Feb. 23, 2026

Lethal Weapon (1987)

Lethal Weapon (1987)

In this episode of the "All 80s Movies podcast," hosts Bill Bant and Jason Masek take a deep dive into the 1987 action hit 'Lethal Weapon.' They break down the film’s plot, characters, and the electric partnership between Mel Gibson and Danny Glover. The discussion kicks off with a nostalgic revisit of the movie’s VHS box copy before shifting to screenwriter Shane Black and his distinct storytelling style.

Bill and Jason share their first memories of seeing the film and how it shaped their appreciation for action movies. They spotlight standout moments like Riggs’ explosive introduction and the unforgettable rooftop jump, while also playfully debating whether Lethal Weapon qualifies as a Christmas movie.

Throughout the episode, they explore the chemistry between the leads, the balance of humor and high-stakes action, and the film’s lasting impact on the buddy cop genre. The hosts examine the opening scenes, from the lively, relatable chaos of Murtaugh’s family life to the stark loneliness of Riggs, before revisiting fan-favorite sequences like the gun range showdown and the harrowing torture scene. Along the way, they reflect on the film’s pacing, character arcs, and cultural significance, ultimately celebrating 'Lethal Weapon' as a defining action classic of the 1980s.

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"If these two can learn to stand each other... the bad guys don't stand a chance." We kick off Season 6 with one of the best action buddy cop movies of the decade, 'Lethal Weapon.' The movie stars Mel Gibson, Danny Glover and Gary Busey. Directed by Richard Donner.

Lethal Weapon - IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093409/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_lethal
Lethal Weapon - Rotten Tomatoes: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/lethal_weapon

Bill's Letterboxd Ratings: https://letterboxd.com/bill_b/list/bills-all-80s-movies-podcast-ratings/
Jason's Letterboxd Ratings: https://letterboxd.com/jasonmasek/list/jasons-all-80s-movies-podcast-ratings/
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Hello and welcome the All Eighties Movies podcast and podcasts

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where we talk about the blocklisters, love flocks.

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And everything in between.

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From one of the precious decades from movies, the nineteen eighties.

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Host Bill bant Lomcmeeow's journey ram visiting eighties movies is

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my co host Jason Masse. Hello, Jason, Bill, I'm too

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old for this shit. That's right, listeners, we're discussing with

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spoilers of Plenty, the nineteen eighty seven action movie Lethal Weapon.

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It was produced by Silver Pictures and distributed it by

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Warner Brothers. The movie stars Mel Gibson, Danny Glover, and

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Gary Busey. Directed by Richard Johner, this movie is rated

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R with the running time of one hour and forty

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nine minutes. The movie was nominated for one OSCAR for

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Best Sound. So what is this movie about? What's in

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the box. If you grew up in the nineteen eighties

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and what's your local video store to rent this movie?

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You would find this description on the back of the

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VHS box.

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It is What's in the box? Take it away.

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Jason Martin Riggs is no ordinary cop. He's a mad

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Max gone maniacal, a man who's killing expertise and suicidal

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recklessness make him a lethal weapon to anyone he works

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against or with. Roger Murtaw is an easy going homicide

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detective with a loving family, a big house, and a

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pension he doesn't want to lose. Imagine Murtaw's shock when

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he learns his new partner is a guy with nothing

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left to lose. Wild eyed, burnt out Martin Riggs Lethal

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Weapon is the thrill packed story of two Vietnam vets

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turned cops who have just one other thing in common.

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Both hate to work with partners, but their partnership becomes

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the key to survival when a routine murder investigation leads

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to all out, take no prisoners, martial arts and machine

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guns war with an international heroin Ring director Richard Donner

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moves that war at two speeds, fast and faster. Hot

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la days and nights explode in one show topping scene

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after another, culminating in a no holds barred battle between

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Riggs and his angel of death nemesis, mister Joshua in

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an electrifying sequence incorporating three martial arts styles and requiring

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four full nights to film. Fierce Fast and frequently funny

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Lethal Weapon fires off round after round of can't miss entertainment,

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lethal Weapon.

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Leath a weapon. How big was this VHS box that

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you're reading off of.

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Jason, No, no, I'll be honest with you, Bill Bant.

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I will look at these images on Google of all

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the different VHS covers and they're great because you see

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the different art, et cetera. And sometimes to be completely

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transparent with all of our listeners, the original box, which

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I try to choose all the time, the first original

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box relief for the VHS. I try to choose that synopsis,

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but sometimes there's just too damn long. But this is

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the one that I didn't actually see too many others

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that were different from or a shorter in length. But

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I will choose the shorter length from time to time

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just to spare everybody.

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I appreciate that. So that was what's in the box.

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Let's move on to our eighties snapshot as we highlight

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some of the creative forces from this movie.

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Jason, who do you have?

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I chose Shane Black, the writer of Lethal Weapon. Here's

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a few of his trademarks as a writer. You know,

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he uses a kidnapping as a plot device in a

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lot of his films, such as This, Lethal Weapon, The

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Last Boy Scout, The Long Kiss Good Night, and iron

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Man three. His scripts often combine action, thriller, noir, and

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black comedy elements, and five of his screenplays begin with

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the letter L. How about that btw Six of his

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screenplays are all set at Christmas time. His eighties snap shot, Well,

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here we go, Lethal Weapon in nineteen eighty seven, The

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Monster Squad in nineteen eighty seven, then Lethal Weapon two,

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he's credited for story and characters, and well, he ends

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up getting the character's credit for Lethal Weapon three and

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four later on in the nineties, and so well, that

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basically sums up his eighties. And I'm just gonna mention

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some notables afterwards, since his eighties didn't last that long.

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Here for us.

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The Last Boy Scout came out in ninety one. He

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wrote The Last Action Hero in ninety three, The Long

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Kiss good Night in ninety six, Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang,

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and five Iron Man in twenty thirteen. That's iron Man three,

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by the way, The nice Guys one of my personal favorites.

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In twenty sixteen, he did an episode of the Lethal

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Weapon TV steer series. At least he gets story by

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credit for that in twenty sixteen, he does The Predator

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that later sequel in the Predator franchise in twenty eighteen,

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and then recently he does Play Dirty. He wrote Play Dirty,

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released on Netflix here in twenty twenty five. Little trivia,

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he was twenty two, only twenty two when he sold

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the Lethal Weapon screenplay. And the funny thing is that

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Shane Black might be best known as the character Hawkins, who

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was the first victim killed by the Predator and Predator also.

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Released in nineteen eighty seven.

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Yeah, he's an actor to Shane Black, writer of Lethal Weapon.

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Awesome I saw. I went with actor Danny Glover, who

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was born in San Francisco, California, and from early on

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he committed himself to the craft of acting. He trained

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at the Black Actors Workshop of the American Conservatory Theater.

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It didn't take long for his talent to get noticed.

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His Broadway debut in Master Harold and the Boys brought

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him national attention, and that performance opened the door to

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his first leading film role in Robert Benton's Places in

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the Heart in nineteen eighty four, starring opposite Sally Field.

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By the mid eighties, clever had quickly become one of

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the most respected actors of the decade. In nineteen eighty five,

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alone appeared in two more Best Picture nominees, Peter Weir's Witness,

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which was our fourth episode we did on this show,

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and Steven Spielberg's The Color of Purple, delivering a powerful,

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dramatic performance that drew widespread acclaim. Then, of course, in

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eighty seven, Glover reached global stardom when he teamed up

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with Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon. His role as Detective

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Roger Murtaugh, famously too old for This, became iconic, and

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he reprised the character in three hugely successful sequels, firmously

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establishing himself as a mainstream leading man. Other notable eighty

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movies include Silverado and Bat twenty one. But Glover never

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lited himself to blockbusters. Alongside commercial success, he invested his

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energy to deeply personal and socially conscious projects. One of

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them was nineteen nineties to Sleep with Anger, which he

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executive produced and won an Independent Spirit Award for Best

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Actor on Television. Glover earned widespread acclaim as well, winning

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an Image Award and a Cable Ace Award, and receiving

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an Emmy nomination for his portrayal of Nelson Mandela on

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HBO's Mandela from nineteen eighty seven. He later earned an

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additional Emmy nomination for the nineteen eighty nine TV mini

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series Losome Dump and Behind the Camera. Glover made his

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mark as a director to earning a Daytime Emmy nomination

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for Showtimes Just a Dream in two thousand and two.

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That is actor Danny.

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Glover outstanding Badass.

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It was a great career.

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And this leads us to earliest memories. Jason, was your

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earliest memory of Lethal Weapon?

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Yeah, I've been hiding my excitement a little bit. This

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movie rules. I'm a huge fan, all right, So let's

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talk about some early memories.

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Huh.

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Well, I couldn't tell you who I was with or

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where I was when I saw it for the first time,

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but it was on TV. I did not see this

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in the theater, and I do remember really liking it,

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and I knew Mel Gibson from The World Warrior, not

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much else. I didn't really know Danny Glover at this time. Now,

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going back and thinking when you just mentioned Witness and Silverado,

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I'm a huge fan of both of those movies. But

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for whatever reason. I don't know if Danny Glover's face

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just kind of stuck with me. So it's just it's

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this It's lethal weapon is really where Danny Glover took

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a permanent place in my consciousness. Maybe I recognize Gary

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Busey a little bit, but that's about it. I mean,

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this movie was right my wheelhouse in regards to the

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buddy cop genre and those types of films. My love

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for this film would just grow and grow upon every

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revisit to this day. I've watched it so many times.

