuck, but they landed in this juvenile prison.

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I'm gonna say prison as well from now on. And

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it's a dreary situation, and they're all intimidating, and they're

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all going up against each other, and I want to

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talk about next. We've got Eric Gurry, who plays the

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character of Verry Horowitz, who basically is Sean Penn's buddy

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in this if you will, his best friend, his cellmate.

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Right now, what did you think of Eric Gurry who's

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playing this kid we're talking about these kids that have

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committed serious crimes. He fire bombed a bowling alley and

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killed multiple people and says it as if it was nothing,

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just kind of saying, this is why I'm here, and

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then befriends Sean Penn's character Mike O'Brien, What did you

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think of Eric Gurry's performance as Horowitz?

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Had to laugh because when I first saw him, I'm like,

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oh my god, he looks like a young Barry Manilow.

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And then when you find out his famous Barry Horowitz,

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I just kind of called him young Barry.

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Sure, Okay, I was like, oh my god, this.

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Would be so funny if this is the Barry Manilow story,

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and this is how Barry started it out at juvenile

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detention center and then he turns his life around becomes

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this amazing musician. But as a character, yeah, he could

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have been annoying. He really could have. It's really a

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fine line. I thought he was good because he's the

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one that pretty much he gives the audience the information.

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For sure.

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He's letting us as audience know who the players are

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and what they do. And I did find it odd

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that right away he tells O'Brien what he did. Oh yeah,

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I firebombed Bowling Alley, killed three people. Unfortunately was the

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wrong people. Like wow, that's very forthcoming. But that's who

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he kind of is the actor himself. He's only done

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four movies. I think this was the second one, and

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he is probably the weak of everyone in it. There

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are a couple of lines that he delivers them like

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h right. But I did like him. I like the

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fact that social Butterfly could not handle being an isolation.

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He needs to be around people. So I did like

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a But yes, I do think he was the weak link, right,

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But as an audience, we need him, we need to

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know what's going on and everything we find out is

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through him.

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That's right, because he's been there for a while. So

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that's a great point, and I totally agree with you.

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I think he is the weak link as an actor.

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I had an issue with his performance at first, but

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like you said, this is the interesting thing about this movie.

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I actually became more and more invested in him as

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the movie goes on, and I think he plays it

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in a way that is forced. He's a young actor.

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It seems he's playing the character. He's playing at it

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instead of being the character, if that makes any sense,

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And it makes total sense from my point of view

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watching it, because that's who he would be. He would

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be putting on a front the entire time. He would

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be trying to be bigger than he is because he's small.

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So as it went on, I was like, oh, you

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know what, I actually buy this performance. Maybe it's by happenstance,

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like it's by mistake, like that he's not a very

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good actor, but because he's playing at it the whole time,

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it's like, yeah, that would make sense. Is this young

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guy that he's just got to put up a front,

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he's got to put up he's got to be try

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to be bigger than he is the entire time. It's

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a weird thing about this movie. But moving on, I

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don't want to spend too much time. But it's just

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like going down this cast list. Isi morales Man, what

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can you say? I love this guy. I've always loved him.

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He's been in our lives for so long. What a

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great head of hair, That's all I'm going to say,

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first and foremost perfect? Right, yes, obviously still kicking ask

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the guy literally does not age. I don't know it.

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He doesn't. He looks the same outside of his gray hair.

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I don't know how he doesn't. Back in the eighties

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he was in LaBamba, of course, and then a couple

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episodes of Miami Vice between eighty five and eighty seven.

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So good to see him here in this as the

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main antagonist. He's outstanding. He's a handsome guy, really handsome,

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has always looked the same.

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Yep, he's really good. He doesn't fall into the stereotypes,

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and he commands the room. He's in charge of their gang,

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right they have in Chicago. In a way, we're supposed

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to be rooting against him, or in a way rooting

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for him, because O'Brien killed his brother so he has

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a reason to be vengeful. But then he turns around

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and rapes O'Brien's girlfriend. Oh it's oh shitty. So it

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just makes them terrible. But why am I invested this guy?

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He's a bad person. We've seen him already kill someone,

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rape someone. Should be like O'Brien, just fucking kill him

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call it a day, yay, But no, I want to

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know what's going on with them.

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Yeah, it's a great point. So this is the question, right,

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why are we investing in these characters? Because this is

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really really a dark movie. So we're watching Mick O'Brien,

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Sean Penn's character, and he's dealing with a dysfunctional family.

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We see him at home, it's a broken home. He

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has no father figure. Then we see Issi Morales as

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Paco Moreno, who's supposed to be the main antagonist. But

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we see his family situation, and we see how much

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he cares about his younger brother, about his mother. We

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see his family, although he's clearly a drug dealer and

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he's going down the wrong path, but we are immediately

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somehow empathetic to his situation or investing in because of

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we can see inside that family situation, and it's not

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an easy thing that he's dealing with. And that's the

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other thing is like, we see these kids, it's really hardcore.

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We see them in the high school life, which is

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the segue to my next actor I want to talk about,

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which is Alan Ruck. It's really weird seeing him so

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young in this. I really will always know him as

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Cameron from Farisuler's day Off, of course, but to see

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him and then in the high school situation, they're just babies,

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but then out on the streets they're committing adult crimes

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and it's pretty rough. But I didn't know if you

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had anything to say about seeing Alan Ruck, because he's

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got a good part in this and he's really good.

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We'll talk about it soon here, but any thoughts on

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Alan Ruck.

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I don't know what to say. Besides I'm like, holy shit,

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it's Cameron, that's all they came to mind. And what

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his fate ends up being that was a surprise to me.

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What wasn't a surprise. I knew what happened to him,

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but still seeing it happen was a surprise. Wow, good

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guy Cameron from Paris Bueler Here he is kind of

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part of a gang also it blew my mind.

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Yeah, yeah, he's great. I'm just gonna give a couple

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more shout outs. One being the standout for me in

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this film was Rennie Santoni playing counselor Ramon Herrera. I

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recognized him right away. Spoiler alert. I'm going to talk

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about him later. Anyway, I thought he was really solid.

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He kind of was the anchor in this. I don't know,

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he was the grounding factor in this. I just really

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enjoyed how he dealt with make O'Brien's, you know, the

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Sean Penn's character, and then Paco after that, but everybody

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in the juvenile detension facility. I just wanted to give

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him a shout out. And then moving right on to Ali.

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Sheety here she is in this. I think she was

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under used in this. I have a little bit of

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complaint about that. I'm not sure. I wished she had

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a bigger part in this. In a way, I understand

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why she's in the film and the purpose she has,

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but in a way would have liked to seen her

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have a little more to do. I don't know if

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you had any feelings about that.

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I kind of thought the same thing as you, was like, oh,

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I'd like to see her more in this because you

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really don't see her in the third act, but it's

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how do you put her in? Then we have scenes

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where she's going to visit and like, eh, I don't

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need to see that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had a theory, man like if

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we shouldn't be doing this, but we can't help, but

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do this is rewrite the movie in the way we

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would like to see it. There's a different version of

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this where mixed journey. You know he's going through hell,

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but it's to get back to her. Like there's a

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love story at the center of this, but you can't

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really focus on it because obviously he's in in Juvie

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the whole time. But I would have liked to have

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seen him go back to that. I actually had a

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question for you. Here's a question. It's one of my

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additional questions. I'm gonna step on it right now. So

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towards the end, we know there's going to be this

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climax between Mick and Paco. That's Sean Penn and Isai Morales.

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We see Sean Penn in his bomb and he has

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the photo of j C. That's Ali Sheety's character, his

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girlfriend and he lights it on fire, he burns it.

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What do you think that meant at the.

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End, I thought it was he thinks he's going to die. Yeah,

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and he's pretty much saying his goodbye to her.

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Okay, I agree. It was his way of saying goodbye.

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He thought it was over, he had to let go.

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It was a way of letting go. But that was

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really really upsetting real quick. Just talking about the background

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of this movie, which is the juvenile correction facility system itself.

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I mean, there's so many aspects of it. Walking the

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gauntlet when they first arrive is absolutely brutal. They're getting

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spit on. You learn about the point system. Does the

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point system even work? We learned terms like barn boss,

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critical offenders. All these so called supervisors in the system

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are absolutely useless outside of her era. In my opinion,

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it's pretty stark. But I thought it was a very

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very realistic view on that and take on that. I

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thought it was well depicted.

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I agree with that also. And just going back to

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Ali Sheety's character, mm hmm. I think the thing that

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was here she is with O'Brien, he's in jail. Well,

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she has that conversation with her dad and the dad

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basically says that he kills someone. Yeah, and she's like, no,

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it was an accident. That the fact that she still

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misses him and pines for him, I'm like, oh, yeah,

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that just explains a lot about today. It's like he's

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a bad character, but she still loves him, and it

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just shows love cancels a lot.

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Yeah, it's high school love. Also, you nailed it. I

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mean again, back to the title bad boys. You said

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it earlier. That's the point is that these are bad kids,

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their bad seeds and whether they you know, they got

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dealt a bad deck of cards. Sure, but they've committed

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some really serious crimes. And that's interesting because we'll talk

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about a little bit more later because I was looking

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to see how Sean Penn was going to actually process that,

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if he would process that, because again, Herrera, the counselor,

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asks him, hey, how do you feel about what you've done?

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Why you're here, and if you ever want to talk

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about it, I'm here, talk to me, and he initially

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is like, I don't feel anything, But at the very

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very very end, we see him break down. It almost

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chokes me up. Right now, It's like, ah, that's it,

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that's the point he finally felt something.

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Yeah, it's tough because with these characters, the system doesn't

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help them on the outside and for the most part,

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doesn't help him on the inside. There they've just been

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dealt a bad hand in life. Yep, it's tough and

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it's tough to watch it, but it's interesting to watch

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it too, and that's just what kept me engaged.

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Yeah, they're in the system, and this is an inside

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look at that whole, that whole process, and it's it's rough, man.

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So my last thought here is that I just appreciated

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the realism. It's wrong, it's rough, it's well acted, it's

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well directed. But I don't know if i'd ever need

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to see this movie again to be it's pretty brutal.

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Yeah it is, but I did enjoyed it. I didn't

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mind putting them back on to watch it again. Good

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all right, Okay, let's move on to favorite scenes or

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moments where some of our favorite scenes or moments from

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Bad Boys and our first two are exactly the same. Yep,

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you want start with the first one, Yeah, let's let's

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talk about it. It's the street shootout, it's the uh,

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basically the drug deal gone wrong. Majorly wrong. So it's intense,

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it's well directed. It's the build up because we know

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what's going to happen here. We know that Mick and

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his friend I think it's Carl, that's Ah played by

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Alan Ruck.

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They're going to interrupt this drug deal. They're going to

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snatch the drugs. That's the plan. And it just goes right.

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I mean it's a shootout, literally, a shootout in the

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middle of the street, shotguns blasting people, going through glass windows.

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I just I can't believe. I just remember, this isn't

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that how you you'd like to go if Bill bent

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That's what you said after first death right. So it's heartbreaking.

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And one of the moments too, is what I like

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about the sequence is it's so frenetic. It's so hectic.

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When Mick is driving away, when racing away in the car,

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leaving his best friend Carl behind dead, he's crashing into cars.

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I love that, absolutely love that. It's totally insane. He's

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just a kid who's committed, you know. Now, Then when

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he actually runs into to Paco Moreno's younger brother, absolutely brutal.

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It's well edited and it's awful. It's hard to even

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say that any of these scenes in this movie is

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my favor team because they're all brutal, but it's just

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well filmed, and you're like, what's gonna happen to this

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kid now? Because he literally hits that young kid after

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going off to the side of the road and then

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driving into it basically an explosion, and it's just it's awful,

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but it's action packed and it's totally chaotic, and you're like,

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I don't know what's going to happen to any of

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these people after this.

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Yeah. I like the chaos in the scene where we

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have O'Brien and Carl and they just think, Okay, we're

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gonna surprise Paco and his boys take to drugs and

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we're home free. And then of course the other gang

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is supposed to meet Paco's group for this deal. See

455
00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:57.920
what the other half of the deal. Yeah, and they

456
00:25:57.960 --> 00:26:03.480
interfere and just craziness, craziness stuff. Unfortunately we see on

457
00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:06.119
the news all the time, and here it is on

458
00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:10.960
film watching it happen and just seeing Alan Ruck get

459
00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:15.960
shot twice, Carl and die that was holy crap. And

460
00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:19.279
when they did the shot of Poco's brothers standing there

461
00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:22.400
right away, I was like, Oh no, you knew what

462
00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:24.759
was going to happen. He was gonna somehow get caught

463
00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:29.880
in the crossfire and he gets run over brutally and

464
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:31.359
we're on our way.

465
00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:34.799
Yeah, this is Chicago, and I love there's a line

466
00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:38.559
when the African American gang part of this is approaching

467
00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:41.279
in their car right before they see Mick crossing the

468
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:42.759
road with his gun. They're like, oh my god, he's

469
00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:45.839
got a gun. They there's a line where they actually

470
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:50.480
say this is a rough neighborhood. You're like, damn if

471
00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:53.480
they're saying this is a rough neighborhood, this is a

472
00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:57.240
really fucking rough neighborhood, and you get it. I mean,

473
00:26:57.240 --> 00:26:59.960
this is what's happened. These are teenage kids walking through

474
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:03.559
the streets with a suitcase of drugs and shotguns are

475
00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:06.880
getting pulled out and all that. It's really violent, and

476
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:09.640
this is the whole inciting incident, right, I mean, this

477
00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:12.240
is what kicks off all the things to come in

478
00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:13.920
this movie. So it's brutal.