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I could tell you that I have an early memory

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of every scene in this movie. I could go from

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beginning to end and tell you why every scene is awesome.

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I have a supremely nostalgic attachment to the soundtrack of

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this film, as it was quickly added to my orchestral

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soundtrack collection. I would use this as creative fuel for

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years and years afterward, and this music would be another

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way to bond with our fellow film pal, Patrick Duty

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in college. That's a fond memory of mine and Patrick Duty,

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whom we've had on this podcast a couple of times.

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But it's not just the music. I remember the dry,

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witty humor of Martin Riggs. It was the Rigs role

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as I call it, as I think a lot of

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people would dub this as well. It's his move that

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he uses when he's firing off his baretta and he

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drops to the ground and he rolls in a circle

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and he keeps shooting. It's a great movement, looks very cinematic.

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It's very cool, and I would emulate that move with

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high school friends while fake fighting all the time, probably

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most likely with Chris Valenzano, fellow film buddy again who

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is on this podcast. But honestly, I think we were

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emulating the Riggs role from Lethal Weapon two. But I

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just want to be honest about that. But he does

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do it here in Lethal Weapon one. My memories, of course,

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surround Martin Riggs that character a lot. It's just him

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being a badass. I always love Glover in this franchise.

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He is one half of it. I mean, he's a

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huge part of it. But as a young and I

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wanted to be Martin Riggs because of mel Gibson's performance.

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I always think of his vulnerability, his portrayal of loss

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and inner turmoil, living on the edge, his crazed mannerisms,

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whether it's you know he's almost committing suicide in the beginning,

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or jumping off a building or sprinting through traffic. I

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remember his intensity, his sheer, explosiveness. But it's about the

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Riggs Myrtau relationship. They're back and forth, how the movie moves,

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and how the stakes get higher and higher. These are

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all things that have stuck with me over the years,

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and that's what I think of when I think of

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this movie, and overall, Bill Bank, just how fun it is.

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It's fun now.

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This is one thousand percent one of the movies that

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made me want to be in movies and make movies.

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It's a great Los Angeles movie, a great Hollywood movie,

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and it's a Christmas movie. These are the things I

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think of over the years when I was watching it.

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What's not to love?

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I've watched it since with so many friends and quoted

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it and paused it and watched it in slow mode

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to see who shot first at mister Joshua in the

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final fight sequence. I got a lot of nostalgia attached

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to this. It's an all timer. It stuck with me

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throughout the years. I am in love with lethal weapon.

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What are your early memories?

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Bill bant Well, if you've listened to our Hoosiers episode,

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I'm pretty much going to be repeating a story here.

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There was something about those trailers or commercials to this

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movie that I had to go see this movie in

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the theater, and three of my friends went was supposed

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to be opening night to the AMC Orleans eight to

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go see Lethal Weapon. But my friends pulled the fast

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one on me because they all decided they wanted to

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go watch Hoosiers instead.

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We had a vote.

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I lost three to one and we saw Hoosiers, which

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win win.

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On that one. Yeah, for sure. Oh man.

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I was so pissed though it took a while for

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Hoosiers for it to kick in because I'm sitting in

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the theater going it should be like, fucking lethal Weapon?

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Why are we watching this movie? Receiving But one of

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my friends did promise that we would go see it,

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and we did go back. Finally two weeks later, two

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of us and I remember the middle of movie turning

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to him and go and see see why I wanted

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to go see this, and he's like, You're totally right,

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this is awesome. So but I do thank my friends

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for taking me to Hoosiers.

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Clip.

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I probably would not have seen it in the theater,

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and it's probably one of the most watched movies I've

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seen from the eighties. That would definitely be another one

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that's in my top ten. Not as close as Beast Master,

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but it's up there. That's my story. Fantastic man, that's funny.

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I've definitely seen leth Or. I did see Lethal Weapon

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more than The Beast Master. Yes, it's all right. I'm

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catching flak for having not seen The Beast Master. I

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don't know how I missed it. I was living in

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a hole apparently. Anyway, lethal Weapon, let's talk about it

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a little more. You want to get into some initial thoughts, Yeah,

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let's do it.

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What do we got?

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Well, I'm gonna go over a few things here, because

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I mean, starting with I was like, we went, how

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long is Lethal Weapon? It's one of the things we

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look at just because we're scheduling and I got to

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carve out some time to watch the movie for the

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pod and I look forward to it. And this movie

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is running time is only an hour and fifty minutes

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or forty nine minutes come on clocks in it under

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two hours. That's amazing. That means you can make a

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badass movie in less than two hours. For sure, you

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ever need proof, this is it. So I love that

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first and foremost the movie kicks in. This is, without

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a doubt, a Christmas movie. There is no debate. Oh

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there is a debate. Oh come on, really.

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I used to joke that Diehard and Leath the Weapon

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are my favorite Christmas movies, right, I was just about

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to say, But watching it this time, I don't.

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Consider it a Christmas movie.

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Really, yes, because Christmas is important to the plot of

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die Hard, whereas Leath the Weapon this could happen at

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any time. There's nothing that needs Christmas in it to

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make the movie go, Whereas I think with die Hard

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you need that element of Christmas for the movie to

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move forward because they're having the Christmas party. McLean is

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coming in because it's the Holidays. The reason it's actually

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robbers are there, it's because of Christmas, Whereas Litha Webbon

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this could have happened at any point. I used to

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consider it a Christmas movie, but watching it this week,

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I'm like, no, but listeners want to disagree, have at it.

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I think you make a really really good point, and

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you make a solid argument there. I do disagree wholeheartedly,

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only because upon this rewatch. I mean, every other scene

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has some sort of Christmas element in it. Is it

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used as a plot device or to move the story forward,

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maybe in ways like it is in Diehard. No, absolutely not.

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You are absolutely right. It could take place at any time.

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But it's just that the Christmas spirit is so present

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throughout the film, whether it's the Myrtaw house and the

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Christmas tree and notes attached to the Christmas tree, or

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it's the cops near the beginning rehearsing they're going to

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be singing a Silent Night. It's built into the soundtrack.

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You hear the bells ringing in the background with the

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Michael Cayman score. It's very present for me. But you're right,

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You're right, it's just the story itself. Yeah, correct, it is.

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It's window dressing. That's a great point. So I don't

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know if you want to do this now. I was

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going to save it to the end of my initial thoughts,

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but there is a major comparison to be made here

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to Diehard. There's just a lot of similarities between this

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film and I was surprised in watching this. But we

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can talk about that at the end. If you want,

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unless you want to address it right here off the top. Now,

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let's go for it.

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Okay, it's a great one two punch for sure.

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Absolutely, So that's what I mean. This is the die

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Hard crossover. We have our producer Joel Silver, who produces

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both films. We have Michael Kaman, who's the composer for

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both films. We have our supporting actors, grand El Bush

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love him in this, love Him, Detective Johnson in the

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helicopter in Diehard. We've got Mary Ellen Trainor as the

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psychiatrist here in Lethal Weapon, and she's the reporter in Diehard.

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Correct if I'm not mistaken, And yes, then the one

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the only Al Leong, al Leong, gotta love Al He's

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Endo in this. I don't now, I can't think of

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his actual terrorist name in Diehard, but I forget you.

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It's like that's his big moments when he's looking down

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at the candy.

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But it's awesome, right, he's great.

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I'm wondering if that's his real voice.

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Yeah, Oh, we can talk about actually a little bit,

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I'm going to talk about a little bit of a

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d R in this, which is funny. Also one of

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the comparison I wanted to make to die Hard the

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ending with the final fight sequence. Here in Lethal Weapon,

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we have this classic moment where we think that mister

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Joshua has been defeated by Riggs in this great martial

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arts fight, this fisticuffs type of fight, and Martin Riggs

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gets him in a like a wrestling hold and basically

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renders him unconscious. But then of course mister Joshua for

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one last time, comes back to life, grabs one of

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the cops guns, and Martin Riggs and Murta turn around

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and both shoot him in the chest, putting him down

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for good. That just, to me, that's the end of

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die Hard. That's Carl coming back to life and shooting

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at McLain and then of course good old Al gets

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him first and saves McLain's life in that at the

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very end and is able to fire his weapon, which

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is a big deal for Alt. So I'm like, this

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is very, very similar. It's just it just really came

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to the forefront for me upon this viewing this die

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Hard type of crossover. It's just funny because die Hard

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is known as changing the landscape of action films from

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then on, when so many films were pitched as oh,

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this is die Hard on a plane or die Hard

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in as such and such, Right, die Hard on a

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cruise boat or whatever? And I'm thinking was die Hard

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lethal Weapon in a high rise?

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Right?

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And not to mention, the most obvious thing is the partnering, right,

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we have a Caucasian an African American partner together as

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buddy cops, right, So I mean that's you know, in

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the of course, the one cop is breaking the rules, right,

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and he's anti authority or whatever, and then the other

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cop is straight laced and playing it by the book.

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It's the same same thing, all right. Yeah, let's talk

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more about this film, of course, Lethal Weapon. That soundtrack

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Man Michael came in, David Sanborn, Eric Clapton.

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End of sentence, What else do you need to say?