479
00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:17.000
Yeah. So for the next scene that Jason and I

480
00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:20.039
both agree on who's one of our favorites, it's when

481
00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:24.960
Viking and Tweety get their asses kicked by O'Brien. So

482
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:29.000
when O'Brien goes to the prison, basically the head honcho's there.

483
00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:34.799
The barn bosses are Tweety and Viking, and they pretty

484
00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:38.000
much rule the prison juvenile.

485
00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:41.279
I love that Horowitz actually calls them smacks. I had

486
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:45.799
the close captioning on I call some smacks, but they yeah,

487
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:47.799
you are correct, they are the barn bosses, but they

488
00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:51.720
have different It's just the the verbiage is just it's

489
00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:52.839
very interesting.

490
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:55.319
They give you the jobs you're supposed to do there.

491
00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:59.400
They harassed, intimidate, and do everything to all these other

492
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:04.480
people in the juvenile center. And both of them just

493
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:07.319
have it out for O'Brien because they think O'Brien has

494
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:12.400
squealed because Tweety has killed someone in the juvenile center. Right,

495
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:17.079
So O'Brien realizes he better do something before something is

496
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:21.680
done to him, So he gets a pillowcase, fills it

497
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:26.599
with soda cans, and Tweety and Viking come into his

498
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:30.640
cell to talk. Basically they're going to kick his ass,

499
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:35.920
and O'Brien strikes first and beats the shit out of

500
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:41.000
Tweety and Viking with the pillowcase full of cans. Just

501
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:45.319
bloody mess and doing so, Brian's now the head honcho

502
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.680
of the juvenile Census off, so now he's in a

503
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.079
new barn boss because of this. It's brutal, like he

504
00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:55.079
smacks Viking right the just busts his nose right away,

505
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:58.559
puts him down. There goes after tweety and just swinging

506
00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:02.200
the shit out of that pillowcase. And he eventually gets

507
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:06.279
dragged away and the pillowcase is all bloodied. It's a mess.

508
00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:08.680
But you had to do it or else it was

509
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:11.200
him first if he doesn't do anything.

510
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:15.400
So this is the trial, and he passes the trial

511
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:20.440
with flying colors in the most awful way. What's the

512
00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:24.799
Stanley Kubrick film. I have to ask you this question, though, Jacket. Yeah,

513
00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:28.279
so that's the comparison, right, what's more brutal the pillowcase

514
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:32.880
filled with the bars of soap beating up Vincentinafrio or

515
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:36.680
this sequence. Because I was taken aback by this. I

516
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:38.720
was shocked by it, and I knew it was coming

517
00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:42.880
because I knew some of the events that were occurring

518
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:46.200
in this film before seeing it. But even when it happened,

519
00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:50.160
when he hits Clancy Brown in the face and Clancy

520
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:53.519
Brown screams and you just see the blood splatter all

521
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:57.559
over his nose. He's just busted up immediately. It's like

522
00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:01.240
these are soda cans in a pillowcase. He is literally

523
00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:05.160
beating the living shit out of these guys. What I

524
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:09.240
love about it is that he doesn't hesitate, which makes

525
00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:14.880
complete sense. When Viking enters his cell, he knows exactly

526
00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:17.960
what's going to happen. There's no discussion because literally Viking

527
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:20.400
puts his finger on his shoulder and says, hey, scumbag,

528
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:24.599
and Mick is like it's on, and he just swings

529
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:28.079
right around and kicks the crap out of him. I

530
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:31.039
don't know how they weren't killed, and.

531
00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:33.359
It's right, yeah, this killer be killed.

532
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:39.559
Yeah, we have no choice. Very effective, very impactful, Definitely

533
00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:41.079
one of the standout scenes.

534
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:44.000
Yep, we're onto you.

535
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:48.519
Yeah, okay, so this is the breakout. I mean, any

536
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:52.160
movie that has anything to do with a jail, a prison,

537
00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:54.519
we love a good jail break right. I mean, it's

538
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:56.839
even if it's some bad dudes. This is kind of

539
00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:59.559
something I was thinking about. You're always rooting for the

540
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:02.519
prisoner to escape. You just want to see him get out.

541
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:05.799
How are they going to get out right, and it's

542
00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:10.279
cool to see Horowitz using the corrosive material to burn

543
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:13.480
through the fence and they make a run for it

544
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:16.000
and they make it, and it's just it's exciting. It's exciting.

545
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:18.079
But the thing about the scene that I like the

546
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:22.519
most is that it's absolutely heartbreaking because Mick has found

547
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.880
out that his girlfriend played by Ali Sheety named jayce Is,

548
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:32.039
has endured serious trauma at the hands of Paco Moreno.

549
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:36.519
He raped her to get revenge for his younger brother's death.

550
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:40.119
Mick knows about it, and he needs to see her.

551
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:43.039
He has to see her. What I love about this again,

552
00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:47.400
we said this earlier face acting. He doesn't speak one line.

553
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.920
When he gets to Jace's house. He goes in this

554
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:57.240
look when he sees her. Her face is completely bruised

555
00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:02.880
from the brutal attack by Paco, and he is crying.

556
00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:06.960
He's just teary eyed. And it makes me cry to

557
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.720
watch that. I watched it again and I actually cried

558
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:13.400
while watching it because Sean Penn is a brilliant actor.

559
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:17.759
At age twenty two, he's living it and to see

560
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:20.680
that she had to go through that as a result

561
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:24.640
of something that he had done. By accident, but still

562
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:28.279
something he had done. Hugs her, kisses her, and then

563
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:35.559
has to go back right back to Juvie. It's absolutely brutal, heartbreaking, bittersweet,

564
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:41.400
wonderfully performed, and barely any lines, barely any speaking at all.

565
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:44.200
He just needed to see her, That's it.

566
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:46.400
So romantic. It's really romantic.

567
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:48.759
And I think he broke out doing he was going

568
00:32:48.839 --> 00:32:54.440
to get caught, but he was willing to take that risk. Yeah,

569
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:58.400
and yeah, he's free for all of maybe five hours.

570
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:02.039
Yeah, And I feel bad for Horwitz in this situation

571
00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:05.599
because he actually gets caught in the barber way. Oh yeah,

572
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:07.359
gets the shit beat out of him by one of

573
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:10.319
the supervisors, and it's just like God, this movie's brutal. Man.