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I love the.

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Theme in this the wow wow wa, the saxophone from Sanborn, Eric,

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I mean, the riffs this upon this watch. The soundtrack

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supported so much of this in such a strong way

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that it stood out to me on this rewatch as

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it hasn't done before, not just the talents of Sanborn

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and Clapton on their individual instruments, but the score itself,

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the instrumental score self, particularly during the desert sequence outside

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of Victorville, where Glover's got to go out there to

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hopefully retrieve his kidnapped daughter, and then of course Riggs

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is shooting everybody up. There's this whole opening sequence when

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the choppers coming in, which is the cinematic shot, and

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the dust is kicking up, and the score is triumphant.

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So it just was like, Wow, this score really is

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another character in this film. It's fantastic. Let's talk about

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Gibson and Glover. The chemistry is undeniable. I can't really

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see anyone else playing these roles. The banter, the writing,

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the crosstalk, this back and forth, the banter where they're

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kind of talking over one another. That I thought was

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excellent direction, excellent writing, that Shane Black Black comedy element

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of it. It made it feel natural. And I don't

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know that I'd seen this kind of banter between.

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Cops like this before.

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That was kind of quick and quick witted, And I

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don't know how you felt about that.

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I mean, speak on the chemistry, man, yeah, I.

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Mean shout out to casting director Marion Daugherty that was

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able to figure this out, that she thought mel Gibson

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and Glover would work. I mean, based on what they

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had done up to that point. I don't know how

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she figured that out, and she knocked out of the park.

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That's what everybody loves about these movies. It's just the

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two of them back and forth. They are opposites, I mean,

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there are polar opposites who seemed to just work together.

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It's amazing, it really is.

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Yeah, and from what I read as well, well, same thing.

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Much credit to the casting director as well. You know,

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there were obviously other choices for these roles, and especially

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Martin Riggs. There's a lot of that in the research.

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But what I did read is, you know, when they

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did their read together, that being Glover and Gibson, it

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was like magic. Credits to the casting people for recognizing

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that and casting because that. I just don't see anybody

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else pulling this off as well. I could see other

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people like their faces in the roles, but it just

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the magic wouldn't be there.

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I guess.

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Love Gary Busey in this man mister Joshua looking sharp,

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the white hair. He's a badass in this. But I'm

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going to say this a little nitpicky right from the

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get here to step on maybe complaints. I think this

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movie has a little bit, just a little bit of

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a bad guy problem. Mister Joshua Gary Busey saves it.

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But the ultimate batty is supposed to be General McAllister,

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and I thought he as the main battie was a

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little bit on the weak side. I don't know how

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you feel about that.

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He has one scene I really like him in, but

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I'll save it for a complete department because there's it. Okay,

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there's something that ruins it. But yeah, it comes across

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that Joshua is the main bad guy, but he's not

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really the main bad guy, right, I agree with it.

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Yeah, I just think mister Joshua is so bad ass,

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but he's the second command correct, And then it's like

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the big bad boss is General McCallister, and he gets

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his come up and spoke. I'm not intimidated by him

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as much as Joshua. And let's address this real quick.

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We don't have to get into it. I just have

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a question here for you regarding the Mel Gibson of

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it all. I'm a big, big fan of Mel Gibson

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as an actor. I adore several of his films. I

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adore his direction of films. But as it is well

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documented and known, he's had some issues offscreen, some major

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issues that have come to light et cetera. Major issues

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just you know, because it's controversial, et cetera, and a

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lot of opinions on those. How do you feel about

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Mel Gibson as an actor? And or I have a

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question for you, Bill Banty, speaking of him, what was

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the last movie you saw him in and enjoyed?

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Wow?

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Last movie I saw Himon? I don't even remember. It's

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been so long. Yeah, maybe The Beaver.

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I don't know sure, So that's you nailed it, Like

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I'm saying you nailed it in the way. I'm not

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saying that specifically what you saw him in last leg

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I wouldn't know, But that's about that time. I was

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looking over his filmography and for me, I remember seeing

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The Patriot, which I loved, and then Signs is one

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of my cult favorites of all time, A big Shyamalan fan.

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And then probably Expendables three, Okay, was the last thing

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I maybe the movie I saw him and that I

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saw it in its entirety, and that's where it kind of

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trickles off for me. And that was around that time

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it's the early to it's the early two thousand, mid

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two thousands, or like after twenty ten where it just

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kind of falls off for me. Payback was another one

449
00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:53.319
that was a huge one for me. Shout out to

450
00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:54.400
Mark Eliopolis.

451
00:22:54.440 --> 00:22:56.759
We used to watch that. It's a great Mel Gibson film.

452
00:22:57.119 --> 00:23:00.000
It was just curious he's still around, he's still doing it.

453
00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:04.480
They're not considered the A list movies being for theatrical release.

454
00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:07.200
It was interesting a couple of years back they were

455
00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:10.519
showing the Man Max Trilogy down in Hollywood and Marwaan

456
00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:13.519
wanted to go because he had never seen Beyond Thunderdough.

457
00:23:13.799 --> 00:23:16.160
Oh yeah, sure, And mel Gibson was there to a

458
00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:17.880
Q and A, well not Q and A. He was

459
00:23:17.920 --> 00:23:20.200
doing kind of an interview and he came on after

460
00:23:20.839 --> 00:23:23.640
Road Warrior played, and he spoke for like forty five minutes,

461
00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:27.079
and you know, this is kind of posts when all

462
00:23:27.119 --> 00:23:30.720
this other stuff came out, and I don't know, I

463
00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:34.880
was kind of impressed about the way he spoke and

464
00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:37.799
kind of you know, they didn't really get into that.

465
00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:41.079
Of course, it was more retrospect on his career, sure,

466
00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:41.839
of course.

467
00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:45.359
But I've had people that met him everything I've heard

468
00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:48.480
about him from people have been nice, but yes, there's

469
00:23:48.519 --> 00:23:52.039
definitely stuff out there. So I do try to separate

470
00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:55.359
the two because I really do love this character of

471
00:23:55.440 --> 00:23:59.359
Martin Rings in this movie. There's a reason that Lisa

472
00:23:59.400 --> 00:24:02.640
Weapon is my favorite of the series because he has

473
00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:06.519
an edge that he does not recapture in the other

474
00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:09.960
three films. We don't know what's going on, if he's

475
00:24:09.960 --> 00:24:12.119
going to break at any point in the movie. It's

476
00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:14.319
something for me that I just think is missing in

477
00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:17.440
the other three movies. And if you hear that helicopter

478
00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:19.319
in the background, I hope that's not Joshua coming to

479
00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:20.079
assassinate me.

480
00:24:20.200 --> 00:24:21.640
You're not drinking eggnog right now?

481
00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:21.839
Right?

482
00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:23.920
No, no, leaving it off to the side. I'm not

483
00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:26.759
going to pick that up. But that's why I love

484
00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:30.039
this movie. I just love that character. I just love

485
00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:34.680
the way that Gibson betrays him and Mel Gibson the person,

486
00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:38.039
mel Gibson the actor, I just keep in separate compartments.

487
00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:40.839
One thousand percent. No, no matter what your opinion is

488
00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:43.799
of Mel Gibson the person, he's an excellent actor and

489
00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:46.599
just what he brings to this character. You said it.

490
00:24:46.880 --> 00:24:49.440
I think if any I mean, anyone plays that beat

491
00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:52.240
up every guy as well as Bruce Willis, it's Mel Gibson.

492
00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:55.200
Except the thing is mel Gibson is pretty. He's a

493
00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:58.240
really good looking dude, and he pulls it off. It's

494
00:24:58.359 --> 00:25:01.279
pretty impressive. And that's another question, like, is Mel Gibbson

495
00:25:01.319 --> 00:25:03.640
one of those last movie stars that could play the

496
00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:06.279
tough guy and be that pretty. I mean, Kurt Russell's

497
00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:08.559
can do that, but I think of Kurt Russell being

498
00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:11.039
a little bit more edgy in his just the way

499
00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:14.119
he looks. He's handsome, but not quite as pretty as Gibson.

500
00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:18.039
Mel Gibson just God, he embodies the role so much,

501
00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:20.680
don't You're not just saying, oh, yeah, of course he's

502
00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:24.000
a great looking dude, but you kind of forget about that.

503
00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:26.440
You're just like, man, this guy has got some real trauma,

504
00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:30.519
he's got some real problems, and he embodies it. He's

505
00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:34.279
living it in this role. You're so invested in his

506
00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:38.880
character and then to see the journey with how he's

507
00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:41.440
working it out and how he kind of has to

508
00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:44.200
adapt to this new relationship with a new partner in

509
00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:46.839
Glover and vice versa, Glover's got it, then think you

510
00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:49.759
know he's about to retire, he's just turned fifty, et cetera.

511
00:25:50.119 --> 00:25:52.359
It's fun to watch that. It's a great dynamic, right,

512
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:55.160
It's a great setup for a relationship to see how

513
00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:57.279
this is going to work, and they make it work.

514
00:25:57.319 --> 00:25:59.319
And not only do they make it work, but then

515
00:25:59.319 --> 00:26:01.559
it turns in to a lot of fun. So just

516
00:26:01.599 --> 00:26:05.400
a real credit to both actors actually, but Gibson every

517
00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:08.000
time I watch this just really impresses me time and

518
00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:10.440
time again. Speaking of which, did you think about their

519
00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:14.039
ages during this film? Because Glover is supposed to be

520
00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:18.359
turning fifty in this movie his character Roger Mertau, he's forty.

521
00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:21.839
He's forty years old when they filmed this, which is crazy.

522
00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:25.599
And then you have Gibson, who I think is supposed

523
00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:29.200
to be thirty eight in the movie his character, But

524
00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:29.920
how old.

525
00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:32.440
Was he when they filmed it? Thirty? There you go.

526
00:26:32.759 --> 00:26:35.279
Even Rianne supposed to be seventeen eighteen, she was twenty

527
00:26:35.319 --> 00:26:39.640
four to twenty five. And I think Mrtall's wife, yeah,

528
00:26:39.759 --> 00:26:43.240
Charlene love Trish, Yeah, she's five years older than Glover

529
00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:46.720
and she was playing the young I think a little

530
00:26:46.759 --> 00:26:47.559
bit younger wife.

531
00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:50.680
Yeah, So yeah, I mean it's just funny with the

532
00:26:50.680 --> 00:26:53.279
ages and how old they're supposed to be. But everybody

533
00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:56.599
looks great. They're in great shape. Glover looks I mean

534
00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:59.920
for being forty, even he looks great shape. They had

535
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:02.160
personal trainers to get in shape for this and follow

536
00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:04.200
cops are They did the whole thing. So I buy

537
00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:06.920
a hook line and sinker. Great quotes from this movie

538
00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:08.680
I'm too old for this shit and all the banter.

539
00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:10.839
It's funny because I'm too old for this shit. Is

540
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:13.079
the is the quote right? And it plays out throughout

541
00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:15.640
the franchise. But the other stuff, it feels like it's

542
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:18.519
so quotable, but it's all back and forth dialogue that

543
00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:20.440
you would need a partner to do with, which is

544
00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:22.720
fun to do with other people, but it's not You

545
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:25.400
can walk around and just quote lethal weapon all the time.

546
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:28.160
Outside of I'm too old for this shit. Yeah, every scene,

547
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:30.279
man is great. I wanted to say this the scene

548
00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:33.480
when they go to the house to investigate and interrogate

549
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:37.279
the drug dealer that supposedly supplied Amanda Huntsecker with her

550
00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:40.799
bad drugs, her contaminated drugs. I've been to that house.

551
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:43.680
That's the Richard Donner house. It's really cool. I just

552
00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:45.559
wanted to That was a highlight for me. I did

553
00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:48.200
a little bit with Patrick duty I think was Chris

554
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:51.119
Wendsayan on that too, probably, but we did a little

555
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:54.480
bit of It was for a reality show and they

556
00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:56.559
needed me to sort of play a certain part, and

557
00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:59.200
it was basically part of a pitch I believe had

558
00:27:59.240 --> 00:28:01.839
to do sports like the good old days. It's no

559
00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:03.039
I can't even think of the name of it. And

560
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:05.160
Pat's gonna kill me for this, Patrick that is anyway.

561
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:06.880
That was cool just to be on the house because

562
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:08.880
you walk in, You're like, oh, this is totally the

563
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:11.200
scene from Lethal Weapon and I was looking for You

564
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:12.920
can't see it obviously in Lethal webon but off to

565
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:15.759
the side when they're walking through to the backyard where

566
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:18.160
the pool is. If you're there in the Richard Donner house,

567
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:19.680
there's a big Superman.

568
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:21.160
Sculpture in the yard. Oh nice.

569
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:23.680
I was like, hell, yeah, man, there is Superman. That's

570
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:26.759
definitely Donner's place. That was a cool experience just to

571
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:30.240
be on the Donner property and shooting something for entertainment.

572
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:34.200
We'll talk about other great scenes later on. Just to

573
00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:37.960
wrap up initial thoughts, here was gonna ask you, do

574
00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:42.319
you feel like this plot is all or at all convoluted.

575
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:46.960
I do have two questions about this movie, Okay. One

576
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:51.440
is it does feel they're little pieces missing for a while,

577
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:55.720
that there's needs I agree filled in or they had

578
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:58.759
to cut it out for time or whatever it is.

579
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:03.200
I did feel it watching it this time. It didn't

580
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:04.039
bother me.

581
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:04.759
Yeah.

582
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:07.359
I think in a way this is almost like a

583
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:11.039
Jane's Bond movie in the sense of I'm just watching

584
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:13.480
it for the action, and then the fourth or fifth

585
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:17.440
time you watch it, you go, oh, what's the story? Oh, okay,

586
00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:21.039
I got it. I didn't really care about it because

587
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:24.200
it's just so much fun regardless, you know, watching this time,

588
00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:26.119
I really had to watch for story. But no, that

589
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:28.920
did make sense for me. But there is one thing

590
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:31.200
that drives me up the wall. I still have not

591
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:34.480
figured it out. Okay, it's the scene in which and

592
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:38.720
I love this shot when mel Gibson gets shot and

593
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:41.599
goes through the glass. I've mentioned this before. I'm like,

594
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:44.480
if if I have to die a terrible way, that's

595
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:45.799
the way I want to go. I want to get

596
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:49.519
shot and go through flying through the glass of a building.

597
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:51.599
That's my way. And you want to not saying someone

598
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:52.480
please do it to me.

599
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:53.279
Right.

600
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:56.279
So after that happens and they talk about that they

601
00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.480
have the edge. Then Myrtal gets that call that someone's

602
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:06.440
coming to the house and Mertal says, oh dimples, and

603
00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:08.960
it comes on, Yeah, how did you know that? And

604
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:12.440
then Myrtow knows to race back to the house because

605
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:14.319
something's going to happen. And they go back to the

606
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:16.400
house and they see that Rann's been kidnapped.

607
00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:16.759
Right.

608
00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:19.400
I still don't understand how he puts that together because

609
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:22.359
I was like, wait, is she dating Joshua? But then

610
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:26.839
when I read it, supposedly someone kills Rhann's boyfriend when

611
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.799
she gets kidnapped. Yeah, I still understand how Myrtaw figures

612
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:32.160
it out that he needs to go back to the

613
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:33.720
house because they're in trouble.

614
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.039
Great question, and I've thought about this as well. I

615
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:40.079
just went with it. But there are things obviously that

616
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:42.799
happen off screen here that they allude to that we

617
00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:45.680
do not see, so you do have to try to

618
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.160
put together the pieces. As soon as Martin raises shot

619
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:50.359
and goes flying back through the window, fantastic. That's a

620
00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:52.480
great moment because it does kind of take you by

621
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:55.480
surprise if you don't know what's coming. It's a great shotgun, blacks,

622
00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:59.640
great stunt, all that fantastic, and obviously he's wearing the

623
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:02.960
bullet proof vest. I think in that moment, we're supposed

624
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:07.720
to understand that Murtaw puts it together that oh, now they're

625
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:12.480
coming after us, because obviously they're literally, whether it's mister

626
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:18.079
Joshua or this shadow company, this group of mercenaries, they're

627
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:22.559
clearly taking out anyone that is connected to them that

628
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:25.799
could talk to the police. And now that they've seen

629
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:28.720
Huntsacker talk to the police, that's the whole thing. Mister

630
00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:31.720
Joshua says, hey, I took out Huntsacker. He was the

631
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:33.839
one last piece, but he talked to the cops. And

632
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:36.599
then McAllister says, we have to turn up the heat,

633
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:39.279
meaning now we got to take out the cops. And

634
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:42.240
so I think Mrtaw himself, even though he's not privy

635
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:45.680
to that conversation between Joshua and McAllister, he still understands

636
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.119
that as a cop, like, oh, they're coming after If

637
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.240
they came after Riggs in that way, they're coming after

638
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:54.759
me next. So I got to get home right And

639
00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:57.799
then it confirms it when he gets the call that Rihann's.

640
00:31:57.400 --> 00:31:58.480
Boyfriend has been murdered.

641
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:01.880
Oh, they say he's been yeah. In the he the

642
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:04.599
call is the that the yeah, that he's been killed.

643
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:07.920
I don't think I've ever caught that's yeah. When he

644
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:10.839
gets the call they say, we found this the body

645
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:13.240
of this blonde guy or something across from your house

646
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:14.000
or something like that.

647
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:15.119
I forget specifically.

648
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:18.200
I apologize, but he's like, oh, you're gonna tell me

649
00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:21.960
it's he's got dimples or something. There's an incident involving

650
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:25.319
the kid that happened, and he puts it. He's like, oh,

651
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:28.640
that's not good. Okay, yeah, I have to go.

652
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:30.839
Back to watch it again with the subtitles because I

653
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:33.400
don't think I ever caught the fact that they found

654
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:35.960
a body. I thought it was just someone was coming

655
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.680
to the house and he goes, oh, someone with dimples,

656
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:40.519
So I thought at that point he was at.

657
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:43.960
I don't know if they say specifically it was a body,

658
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:47.640
but I don't know the actual line of dialogue, but

659
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:50.599
something happened to him, like it's very it's not good.

660
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:54.599
Call to him is that they found something. That's all right?