574
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:16.160
Yeah, Wagner, what yep. My final favorite scene or moment

575
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:20.920
is when the radio blows up in Viking's face, because

576
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:24.240
I knew this was going to happen mm hmm, and

577
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:27.000
it was Horrorwitz just getting revenge. And we see this

578
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:30.000
throughout the movie. Anyone that fucked with Horowitz, he's somehow

579
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:34.599
was able to retaliate, and he's very good with electronics,

580
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:37.839
and he somehow wires an explosive in a radio and

581
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:43.839
leaves the radio in Viking's cell and you're Viking picks

582
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:46.279
it up and it's the eighties. Used to put the

583
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:49.400
boom box to your ear and he's listening to radio

584
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.519
and just the tension, because the whole time, I'm like, Okay,

585
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:55.279
this thing's gonna explode. When's it gonna explode? What are

586
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:58.440
we going to see? When's it gonna explode? So he's

587
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:00.960
playing it, nothing's happening. He goes out to talk to

588
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:04.519
some of the other inmates like, Hey, where'd this radio

589
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:06.799
come from? Uh, it's mine now, blah blah blah, and

590
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:08.239
then he goes back in the cell and he's listening

591
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:10.239
to some more and then it does like a little

592
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:13.519
pop and he just looks at it, and the whole

593
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:15.519
time like, oh my god, just put it down. Put

594
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:18.039
it down. Even though he's an asshole, you know, you

595
00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:19.599
don't like it. Throughout this movie, I don't want to

596
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:22.920
see anything horrible happened to him. And then the radio

597
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:26.880
finally blows and then he's a bloody mess and that's

598
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:28.559
the end of Viking. For the rest of the movie.

599
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:31.840
He doesn't die, but he gets made pretty well. But

600
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:34.599
just the tension was driving me nuts thousand percent.

601
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:40.320
The pacing is brilliant. It's so deliberate, and it's like,

602
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:43.559
when is it gonna happen? When is okay, Nope, oh

603
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:46.679
it's not gonna happen. Oh wait, it does happen, and

604
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:50.880
it's awful. I love the fact that they give Horrowitz

605
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:54.119
that skill set. Then he's able to fix the radios.

606
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:56.920
That's kind of one of his things. Like he's a

607
00:34:56.960 --> 00:35:01.360
technical genius and he uses what is it, like fertilizer

608
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:06.440
or something to yeah, to rig that's it's kind of unique.

609
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:10.000
But that's again, this is what these kids do like

610
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:13.880
and that's very typical in prison situations, right where they

611
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:17.199
have to use what they have, they get creative in

612
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:21.239
order to basically mess each other up to survive or

613
00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:24.039
to protect themselves, right, and this is one where he's

614
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:29.719
just getting ultimate vengeance upon Viking, and you make it's

615
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:32.039
interesting when you talk about Viking and you talk about

616
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:35.719
Clancy Brown, because as much as an asshole as he is,

617
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:38.480
there's something about him where you just feel like he's

618
00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:43.000
just a big, really insecure dude and you don't want

619
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:46.840
to see him get maimed in that way. But I mean,

620
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:49.679
that's his come uppance. It's not as if he didn't

621
00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:52.159
deserve it, but you're like ah at at the same time,

622
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:55.679
it's tough. So yeah, it's a great call man, great scene.

623
00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:58.360
Yeah, we shouldn't be feeling sorry for his characters, but

624
00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:06.159
but you do still do weird weird Okay, So move

625
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:08.880
on to Swiss Cheese and complaints apartment and what do

626
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:10.119
we call it Swiss cheese?

627
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:14.639
Because although this movie is delicious, it does have shive holes.

628
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:17.280
Yeah, so it doesn't have any of those shive holes.

629
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:20.280
We just file a complaint with the complaint department. So

630
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:22.920
do you have any cheese or complaints?

631
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:26.239
I've got a few questions and or complaints.

632
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:28.960
This has got to be Swiss cheese. I don't think

633
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:33.719
there's any way they would put O'Brien and Paco in

634
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.719
the same Yeah. I don't care what the circumstances were.

635
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:38.880
If they had nowhere else to put them, they would

636
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:41.159
not put those two together. Know in their history they

637
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:45.400
we don't have a movie, but they absolutely explain around it.

638
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:48.920
But no way, no way, No.

639
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:51.079
You're setting it all up for failure. I mean, that's

640
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:54.480
just there's no way that would ever happen. Yeah, you

641
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:58.880
would do everything to avoid that. M hm, so totally agree.

642
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:04.679
Let's just talk about everything is surrounding Paco versus Mick. Initially,

643
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:09.119
Herrera the counselor, he's too smart to have not seen

644
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:14.800
it coming from Paco fans pendicitus, and it's like, it's

645
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:18.199
the night before he's being transferred. It's too convenient, there's

646
00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:22.199
no way that. I was like, ah, Herrera's too smart

647
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.840
to play it into that, right.

648
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:29.079
I think just overall, the guys who work there are terrible.

649
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:33.559
They're just collecting a check. I was surprised they even

650
00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:36.880
have him go to school. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they have

651
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:40.079
that whole system. And part of me was like, do

652
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:42.159
you get points for doing these things? Are you supposed

653
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:44.679
to get points? Taking away? Because he's talking when they

654
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:46.760
check in, it's like, oh, yeah, no smoking. And then

655
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:48.719
you turn over and there's like ten kids are right

656
00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:51.719
in front of me smoking, right, and the fact they

657
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:55.639
do the walk and everyone's spitting on them. You're allowing this?

658
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:58.159
Why are you allowing this? Don't tell me this is

659
00:37:58.159 --> 00:37:59.719
an initiation. These are kids.

660
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:03.480
It's gross, it's awful, and it's negligent on the part

661
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:06.840
of the supervisor. Yeah. I was taken aback by that. Yeah,

662
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:10.119
it was just like we see this in movies, like

663
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:13.039
you know, anything that takes place in a jail or

664
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:16.480
a prison where the supervisors are either being paid off

665
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:19.039
or they're in on it and they're you know, complete,

666
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:22.320
you know, complicit or whatever. But in this case, it's

667
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.400
just like, these are kids. What are you doing? Guys?

668
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:26.679
Why are you even there?

669
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:27.480
Then?

670
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:30.480
Why is the points system even in place? That was

671
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:33.960
a question I had. Here's another question complaint I had

672
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:39.800
is that we see Mick with the SODACN scene brutally

673
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:44.639
take out Viking and Tweety, but then when he's totally

674
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:47.639
prepared for Paco to enter his cell at the end

675
00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:52.079
he's hiding great comes out of the dark and doesn't

676
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:55.039
take him out first and foremost like doesn't literally just

677
00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:58.599
knock him out or kill him in that in that moment.

678
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.239
I had a problem with that is like, you really

679
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:05.599
are taking Paco by surprise, here's your mortal enemy, and

680
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:08.679
you have an opportunity to just snap his neck and

681
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:12.639
he doesn't, and then this whole fight sequence ensues.