661
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:57.400
So this clears up a little for me. Yeah, but

662
00:32:57.759 --> 00:32:59.559
thanks for answering that question. I just threw that out

663
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:01.680
there for the plot being a little confident, because when

664
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:03.880
I was replaying the movie in my mind before rewatching

665
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:06.599
it for the podcast, I was, oh, yeah, how does

666
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:09.119
it get from A to Z? Here it goes from

667
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:11.000
this to that, and then how do they put that together?

668
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:13.640
And then they decide, for instance, in the like kind

669
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:18.200
of halfway third way through, the investigation from their perspective

670
00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:21.680
is pretty much done. They just figured Amanda Huntsacker got

671
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:24.319
some bad drugs, so she did not commit suicide.

672
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:25.519
Technically she was murdered.

673
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:28.440
And then the scene happens with the drug dealer who

674
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:32.480
provided the drugs and he gets killed, so case closed.

675
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:36.200
But then it's Rigs who's kind of like, ah, what

676
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:38.400
about that other prostitute that just happened to be on

677
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:41.880
the scene who was Amanda's friend? The thin story, which

678
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:45.599
is thin, right, is totally thin, and that leads them

679
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:48.920
to go to Dixie's house, which then, of course another

680
00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:51.079
great scene, fantastic explosion, they.

681
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:53.400
Get saved by those little kids. Completely.

682
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:56.039
I love that in these movies too, when you think

683
00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:59.319
about it, where it's not too contrived where they're literally

684
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:03.640
walking up to house and they barely survived that they

685
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:06.160
were seconds away from being killed in that explosion.

686
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:09.480
It's like, oh, wow, that's cool. That's just to think that.

687
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:11.960
Was just those kids didn't recognize they were cops. They

688
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:16.199
would have blown up. That's a fun scene. Every scene

689
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:18.880
is fun in this here's the last thing I'll say. Man,

690
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.800
it's so much fun that even during the final credits

691
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:26.039
we get some great Elvis Christmas music and then after that,

692
00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:31.119
probably the cheesiest eighties song during any final credits of

693
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:32.119
any eighties that.

694
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:35.760
Was my complaint. It was one of the worst worst

695
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:40.360
closing credits songs. It's so bad, Jason, it's not even

696
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:44.400
listed in the credits. I was like, who sung this crap?

697
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:46.199
And I wanted to know, and it's not in the

698
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:51.840
credits bill even love can Become a Lethal weapon. Oh

699
00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:52.960
that is terrible.

700
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:55.960
As it was playing, I texted Patrick Duty and I

701
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:58.000
was like, because we used to sing it all the

702
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:01.119
time joking because it's so horrible.

703
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:04.639
I almost wish they took Eddie Grant's Romancing the Stone

704
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:07.159
and put it at the end credits, and it would

705
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:09.199
have been better and made more sense.

706
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:10.239
Than that song.

707
00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:13.320
Yeah, and the song is entitled Leave the Weapon, correct,

708
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:16.159
I mean that's the yes, right, and I believe it's

709
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:20.119
on the soundtrack, is it. Yeah, it's just not credited

710
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:24.119
in the film. Hilarious that it wasn't good stuff. That's

711
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:26.519
all you got any other initial thoughts to attack on there,

712
00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:27.320
Bill Bant.

713
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:27.840
No, that's it.

714
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:31.400
Let's move on to favorite scenes or moments. All right,

715
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:33.800
We're not going to rehash the whole movie. We'll just

716
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:37.159
point out some favorite scenes to moments. Jason, what do

717
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:37.519
you have.

718
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:41.960
My first favorite scene? I'm entitling cocaine and Christmas trees.

719
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:46.400
This isn't the actual official introduction of Martin Riggs, but

720
00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:49.280
this is really what explains first and foremost that he's

721
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:53.360
a cop and that he is maybe not so well

722
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:55.679
in the head. It's just a lot of fun. We're

723
00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:58.480
introduced to this character, Martin Riggs, and he's looked, you know,

724
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:01.760
he's in plain clothes, and he's on a Christmas tree lot,

725
00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:04.239
a Christmas tree sails a lot, and he's in the

726
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:06.719
midst of a drug deal, the cocaine deal, with these

727
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:09.679
three guys, these three bad guys, and he's going to

728
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:13.960
purchase some cocaine and they're like, okay, he tests the cocaine.

729
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:15.760
This is a nice moment in the scene. It's really

730
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:18.360
funny and it's so in character for Martin Riggs and

731
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:21.280
credit to Mel Gibson as an actor. Where he is

732
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:23.360
sampling the cocaine and he puts a little like on

733
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:26.039
a little switchblade and he raises the cocaine up to

734
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:28.519
his nose and he doesn't know how to sniff it

735
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:30.400
or he can't decide how to sniff it, and then

736
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:32.960
just puts it in his mouth. That's exactly what Martin

737
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:34.880
Riggs would do. You'd just eat it, or he'd put it,

738
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.559
rub it on his teeth or whatever. And he seems

739
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:40.159
to like what he's sampled. He's like, uh, yeah, I'll

740
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:42.480
take it, and they're like how much. He's like, well,

741
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:44.800
I'll take it all. And they're like all right, we'll

742
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:46.280
sell it to you for a hundred and he's like

743
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:48.960
pulling out a hundred bucks and they're like, no, moron,

744
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:53.119
not one hundred dollars, one hundred thousand, and then Riggs

745
00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:57.960
reveals himself as a cop. Shoot out ensues and they're

746
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:00.679
running through the Christmas trees, which is a great I love.

747
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:03.760
But this is the best part is that the other

748
00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:07.079
cops arrive on the scene to back up Riggs, and

749
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:10.719
now Riggs gets caught by one of the bad guys

750
00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:12.519
as he's distracted, and the bad guy has a gun

751
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:15.239
to his head and Riggs is like, go ahead, shoot me,

752
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:17.639
shoot me, and he keeps saying it over and over again,

753
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:19.960
and it becomes intimidating for the bad guy holding the

754
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:22.159
gun to his head, and Riggs is just like, I

755
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:23.880
don't care, shoot me, shoot me, shoot me, and he

756
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:26.519
says it a thousand times. He actually says at one point,

757
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:27.840
put it in my mouth, put it in my mouth,

758
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:30.440
just do it, do it, shoot me. We're like, who

759
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:35.280
is this guy? He's insane. He's literally tempting the bad

760
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:37.920
guy to just shoot him in the head. And finally

761
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:40.960
it gets to the point where he just spins around,

762
00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:43.000
grabs the bad guy's gun and puts it right back

763
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:49.320
into his chin. And the look on Riggs's face is

764
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:54.079
so intense and it's like he is so caught up

765
00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:57.320
in the moment, and the cops wrangle the bad guy

766
00:37:57.360 --> 00:37:59.800
away and he literally has to take this moment. It's

767
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:03.119
a close up on Getson's face where his eyes are

768
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:05.559
wide and his cheeks are shaking, and he has to

769
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:08.400
take a deep breath to come down from it because

770
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:11.119
it's just so heightened for him in that moment. But

771
00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:13.760
it's a fun action sequence where you get a real

772
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:16.760
sense of Okay, this guy is a loose cannon. This

773
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:20.679
Martin Riggs guy, this cop who apparently works in like

774
00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:23.159
the narcotics department here is just a real loose cannon.

775
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:27.239
So I love this introduction of Martin Riggs the character.

776
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:28.960
Yeah, it's a fun scene. I do like her a

777
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:29.400
lot too.

778
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:32.440
One of the things I noticed that made me laugh

779
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:36.239
is when initially the deal is going down, it's Martin

780
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:39.599
and three other guys, and once Martin says that he's

781
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:42.360
a cop, we find out there's a guy in the

782
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:46.880
truck that's behind Martin, and the guy pulls out a shotgun.

783
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:49.639
He's going to blow Rigs away, and he's able to

784
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:52.400
duck and it hits one of the three bad guys instead,

785
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:55.000
and we see him he's all blasted with bullet holes.

786
00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:58.679
And then Riggs pulls out his bretta and starts bowling

787
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:02.039
away the second guy, but the second guy falls next

788
00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:05.880
to him and nothing, no bullet holes. Whatsoever. I'm like,

789
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:08.960
you just bloodied up the first guy. Where's the special

790
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:11.239
effects on the second guy? I don't think I ever

791
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:15.000
noticed that before. And that's uh, oh, it's great. The

792
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:18.840
gunplay in this you cannot talk enough about. The bretta

793
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.280
is like a character to itself. It seems the fact

794
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.559
that he carries a Bretta and Clever carries a Smith

795
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:28.239
and Wesson. But the gunplay is wonderful. With anytime Mel

796
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:31.760
Gibson is shooting in any lethal weapon film, it's incredible.

797
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:34.760
Oh yeah, yeah, I had that down in his favorite moments.

798
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.440
Anytime he shoots the gun, the clip's empty every time.

799
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:40.239
Oh yeah, he doesn't fire at one time, it's all

800
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:43.000
fifteen rounds. The thing is, he turns into an animal,

801
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:46.039
he turns into a beast. He goes into beast mode

802
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:48.719
and it's intense, and he just put the gun in

803
00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:51.719
somebody's chest and fire it seven times. It's funny you

804
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:53.760
mentioned one of those little gaffs with you don't see

805
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:56.559
the blood on the one guy, because this movie does

806
00:39:56.800 --> 00:40:00.360
have a handful of those gaffs and goofs and shoes,

807
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:03.920
with like the classic being the with the jumper jumping

808
00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:04.559
off the building.