682
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:17.159
Right yeah, And speaking of the fight sequence, because yeah, yeah,

683
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:20.599
well Brian does get stabbed in the leg. Fight ends

684
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:23.239
he goes back to a cell that could need some

685
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:25.519
serious medical attention. Where are you?

686
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:28.639
That's I haven't read the credits roll. We see all

687
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:32.280
the juvenile detenees return to their cells and its lights out.

688
00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:35.519
How about some medical attention for Mick? That's what I

689
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:38.280
wrote down. Couldn't agree with you more. Man, It's like

690
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:40.239
he gets stabbed multiple times.

691
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:44.000
Not superficial, Nope, they could be life threatening.

692
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:49.079
Oh absolutely, yeah, absolutely, So there's a little bit with

693
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:53.000
the violence in this there's some It seems like, speaking

694
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:54.800
of the soda can scene, that was my last thing

695
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:58.960
to say, is that he smashes Viking in the face

696
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:04.679
those soda cans, Like we're talking about broken bones, broken nose,

697
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:08.400
broken things, and it just seems like, I know there

698
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:12.039
has been some time passage, but Viking has like a

699
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:14.639
couple of scars on his face. It just seems like

700
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:18.280
he and Tweedy would be really really messed up for

701
00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:18.880
a while.

702
00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:19.760
That worse shape than they are.

703
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:21.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

704
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:25.400
Speaking of accidents, when Mick drives the car, hits Paco's

705
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:29.079
brother and then crashes the fiery fall of flame, how

706
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:30.000
do you survive.

707
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:33.599
That that's a full on explosion because.

708
00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:37.400
You hear someone yell basically, don't go to the car. Right,

709
00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:40.119
it was like, how did O'Brien get out?

710
00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:41.480
I don't know, I don't know.

711
00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:43.519
Not only should he have all those cuts and bruise

712
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:46.360
over his face, he should have second or third degree burns.

713
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:49.760
Oh yeah, a thousand. I did appreciate that he did

714
00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:52.320
have those scars on his face. Oh yeah, Like he

715
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:55.320
does look messed up at least, but you're gonna put

716
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:59.440
him in a fiery explosion. He should be like.

717
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:06.000
Yeahs until he gets sentenced because of all damage to him.

718
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:07.519
Right, it's pretty extreme.

719
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:11.599
And then my last thing, how does Wagner still have

720
00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:14.440
a job after he beats the shit out Horowitz brutal?

721
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:18.239
I hate that part and I hate Wagner when that happens,

722
00:41:18.719 --> 00:41:20.400
because I did watch this a couple times, of course,

723
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:22.159
and I saw that coming again the second time, and

724
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:26.800
it was like, because Daniel seems like a pretty stand

725
00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:30.639
up kind of guy as far as supervisors, like these

726
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:34.960
supervisors that are mostly negligent, right, he seems to be

727
00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:38.039
He and Herrera both I guess, are pretty stand up dudes,

728
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:43.159
I guess, But and he witnesses this, Wagner should be

729
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:47.400
like Noah, he should be fired immediately.

730
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:51.760
Yeah, Horowitz didn't provoke him enough to take that beating.

731
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:54.159
No, he's a teenage kid. Yeah, you just know, Yeah,

732
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:59.119
you don't do it. We're getting emotional here.

733
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:02.239
I know. All right, let's move on. Then let's move

734
00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:04.039
on to Hey, it's that an actor?

735
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:05.039
All right?

736
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:07.960
So in this segment with spotlighted character actor you have

737
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:10.800
seen in many other films, an actor making their big

738
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:14.199
screen debut, or an actor that makes an on credited cameo.

739
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:17.000
It's Hey, is that actor who we choose this week?

740
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:20.159
This week we've chosen for our Hey, it's that actor

741
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:24.760
someone I've talked about already. That's Rennie send TONI as

742
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:29.360
Ramon Herrera, the supervisor Counselor. He's a character actor from

743
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:34.000
New York City. Started as a comedy writer. Carl Reiner

744
00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:38.440
discovered him and cast him in his semi autobiographical film

745
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:43.519
Enter Laughing in nineteen sixty seven. And I'm just gonna

746
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:46.800
rattle this off. This is all from IMDb. He would

747
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:51.000
go on to offer potent, reliable secondary turns in films,

748
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:53.400
playing good guys, bad guy, serious guys, and amusing guys,

749
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:57.400
alongside such top names as Clint Eastwood and Dirty Harry

750
00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:01.000
nineteen seventy one. He starred with Steve Martin and Dead

751
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:04.800
Men Don't Wear Platt in eighty two, that was directed

752
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:06.800
by Carl Reiner. And then of course he's with Sean

753
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:09.960
Penn in this, then Richard Pryor and Brewster's Millions in

754
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:13.119
eighty five. This is what I know him from, actually

755
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:17.480
is he starred alongside Sylvester Stallone and Cobra in eighty six.

756
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:20.039
I remember him being his partner in that, and then

757
00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:23.440
Gene Hackman in The Package in eighty nine. He was

758
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:26.199
alongside Howard Stern in Private Parts in ninety seven, and

759
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:28.880
more recently Sandra Bullock in Twenty eight Days in Two

760
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:32.199
Year two thousand and Coolio and Gang Wars in two

761
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:35.159
thousand and four. In contrast, he also broke into the

762
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:40.280
voiceover business and provided expert characterizations wherever needed. He offered

763
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:44.559
his vocal skills in Eddie Murphy's Doctor Doolittle and Doctor

764
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:48.440
Dolittle too. So Tony did pass away in twenty twenty

765
00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:52.400
from throat and lung cancer. Again, he was the standout

766
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.760
for me. I thought he was, outside of Sean Penn,

767
00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:58.320
probably the best actor in this movie. I mean Eastsi's

768
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:03.079
great too, but there was something really uh empathetic about

769
00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:07.880
him where he genuinely, in moments wanted to help or

770
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:10.960
be there as a And I think that it's alluded

771
00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:13.039
to it in the movie too, is that he was

772
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:15.360
a former gang member. Maybe I just read that in

773
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:18.440
the research. No, he says that he does say that. Okay, yeah,

774
00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:20.199
but I really liked him in this.

775
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:22.519
Yeah, I did like and he seemed the only one

776
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:24.800
that still cared. So I'm like, oh, he must be

777
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:28.760
new because compared to the other prole Jesus Christ. But

778
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:31.360
it was driving out the wall. I couldn't think of

779
00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:33.360
anything he was in and Sous said dirty Hary. I

780
00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:35.400
was like, oh, Jesus, come on, man, I should have

781
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:36.280
known that from the get go.

782
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:39.840
Yeah for me, that's funny. Yeah, totally. I think about

783
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:43.280
that too, And then yeah, Cobra for me. But I

784
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:46.679
think he may have been the only like character that

785
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:48.400
had some redeeming qualities.

786
00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:51.760
I guess I agree, all right. Time to move on

787
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:54.599
to facts and trivia. Where are some facts in trivia

788
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:56.000
we have about Bad Boys?

789
00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:01.800
Rick Rosenthal, director says Matt Dylan wanted to play the

790
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:04.639
lead role of Mick O'Brien, but the director was reluctant.

791
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:09.280
He cast Sean Penn on the basis of a reading quote.

792
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:11.719
Although I'm crazy about Matt Dylan as an actor, I

793
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:15.079
thought he'd already done the role in My Bodyguard, which

794
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:17.480
is exactly what I thought when I read this quote.

795
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:20.400
I was also afraid that the audience might be conscious

796
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:24.039
of a new movie star, where with Penn, they'd only

797
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:27.320
be conscious of the character Mick. The director said, Penn

798
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:30.400
is a very good actor obsessively, so he went into

799
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:33.639
character for the whole shoot and stayed there, had a

800
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:38.199
real wolf's head tattooed on his arm, checked into hotels

801
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:39.760
as Mick and the whole thing.

802
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:41.679
I can see Matt Dylan in.

803
00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:46.280
This totally, but I also understand what he's saying is that, oh, yeah, exactly,

804
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:49.079
he's already a movie star. Like you see Matt Dillon

805
00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:52.199
and it's like, oh, he was great in My Bodyguard

806
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:54.199
as the bully, and he'd be perfect in this movie.

807
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:58.920
But then you're like, oh, you're seeing the movie star

808
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:01.320
instead of a character. Yeah.

809
00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:06.039
So, while filming the escape scene, Seanpenn broke an ankle,

810
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:10.039
which halted shooting for three months. And I was thinking

811
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:11.440
that too. When they were running. I'm like, all right,

812
00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:13.960
who's going to fall? You always have to have the fall.

813
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:17.960
I was not expecting Horowitz to get wrapped up in

814
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:22.760
barb wire. So yeah, that terrain was rough for sure.

815
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:25.880
Let's just keep talking about Sean Penn, the youth thug

816
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:29.400
Mic O'Brien. Sean Penn wanted to have his perfect teeth

817
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:34.239
filed down and capped with ugly tops and have maybe

818
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:39.280
a few cracked ones, but Penn's mother, a dentist's daughter, intervened,

819
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:44.119
ruling that ruining perfectly good teeth is definitely going too far.

820
00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:47.920
Sean Penn method already at twenty two.

821
00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:52.360
Yeah, it's like two, come on, one or two other movies, right,

822
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:56.599
what's going on here? Oh? This was driving me nuts, Jason.

823
00:46:56.719 --> 00:47:02.760
So I'm watching the movie and we're introduced to Warden Bendix,

824
00:47:03.159 --> 00:47:07.000
who's played by Tony Marcus, And the whole time I'm

825
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:08.639
watching the sky, I'm like, I've seen this guy in

826
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:13.119
something else and he's had a mustache. And then I'm like, oh,

827
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:17.360
he's the judge from the Untouchables. So I look up

828
00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:20.639
his credits. There's no credit for him being in the Untouchables.

829
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:22.719
Okay, Like that's weird.

830
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:26.280
I'm like, he looks exactly like him. So I go

831
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:29.400
onto the IMDb page for The Intouchables to figure out

832
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:33.239
who played the judge, and it's Tony Marcus and I'm like,

833
00:47:33.880 --> 00:47:35.039
what's going on here?

834
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:36.400
Yeah, well, guess what.

835
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:41.519
It's Tony maccus Senior who plays the judge in The Untouchables.

836
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:46.840
And it's Tony Marcus Junior, who plays Warren Bendix in

837
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:52.079
Bad Boys. Talk about how close the two of them

838
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:54.800
look together, and the and the movies are four years apart,

839
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:57.239
so he looks like he would be old enough to

840
00:47:57.280 --> 00:48:03.000
play the judge in the entires. That blew my mind.

841
00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:06.280
Yeah, but good on you to catch that resemblance.

842
00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:10.000
Man, Oh, because every time I look in Mike, I'm like,

843
00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:11.960
I've seen him as something, but he had a mustache

844
00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:13.840
in it and I couldn't remember what it was. And

845
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:16.239
then it wasn't until the third viewing that I finally

846
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:18.719
caught it. And then I was like, oh, that's him,

847
00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:21.039
and I looked at up and I'm like, it's not him,

848
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:21.800
What the fuck?

849
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:26.079
Love that? Absolutely love that I was watching this Bill Bannon.

850
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:29.159
As I said earlier, this movie was. I was like,

851
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:33.679
this is freaking depressing, and it's so depressing that later

852
00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:36.239
in I guess this is towards the third act of

853
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:40.880
the film, when you have Viking and Paco taunting both

854
00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:45.119
Mick and Horowitz while they're watching the television. I was like,

855
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:47.519
oh my god, even this black and white movie they're

856
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:51.639
watching is depressing. What is with this movie? Well, the

857
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:55.039
movie that the boys are seen watching is called Kiss

858
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:58.960
of Death from nineteen forty seven. The scene shown where

859
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:05.559
Tommy Udo played by Richard Widmark shoves missus Rizzo played

860
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:09.880
by Mildred Dunnock down a flight of stairs in her wheelchair.

861
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:14.400
At that time, the scene was considered a very shocking.

862
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:21.760
I thought the same. I was like, yeah, it's awful.

863
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:25.480
Yeah, all right, Jason. So the last movie, which is

864
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:28.639
Buck ru Bonzi, Yeah, and I talked about how there

865
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.000
was a cameo by Jamie Lee Curtis which I got

866
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:32.599
to see in the version I did. You did not

867
00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:35.639
Here we go again. I guess the next movie we

868
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:38.760
need to do is Blue Steel because Jamie Lee Curtis,

869
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:43.119
who was directed by Rick Rodenthal in Halloween two, can

870
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:45.280
be seen as a street walker in the beginning of

871
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:48.480
the movie passing by Paco's friends. So the scene when

872
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:50.320
Paco's looking out the window and has two friends come

873
00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:53.679
across the street and there's a lady of the night there.

874
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:55.840
That's Jamie Lee Curtis.

875
00:49:56.119 --> 00:49:59.440
What is with her cameos?

876
00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:04.400
It's crazy, I really was in the early eighties.

877
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:07.880
It makes sense. I mean, she's amazing, she's yeah, she's gorgeous,

878
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:10.880
she's talented, she's a wonderful actress, all these things. But

879
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:14.199
she clearly made friends and she was willing to do

880
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:21.480
these cameos, which is really really freaking cool. Anything else, No, Well, this,

881
00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:25.639
as mentioned, was the debut feature film of actress Clancy Brown,

882
00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:33.440
Alan Ruck and Ali. Sheety not to mention Jason Gedrick,

883
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:37.760
who's uncredited. I didn't go back to find him, but

884
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:41.639
I just love that he's because that was again like

885
00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:44.280
kind of his thing a little bit, because we talked

886
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:48.039
about risky business right where he has the one exactly.