809
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:06.480
Oh yeah, which I'm sure.

810
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:10.079
You might get into, but I'll get into yeah now. Also,

811
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:12.320
there's a lot of what I picked up on a

812
00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:13.079
lot of ad R.

813
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:14.039
In this film.

814
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:17.480
I didn't quite notice before you can tell they had

815
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:19.400
to re record some dialogue and put it in. So

816
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:21.599
I wonder if it's because of that witty banter all

817
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:23.840
the time they decided to change things up here and there,

818
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:26.679
some of the words weren't clear enough because they're talking

819
00:40:26.679 --> 00:40:27.320
over one another.

820
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:28.760
I I'm just curious about that.

821
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:31.760
So anyway, what do you have next for a favorite scene?

822
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:34.480
I have the rooftop jump scene?

823
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:35.320
Mm hmmm.

824
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:39.639
So we have Riggs and Myrtal partnering up, and Myrtle's

825
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:42.400
on too excited about having Riggs as his partner because

826
00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:46.119
he's been reading his bio and he knows about the

827
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:50.320
rumors going around that Riggs is psychotic and he's either

828
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:53.639
trying to get psycho pay or he really has death wish.

829
00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:57.199
So they get a call for rooftop Jumper and Riggs

830
00:40:57.239 --> 00:40:59.360
tells Burton, oh, I've dealt with this before, I can

831
00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:03.119
take care of it, and Murtag goes, Okay, do it,

832
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:05.880
which is kind of funny considering what we know about

833
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:07.920
Riggs at this point, so I wonder how this is

834
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:10.360
going to turn out, right, So of course rig goes

835
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:13.199
up there, and the guy, of course, is hesitant to

836
00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:15.880
have Riggs talk to him, and Riggs is trying to

837
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:18.679
calm him down, and he gets to the point where

838
00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:22.920
he literally handcuffs himself to the jumper. It tells the jumper, now,

839
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:26.159
if you're going to jump, it's murder, so you can't jump,

840
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:30.159
And the jumper has reversed course and now he doesn't

841
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:32.440
want to jump, but Riggs goes, you know what, I

842
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:35.320
think we should jump anyway, And sure enough, the two

843
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:39.440
of them take a skydive off the ledge, much to

844
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:44.639
myrtos to grin, and luckily the air bag has been

845
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:48.599
deployed so they do land safely on the ground. But

846
00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:50.480
there is an excellent gaff in that when you see

847
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:52.719
the two of them jump that the handcuffs come apart,

848
00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:54.840
so they grab each other's hands to try to make

849
00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:58.079
it sound like they're still connected. But that's still to me,

850
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:00.880
I'm like, man, that's a pretty dangerous done if you're

851
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:02.880
both going down the same time, because if you don't land,

852
00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:04.920
if you don't hit the bag the same time, the

853
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:08.760
second guy seem to be okay. It's just a fun scene.

854
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:11.480
It's a little bit comical because there's one point where

855
00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:13.400
Rigs says something to the fact like, come on, man,

856
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:16.119
my boss is down there watching help me out here.

857
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:18.920
That's great trying to talk them off the ledge.

858
00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:21.719
I'm like, oh Jesus, yeah, I was gonna say, there's

859
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.400
a little bit in the trivia too, and I apologize

860
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:26.719
that I'm stepping out something maybe you'd present later with

861
00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:30.400
this particular scene, because it is a fantastic stunt and

862
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:34.199
it looks extremely dangerous. But when they drop to the

863
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:38.760
inflatable at the bottom, I guess so from one angle

864
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:43.519
when you're watching that stunt, because technically that that flatable

865
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:46.920
bag that they fall into is in the foreground. They

866
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:49.679
actually had to paint it to look like the street,

867
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:52.039
so when you're watching the shot of them jump off

868
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:55.320
the building, it appears as though the street is still

869
00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:58.159
there without the bag or something like that. There's something

870
00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:01.039
they did where they literally painted the I don't know

871
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:02.880
if it's the shot of them when they actually do

872
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:06.159
the stunt jumping off the roof, but there's a shot

873
00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:09.719
where the bag is there, but it's painted as the

874
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:11.079
street and you don't notice it.

875
00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:12.920
It looks like the street. Yeah, we have a lot

876
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:17.159
of rooftop jumping in this movie. But afterwards, Myrtaw is

877
00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:20.559
so pissed at Riggs about what happened, even though you

878
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:22.159
know Riggs said, hey, I got to jump her down.

879
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:22.679
He's safe.

880
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:28.519
Myrtal pulls him into a storefront that's being remodeled and

881
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:31.079
just straight up tells him. He's like, are you crazy?

882
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:34.400
Are you crazy? I need to know because I don't

883
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:38.320
want to be killed from your actions. And Riggs confesses, yes,

884
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:41.119
I actually have a bullet. I contemplate it and the

885
00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:44.039
only reason I haven't done it yet is because of

886
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:47.800
the jobs he likes being a cop, And Myrtaw said,

887
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:50.079
I've had enough. He's like, just blow your brains out,

888
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:54.639
and he gives him his gun. Yeah, and Riggs is

889
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:57.280
going to call his bluff and sticks a gun in

890
00:43:57.320 --> 00:43:59.280
his mouth and he's about to pull the trigger and

891
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:02.800
Myrtaw has to pull it away and he's like, you're

892
00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:07.840
not trying to obtain psychopay, you are crazy. And now

893
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:11.920
Bertaw is really scared because he doesn't know what he

894
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:14.760
is dealing with. That's what I love about this movie

895
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:17.280
is we don't know what we're dealing with when it

896
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:20.119
comes to Riggs throughout this movie. That just proves it

897
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:22.840
right there. I mean, he literally almost kills himself in

898
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:25.119
front of his partner, and what the hell was this

899
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:26.760
partner going to do if he did pull the trigger?

900
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:29.199
Non sequences of that, like, oh yeah, I told him

901
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:30.440
to shoot himself and he did.

902
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:36.639
Sorry, so yeah, amazing, I'm glad you chose that scene again,

903
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:41.519
Gibson Ultimate intensity. My theory is that he pulls the trigger.

904
00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:46.400
You see there's the quick shot of Murta. He sticks

905
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:49.480
his thumb in between the uh what would you call?

906
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:51.679
I mean, oh yeah, that's I figured like us, like

907
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:55.599
the webbing between your thumb and you're right.

908
00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:58.239
Yeah, he catches like oh that's got to hurt. Oh yeah, completely.

909
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:01.239
I'm surprised he doesn't yell out more when that happens

910
00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:05.599
because he catches it for the hammer. The hammer of

911
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:08.000
the gun can come down and fire the bullet. It's like,

912
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:11.119
holy crap, he literally was going to kill himself right

913
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:14.440
in front of him. Yeah, it's from the jump going

914
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:18.320
right into that scene, they're really pushing it with Rigs,

915
00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:20.880
and then you get it afterward. When why, Glover's like,

916
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.199
oh my god, I literally am now partnered with a

917
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:26.719
psychopath just before I'm going to retire tool for the shit.

918
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:28.320
Great scene, man, Glad you called him out.

919
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:29.679
I already have next.

920
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:33.519
Next, I have what I'm calling the after dinner chat.

921
00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:37.679
So after a day of well, after an eventful day,

922
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:41.000
they end up at Murta's house and they're having dinner

923
00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:42.599
with the fam and this is the first time Martin

924
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:45.639
Riggs is meeting that the Murtaw family. We see Rhianna

925
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:49.320
has developed an almost immediate crush on Rigs and that's

926
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:53.239
pretty fun. And after the dinner, we have our our

927
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:55.800
guys being guys out in front of the garage and

928
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:58.760
we see that Murtaz got a speedboat motor boat and

929
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:01.280
he's trying to fix it, and they're having a beer

930
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:05.039
and having this after dinner chat, and there's some little

931
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:07.159
bit of hijinks and back and forth, which is nice,

932
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:10.960
with then Riggs bringing up the fact that he just

933
00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:14.280
can't let go of the fact that Dixie the prostitute

934
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:17.360
was there at the building where Amand had jumped off

935
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:20.000
of and it just doesn't quite add up. It just

936
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:22.679
feels a little bit questionable. And then Murta is like, ah,

937
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:24.320
you gotta let it go. It's it is what you

938
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:27.480
thought it was. It's over. And basically then the scene

939
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:32.079
leads to Murta walking Rigs to his truck and saying

940
00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:35.119
good night. And I just love this moment. It stuck

941
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:40.000
with me as a kid. It's Gibson showing his range

942
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:44.039
in this because we understand that he is suffering from

943
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:47.280
the trauma of the loss of his wife, whom died

944
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:50.440
in a car accident only a few years before if that,

945
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:54.719
and then of course we do understand from the character

946
00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:58.159
description development throughout up to this point that he also

947
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:01.920
was in Vietnam, and Myrta understands this. He was also

948
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:05.360
in Vietnam. They did not serve together, but separately, Riggs

949
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:10.599
understands that Mrta isn't thrilled about this partnership and that

950
00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:15.599
Riggs presents a real problem, very unpredictable, and could be

951
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:19.360
very dangerous, and so Riggs decides to share in this

952
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:21.239
moment I've always loved it. And there's this bit of

953
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:24.280
back and forth dialogue which I'll read real quick, when

954
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:26.880
just before Riggs is about to get into his truck,

955
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:29.320
he says to murta, I do it real good, you know,

956
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:32.400
And MYRTA responds, do what, and Riggs says, when I

957
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:34.159
was nineteen, I did a guy in Laus from a

958
00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:35.000
thousand yards out.