887
00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:51.599
I was like, oh my god, freaking Jason Gedrick, awesome,

888
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:55.280
super handsome guy, obviously iron Eagle and all that. I mean,

889
00:50:55.320 --> 00:50:58.880
he has his movies in the eighties, but he was

890
00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:03.840
doing the cameos, the or the uncredited roles here early on.

891
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:06.840
I think the first time you see him is this

892
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:10.519
bidding and you see him put his head in the

893
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:14.519
frame and pops it out real quick, and there is

894
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:17.360
and there's two other times where you've seen him in

895
00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:20.079
the film and I recognize Godgaway. I was like, oh

896
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:23.519
my god, he just the silent cameos this guy. Yeah,

897
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:25.519
all right, we got to get around to Iron Eagle

898
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:29.559
at some point, definitely. Okay, so my last one. So,

899
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:32.679
when Horowitz goes berserk in the warden's office, the warden

900
00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:36.440
calls on his intercom Churchill, Churchill, get in here. Two

901
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:41.159
prison officials enter shortly thereafter subdue Horowitz. The one who

902
00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:44.079
Horowitz hits with the golf club and then slams his

903
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:48.760
elbow is played by Ted Churchhill, the steady camp operator

904
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:51.159
on the movie. And when I read this, I'm like, oh,

905
00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:54.760
this has got to be bs. This is just too coincidental.

906
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:59.239
So I looked up Ted Churchill and yes, he is

907
00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:02.599
a steady camp operator and that is him. And I

908
00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:06.239
found a YouTube video that he shot while working on

909
00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:08.599
Man with a one Red Shoe, and it's called Day

910
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:11.480
in the Life of a steady cam Operator and it's

911
00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:13.760
pretty funny. He's going around to the cast and crew

912
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:16.239
talking about like how important it is to be a

913
00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:18.639
steady cam operator and what they bring to the film,

914
00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:21.480
and everyone just puts them down through while we only

915
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:23.199
hired you because we're just too lazy to do a

916
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:27.639
Dolly track today. Okay. So, or there's a scene I

917
00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:29.920
think there's like a football scene. There's all these fans

918
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:33.199
in the stands extras, and he's talking about like, yeah,

919
00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:35.119
you know, it's amazing that all these people came to

920
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:37.840
see me work the steady cam. It's actually pretty funny.

921
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:40.400
It's like a twenty minute video just talking about what

922
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:42.599
it's like to be a steadycam operator. But you have

923
00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:46.199
Ted Chet herself, steadycam operator, cameo in this movie, and

924
00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:48.599
it's not a credit. I looked up his credits and

925
00:52:48.679 --> 00:52:50.760
it doesn't have and it shows that he's been an

926
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:53.920
actor in to other movies, but it's not credited for this.

927
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:58.239
Love It, Love It. Yeah, these behind the scenes guys,

928
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:00.440
these are the guys that work hard for the money

929
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:03.920
and they make it, make the magic steady cam operators,

930
00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:06.119
you know. I mean, God, we've been lucky enough to

931
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:08.360
work with some of our own short films that we've

932
00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:10.719
worked on. But I remember back in the day at

933
00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:13.760
the University of Miami where it was the Nash cam.

934
00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:15.800
Greg Nash, I just want to give him a shout out.

935
00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:17.760
I don't know if you were aware of this. When

936
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:22.480
we shot Vitamin C at the Orange Bowl and I

937
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:26.719
was playing the character of hard Ass and Nash developed

938
00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:30.000
his own steady cam system, which was basically a weighted

939
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:34.840
system with literally a rock on like a plank, a

940
00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:38.400
wood plank to balance out the camera on the other side,

941
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:41.920
so it would so he could move along the stands

942
00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:44.039
because it's in the stadium and he's got to do

943
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:48.559
a tracking shot, but he's it's handheld, and it was

944
00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:52.079
just the coolest thing ever. I remember that. Wow, Yeah,

945
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:55.519
the Nash cam. So yeah, credit to any all those

946
00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:58.840
guys behind the scenes, but steadycam operator Churchill. That's awesome.

947
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:02.480
So moving on to box office, Bad Boys hit theaters

948
00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:05.719
on March twenty fifth and nineteen eighty three, debuting on

949
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:09.000
four hundred and sixty eight screens across the US. Produced

950
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:12.280
on an estimated five million dollar budget, the film earned

951
00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:15.519
just over nine point two million dollars at the box

952
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:18.400
office during its theatrical run. The movie opened in the

953
00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:20.880
number eight spot at the box office in a crowded

954
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:25.800
weekend that also introduced five other new releases, Spring Break,

955
00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:31.039
The Outsiders, The Black Stallion Returns, Max Dugan Returns, and

956
00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:34.400
Eddie Macon's Run. Bad Boys remained in the top ten

957
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:38.440
for two additional weeks and ultimately finished as the seventy

958
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:42.480
fifth highest grossing film of the year in the United States.

959
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:46.039
That takes us two reviews. When growing up in the eighties,

960
00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:49.079
we would watch Steak Previews with Gene Siskel and Roger

961
00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:53.119
Ebert to hear their reviews and watch clips of upcoming movies. Unfortunately,

962
00:54:53.199 --> 00:54:56.039
they did not cover this movie on their show, but

963
00:54:56.159 --> 00:54:59.119
Roger did give it three out of four stars. Roger

964
00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:03.159
praised the movie movie for its gritty realism, authentic depiction

965
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:06.960
of street gangs and juvenile prison life, and the standout

966
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:11.519
performances from Sean Penn in Eastside Morales. He felt the

967
00:55:11.559 --> 00:55:14.800
film's first half was powerful and believable, but thought it

968
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:17.400
lost some of its impact by slipping into a more

969
00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:22.760
predictable prison movie ending. Even so, Eber considered it a

970
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:27.039
strong effort and an early showcase for several talented filmmakers

971
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:30.800
and actors. Rotten Tomatoes because it a Tomatometer score of

972
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:34.079
eighty nine percent with a Popcorn Meter score of eighty

973
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:37.679
one percent. It also has an IMDb rating of seven

974
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:42.079
point two. So this takes us to additional thoughts and questions.

975
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:45.199
What are some additional thoughts and questions I had about

976
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:48.840
Bad Boys? So here's the two that stuck with me

977
00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:50.960
for this film. The first one, So we have a

978
00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:55.239
scene when Mick decides that he's going to break out

979
00:55:55.239 --> 00:55:58.239
of prison and Barry's going to help him, and Barry

980
00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:04.440
finds this corrosive material that he uses to paint the fence,

981
00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:06.480
and the cross of material is going to eat away

982
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:08.760
the fence. The way he does this is they do

983
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:11.960
runs around the yard and he stops and fakes that

984
00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:14.280
he has a stomach cramp, pulls a brush out of

985
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:18.320
his pants, and then uses it to paint the fence. Well,

986
00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:21.280
he's got to put that brush somewhere and he kind

987
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:24.280
of stuck in his pants. But you can't do that

988
00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:27.639
because he had the corrosive material now on it. So

989
00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:30.800
where did he hide his brush to bring it back

990
00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:34.039
to the prison. I mean, if that thing could eat

991
00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:36.440
through metal, what's it going to do if it's on

992
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:40.800
your flesh. So I don't want to know, but you

993
00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:44.000
definitely had that question throughout the rest of the movie.

994
00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:48.480
And my second question is, so at the very end

995
00:56:48.559 --> 00:56:52.000
of the movie, Mick and Paco have a fight, and

996
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:54.639
it's building up to this fight. Once Paco gets into

997
00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:57.480
jail and we get to the end, Mick has the

998
00:56:57.519 --> 00:57:02.079
upper hand. He could kill at this point, and he doesn't,

999
00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:06.400
and he drops a knife, walks off, starts crying, and

1000
00:57:06.519 --> 00:57:11.079
heads back into his cell. So, as an audience member,

1001
00:57:11.679 --> 00:57:15.239
here's my question. If Mick kills Paco in that moment,

1002
00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:19.840
does the movie change for you? Because he is fighting

1003
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:23.079
in self defense and it's killed or be killed. So

1004
00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:27.559
what happens if he stabs Poco, drops a knife, walks off, crying,

1005
00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:30.199
and walks into his cell, meaning I'm gonna be stuck

1006
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:32.519
here forever. Does that change the ending of how you

1007
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:36.199
feel about this movie? Or even what if Paco wins

1008
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:39.800
the fight and kills Mick. Does that change the ending

1009
00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:42.480
for you? Or does it not change at all? I

1010
00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:47.599
think even if he does kill Paco and walks off

1011
00:57:48.039 --> 00:57:52.039
crying like he does, if he didn't, knowing how where

1012
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:54.719
his life's gonna go? I think it still serves the

1013
00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:57.960
movie because he was actually trying to do the right thing.

1014
00:57:58.679 --> 00:58:01.320
Circumstances put him in a position that he could not

1015
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:04.719
feel like he could not get out of, and he's

1016
00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:06.840
just going to be, I hate to quote another movie,

1017
00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:09.119
a bad boy for life. His life is just set

1018
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:12.960
up that way unfortunately. So I like he does have

1019
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:16.719
the restraint and doesn't kill Paco. I think if he

1020
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:19.199
still does it, I still enjoyed the movie as much

1021
00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:22.880
as I did regardless, So think about it. Let me

1022
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:26.440
know what you think. If the ending slightly changes, does

1023
00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:29.880
it change your perception of the film. So with that

1024
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:33.159
we will move on to my rating. So on a

1025
00:58:33.199 --> 00:58:37.320
scale of one to five cartons of cigarettes, what do

1026
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:39.800
I give Bad Boys? And I'm going to give it

1027
00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:45.480
four cartons? This movie was certainly a surprise. First off,

1028
00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:47.639
I just want to thank all the fans that suggested

1029
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:51.039
that Jason and I do this movie. And I think

1030
00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:53.199
that's one of the great things about doing this podcast

1031
00:58:53.719 --> 00:58:57.519
is not only revisiting movies that we loved, but going

1032
00:58:57.599 --> 00:59:01.159
back and catching movies that we did miss from this decade.

1033
00:59:01.519 --> 00:59:03.199
And I don't know if I ever want to watch

1034
00:59:03.239 --> 00:59:07.320
this movie if it wasn't for the audience, our listeners

1035
00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:12.599
who reached out and asked us multiple times to cover

1036
00:59:12.639 --> 00:59:17.400
this movie. Shout out to Andy Gordon, who I went

1037
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:19.519
to college with. He was one of the first people

1038
00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:21.000
that said, oh, you got to cover this movie. It

1039
00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:24.079
was one of my favorites. So thank you for doing that.

1040
00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:27.760
Thank you audience. Love the suggestions. We do keep a

1041
00:59:27.800 --> 00:59:31.159
list of everything that you send to us, and we

1042
00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:35.159
do try to put it into our schedule. But for

1043
00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:37.800
the movie itself, what I said from the get go,

1044
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:41.960
this is a movie about people I do not want

1045
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:44.599
to hang around people I did not hang around with

1046
00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:47.239
the kid and I was invested in and I think

1047
00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:51.039
I was invested in them because of their strong performances

1048
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:55.639
in this This is a side of life that I

1049
00:59:55.760 --> 01:00:00.880
was never a part of. Side of life I'm glad

1050
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:04.800
I was never a part of, and they may be

1051
01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:08.960
interested to see what they went through. Just high marks

1052
01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:13.960
for Sean Penn and Issi Morales and Ali Sheety and

1053
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:18.840
Clancy Brown. It's really brought me into this world of

1054
01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:23.599
jail and just how dangerous it is on the inside

1055
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:27.480
it is on the outside, and it really left the

1056
01:00:27.559 --> 01:00:31.039
lasting impression on me. Sometimes you go to movies just

1057
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:34.760
to be entertained and to enjoy them, and this one

1058
01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:40.079
just really impacted me, and I really enjoyed it. If

1059
01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:42.199
you haven't seen this movie like I had it going

1060
01:00:42.239 --> 01:00:45.320
into this, please check it out and be honest, I

1061
01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:48.599
didn't watch a lot of Sean Penn movies growing up

1062
01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:51.199
in the eighties, but now because of this, and of

1063
01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:53.920
course you know we discussed Fast Times a Ridgebound High,

1064
01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:56.960
I'm really looking forward to covering some more of US

1065
01:00:57.039 --> 01:01:00.719
movies from this decade. So with that, that's a wrap

1066
01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:04.000
on this week's episode. Thanks for spending some time with us.

1067
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:07.280
We always appreciate you listening. If you had fun hanging

1068
01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:09.639
out in the eighties, make sure to follow the show

1069
01:01:09.679 --> 01:01:12.679
in your favorite streaming platform, leave us a rating and

1070
01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:16.599
maybe even a review. For more episodes, updates, and all

1071
01:01:16.639 --> 01:01:21.440
things retro, head over to All Eightiesmovies podcast dot com.

1072
01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:25.280
We'll be back next time with another unforgettable movie from

1073
01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:29.320
the greatest decade in film history, the nineteen eighties. Until then,

1074
01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:30.679
have an excellent day.

1075
01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:34.280
Thanks for staying up with us. Goodnight world.

1076
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:58.719
If you want to your juice

1077
01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:05.400
Stop stop