959
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:36.559
It was a rifle shot in a high wind.

960
00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:39.039
Maybe eight or even ten guys in the world could

961
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:40.920
have made that shot. It's the only thing I was

962
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:44.880
ever good at. Well, see you tomorrow, and then MYRTA responds,

963
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:47.719
but yes, see you and then says, hey, Riggs, you

964
00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:51.639
really like my wig my wife's cooking. Riggs takes this

965
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:56.599
extended pause just before getting the truck and says, no,

966
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:00.840
see you tomorrow. And it's just a really great scene.

967
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:03.800
And I think actually Murtaw respects his honesty in that

968
00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:08.199
final moment. I love that dialogue. I love again Gibson's

969
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:11.199
vulnerability in that or the willingness to be just straight

970
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:14.320
up with him and say, look, I understand you think

971
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:17.559
I'm crazy, but I was also not. I was just

972
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:19.360
a kid, and this is what I was good at.

973
00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:21.760
This is what I stuck with, kind of relating to

974
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:23.760
what you were saying, Bill in the previous scene. He

975
00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:25.880
does it for the job, he loves the job. It's

976
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:27.519
what he's good at. So a little bit of a

977
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.159
bonding moment, and you see the realization I think in

978
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:33.079
Murta's face. So credit to Danny Glover in the scene

979
00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:35.559
as well, where he's getting a little bit of a

980
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:39.119
better understanding of who Riggs is in his history. That's all.

981
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:41.440
Yeah, that is a fun scene. I like when Riggs

982
00:48:41.480 --> 00:48:43.880
comes to the house and we have the youngest daughter

983
00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:47.519
ask her dad if Riggs is a crook, and then

984
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:51.679
Rhiann sees Riggs for the first time and develops a crush,

985
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:55.440
which everyone notices, and then the younger siblings even make

986
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:57.239
fun of it well, and everybody has a good.

987
00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:00.599
Laugh about it. Yeah, Tracy Wolf very cute as we ain.

988
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:03.760
But yeah, it was kind of cool to see the

989
00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:07.920
behind the scenes the home cop life, A happy cop life,

990
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:11.480
not the divorce from my wife. Everything's a strange kind

991
00:49:11.519 --> 00:49:14.960
of thing. This is actually a nice household that we're

992
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:18.599
introduced to. MARTA's just trying to get to that retirement

993
00:49:18.679 --> 00:49:21.960
do his fishing, and something that he thought was going

994
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:24.800
to be simple, open and shut case could be a

995
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:26.440
little bit more complicated than they thought.

996
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:27.679
You bring up a good point.

997
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:30.519
There's nice juxtaposition and contradiction here, and you can see

998
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:33.320
it on Riggs's face when he walks into MARTA's home, like,

999
00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:36.639
holy cow, this guy actually did it. You know, he's

1000
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:39.039
married with kids and he's managed to have some sort

1001
00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:42.119
of balanced life between career and home life, et cetera.

1002
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:44.559
And he says as much. He skipped over that part.

1003
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:47.239
After they get off the boat, and you know, MARTA's

1004
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:48.880
walking Riggs to his truck.

1005
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:50.199
Riggs does turn.

1006
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:52.400
Around like, you know, you got a real nice family there,

1007
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:56.440
and you wonder what that makes Riggs feel, because Riggs

1008
00:49:56.440 --> 00:49:59.679
clearly he lives in a trailer down by the beach

1009
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:03.000
and it's just him and his dog Sam and a

1010
00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:06.639
little bit of an isolated, lonely life for Riggs versus

1011
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:07.480
what Murta has.

1012
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:10.079
Definitely what he got. Next, man, I have the gun

1013
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:14.000
range scene. I've just always loved the way the scene ends.

1014
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:17.239
So basically, they're following up from the day before talking

1015
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:21.440
about that the Amanda Hunt Sacker murder there might be

1016
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:25.360
a little bit more into it. And Riggs is explaining

1017
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:29.239
what he thinks that prostitute Dixie might be more involved

1018
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:32.159
in this than and inditionally thought, and Murtal's like, you know,

1019
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:35.079
that's kind of thin, but sure enough, so they're finished

1020
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:37.760
up in the gun range and Murtau goes to show

1021
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:41.800
off his shooting skills by doing basically a bullseye in

1022
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:45.599
the skull of those paper targets, and Riggs is going

1023
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:48.159
to show him up because he brags say he's a

1024
00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:49.840
good shot, and now he's going to show it. So

1025
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:52.480
he takes the paper target and pushes it back as

1026
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.159
far as it can go in the gun range and

1027
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:59.760
then fires off seven bullets and he has the paper

1028
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:03.440
are coming back and I love this shot, so it

1029
00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:07.480
doesn't spoil the surprise where mel gives basically cross in

1030
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:10.360
the front of the camera and blocks the paper target

1031
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:13.639
so you can't see what he did. And then right

1032
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:16.880
when it comes up, they do a reverse angle and

1033
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:22.119
you see the paper target and where Murtaw shot basically

1034
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.639
was a nose and Riggs added two eyes to it

1035
00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:30.360
and a mouth almost like a perfect perfect face, and

1036
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:34.320
then just walks off ed. Martah realizes he is as

1037
00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:36.360
good as of a shot that he says he is,

1038
00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:38.880
which is that kind of disappointing because every time Riggs

1039
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:41.960
misses someone, you're like, dude, miss anybody? Yeah, Yeah, I

1040
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:44.199
think I was kind of bummed that they spoiled that

1041
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:47.960
in one of the trailers. Oh, because I think it

1042
00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:50.679
would have definitely played better if I had not known

1043
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:54.039
at all going in what he had done with the gun,

1044
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:56.199
because you just think he's just going to center seven

1045
00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:59.000
and the fact that he puts a face on what

1046
00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:02.239
Myrtaw did with the head shot. But Murton's a good

1047
00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:05.039
shot too, and that is demonstrated in this film and

1048
00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:05.960
in the later film.

1049
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:07.880
Yeah, I love it. I was always a good, lighthearted

1050
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:08.840
one thousand percent.

1051
00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:11.360
I was just torn between every sequence in this movie

1052
00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:14.199
as to which was my favorite. It's a classic moment

1053
00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:16.119
and a couple things.

1054
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:16.519
One.

1055
00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:19.360
First of all, you could make an argument that they

1056
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:23.679
both equally are great shots because Murtaw does a quick

1057
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:27.199
draw in fires and nails the target right in the

1058
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:31.079
middle of the head, So that's impressive. It's just obviously

1059
00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:33.360
Riggs takes it to a whole nother level by pushing

1060
00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:35.119
the target all the way but the back of the

1061
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:39.000
range and then doing the face. But Riggs takes aim

1062
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:42.079
and then fires, So you could make an argument that

1063
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:45.239
they both exemplified their prowess there. They showed off their

1064
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:48.639
prowess there. But it's so fun because Riggs. Just again,

1065
00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:51.199
Mel Gibson, when he's humming the whole time is the

1066
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:53.840
target's moving back here. He's just humming that TV show

1067
00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:56.039
theme or whatever it was. Gibson's great, but you're right,

1068
00:52:56.079 --> 00:52:58.159
I love that choreography when he crosses in front, so

1069
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:00.559
you don't see the smile and the smile face until

1070
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:02.599
the very end. Here's another thing that makes me think

1071
00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:05.119
of is the fact that you get these movies that

1072
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:08.480
may not be entirely original, whether it could be any

1073
00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:10.719
kind of movie in any kind of genre, but there's

1074
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:13.119
one movie that does it better than the rest. And

1075
00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:15.280
this is one of the many reasons why Lethal Weapon

1076
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:18.400
is great. For instance, we've seen many a scene in

1077
00:53:18.440 --> 00:53:22.000
films when someone is distraught, despondent and is about to

1078
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:25.519
attempt suicide. The way mel Gibson does it in this

1079
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:28.760
film is one of the most impactful scenes I've seen

1080
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:31.760
in cinema. It always resonates with me when I think

1081
00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:34.000
of this movie, I'm like, oh, man, when he points

1082
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:35.360
it at his face and then he puts it under

1083
00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:37.159
his chin and he's looking at it the picture of

1084
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:39.599
his wife, and it's just it's awful, and the tears

1085
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:42.840
are flowing It's truly awful, and I've seen it done

1086
00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:44.800
so many other times, but for whatever reason, this is

1087
00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:46.840
the most convincing one. Now when it comes to like

1088
00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:48.480
the shooting range. How many times have you seen a

1089
00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:51.480
shooting range sequence in a movie, especially like eighties movies,

1090
00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:54.159
any movie? Oh yeah, this is probably up there and

1091
00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:55.679
number one number two. I was going to ask you,

1092
00:53:55.920 --> 00:54:00.320
would you choose this or RoboCop the shooting scene that's

1093
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:02.639
a pretty fun one, too very quick, but this, I

1094
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:04.920
would definitely choose this one. But it made me think

1095
00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:07.599
of Robo Cop. And I know there's shooting range sequences

1096
00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:10.800
in Beverly Hills Cop two, but I just think there

1097
00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:13.559
are elements they do. They just do it better and

1098
00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:15.840
that's all, even if it's not the first time you've

1099
00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:18.239
seen it in cinema. So maybe think of that.

1100
00:54:18.599 --> 00:54:19.880
Yeah, all right, I.

1101
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:22.639
Think we're going back to me. Another favorite scene is

1102
00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:28.239
the Rigs torture scene with Ali Young as Endo Yikes.

1103
00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:33.239
So Riggs and Marta have been captured because McCallister needs

1104
00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:36.280
to know what they know about the shipment of heroin

1105
00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:38.639
that is coming in. That's what we find out. What

1106
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:41.840
the Shadow Company is doing is basically importing Heroin. They

1107
00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:44.639
do two large shipments a year, and they want to

1108
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:47.159
make sure that the cops don't stop them for the

1109
00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:50.800
second one. So they want to know what they know

1110
00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:53.360
and who they've told. So that's why they just don't

1111
00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:56.079
outright kill them because they're not sure if anybody else

1112
00:54:56.119 --> 00:54:58.719
knows what is going on. So we basically have mel

1113
00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:02.079
Gibson strung up by arms about a foot in the

1114
00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:05.679
air and he's being doused in water and he's talking

1115
00:55:05.760 --> 00:55:09.519
to Joshua and Joshua is basically telling him, Yeah, you're

1116
00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:11.920
gonna tell us what you know, and mel Gibbson is like, dude,

1117
00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:14.159
I'm telling you what I know. We really know nothing.

1118
00:55:14.199 --> 00:55:16.239
All we know that Heroin's coming in and that's it.

1119
00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:18.440
And Joshua's like, well, I don't believe you, so we

1120
00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:20.559
need to find out. So we have Ally young as

1121
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:24.320
Endo basically has these two leads that run to a

1122
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:29.519
battery and is shocking literally shocking shock treatment. Mel Gibson

1123
00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:31.559
is not trying to act like the tough guy and

1124
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:35.000
withstand the pain. He is screaming and howling. He's trying

1125
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:38.159
to headbutt Joshua or Alf they get too close to him.

1126
00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:40.880
Trying to kick and scream. There's a part where riggsism

1127
00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:43.559
is swinging like a pendulum and Joshua keeps trying to

1128
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:47.559
push him into Endo to keep the shock treatments, and

1129
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:49.480
he'll have his hands on him too long and he'll

1130
00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:51.800
feel some of the effect of the shock. And we

1131
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:55.360
do get to the point where Endo then says he

1132
00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:57.480
doesn't know anything. He would have talked by now there's

1133
00:55:57.519 --> 00:56:00.519
no way, so Joshua leaves him and say as well,

1134
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:04.840
finish him off. Endo is basically just going to electrocute him,

1135
00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:08.840
and it looks like Riggs is exhausted, but he kicks

1136
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:13.360
Endo basically wraps his legs around his neck and snaps

1137
00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:16.360
it and then still has the strength to pull himself

1138
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:19.280
off the rig and escape and try to find Martal.

1139
00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:23.599
I can only imagine going through that kind of torture, man.

1140
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:25.719
I would have made up a story at that point

1141
00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:27.920
something like that was going to happen.

1142
00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:30.440
To me, no doubt about it. This is one of

1143
00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:34.519
the most memorable sequences, and it just goes in line

1144
00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:36.840
with what I was just saying. There have been torture

1145
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:40.440
sequences in several movies over the years, and even it

1146
00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:42.800
just makes me think of something very similar to this

1147
00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:45.480
with Tango and Cash. One of my other cult favorite

1148
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:48.719
eighties movies of all time Kurt Russell and Stallone. They're

1149
00:56:48.760 --> 00:56:51.119
hanging in a pool of water in a prison and

1150
00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:54.480
they're being electrocuted. But this is the movie that does

1151
00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:57.599
it the best because again Mel Gibson, and he is

1152
00:56:57.639 --> 00:57:01.039
in so much pain it literally hurts to watch the scene.

1153
00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:03.519
You can't help but put yourself in his position, the

1154
00:57:03.559 --> 00:57:06.320
way he's yelling out and screaming out every time he's

1155
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:09.280
being shocked, and you're right, the little touches, the fact

1156
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:12.400
that literally little touches when mister Joshua was touching him

1157
00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:15.159
and feeling the shock as well. So it's horrible. It's

1158
00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:19.760
horrible to almost endure this with Rigs. But yeah, when

1159
00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:22.079
he kicks Endo's ass at the end, it's just fantastic

1160
00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:24.679
and he gets himself off the hook and jumps down

1161
00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:25.280
and you're like.

1162
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:26.320
Oh shit.

1163
00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:31.000
And then right afterward he goes to the other area

1164
00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:34.880
of that warehouse facility and just wipes everybody out.

1165
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:36.320
Rigs bad ass.

1166
00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:40.039
On a side note, I've unfortunately almost experienced something like this.

1167
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:42.719
I was a kid and we had a backyard pool

1168
00:57:42.960 --> 00:57:45.000
and I went to turn on the light in our

1169
00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:49.079
garage and there was a metal plate, Oh shit for

1170
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:52.400
the light switch, and the wire was touching the plate

1171
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:54.320
and I accidentally touched a plate when I would touch

1172
00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:57.199
the switch, and I got zapped. I felt that for

1173
00:57:57.280 --> 00:57:59.840
a good ten minutes afterwards, and then I have, of course,

1174
00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:02.280
my mom and my dad had to replace the plate,

1175
00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:05.679
thank god. So I mean that was literally a millisecond,

1176
00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:08.960
and I could still remember what that felt like. So

1177
00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:11.760
for mel Gibson to go through that where it's literally

1178
00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:14.039
placed on him for seconds at a time, I can

1179
00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:17.440
only like almost would have to crap himself and piss

1180
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:17.920
himself out.

1181
00:58:18.039 --> 00:58:18.280
Cowl.

1182
00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:21.039
Yeah, there's a you literally feel it through your whole body.

1183
00:58:21.159 --> 00:58:23.559
Was one of the weirdest sensations I ever had. And

1184
00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:25.440
luckily I was able to get my hand off as

1185
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:26.679
quick because I did no kidding.

1186
00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:28.920
Did you say you had gotten out of the pool,

1187
00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:31.519
so you were wet, Your hand was still wet when

1188
00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:32.360
you touched the plate.

1189
00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:35.039
I was completely wet from head to chow. And we

1190
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:37.440
kind of knew sometimes you'd get a shock. The switch

1191
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:39.960
was plastic, so you just try to hit the switch.

1192
00:58:40.280 --> 00:58:43.280
But my finger touched the plate at the same time,

1193
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:47.719
and it was just like what damn? And I was

1194
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:49.719
stunned for a while, and then I ran up and

1195
00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:52.119
told my mom what had happened, and then she of

1196
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:54.639
course yelled at my dad because we had known about

1197
00:58:54.679 --> 00:58:57.039
this and never did anything about it. So that got

1198
00:58:57.079 --> 00:59:02.199
replaced right away. Billy, that's amazing. I'm glad you're still alive. Also,

1199
00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:04.440
I'm glad they've fixed it too, so nobody.

1200
00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:04.719
Else got hurt.

1201
00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:06.960
But from now on, if you ever watched this movie

1202
00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:08.760
with someone else, whether it be your wife or a

1203
00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:11.480
friend or whomever, when that scene comes on, you should

1204
00:59:11.519 --> 00:59:12.920
just act like the ultimate tough guy.

1205
00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:14.519
And be like, yeah, I know what that feels like,

1206
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:22.679
been there and done it rough, Like really what? Yeah?

1207
00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:24.920
That was a good touched a light switch?

1208
00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:27.159
Great stuff? Man? Am I up next?

1209
00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:27.679
Yes?

1210
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:31.159
All right, my next scene. I'm entitling now I'm running

1211
00:59:31.159 --> 00:59:34.880
with a machine gun. Hole ho ho, or it should

1212
00:59:34.920 --> 00:59:38.199
be huff huff huff, because he is huffing it. I

1213
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:43.159
get so excited every time this sequence begins, and it's

1214
00:59:43.199 --> 00:59:46.159
basically right after the torture sequence, when Riggs has come

1215
00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:50.840
out and kicked everybody's ass and rescues Merta and Rheanne,

1216
00:59:51.239 --> 00:59:54.760
And now we realize that this warehouse area that they've

1217
00:59:54.760 --> 00:59:58.400
been torturing and is attached to this nightclub which is

1218
00:59:58.440 --> 01:00:02.119
the front for Shadow Company, his whole operation. And I

1219
01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:05.400
love the fact that Riggs and Merton Rhiann are all

1220
01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:08.599
beat to hell and they attempt to walk through the

1221
01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:11.960
club to the exterior as if everything's fine, like nobody

1222
01:00:11.960 --> 01:00:14.119
will notice. And you can see extras are starting to

1223
01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:16.119
look at them, because of course they they are calling

1224
01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:18.239
attention to themselves just by the way they look. And

1225
01:00:18.280 --> 01:00:20.719
then a whole gunfight ensues in the club. But the

1226
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:24.239
bottom line is they exit the club and mister Joshua

1227
01:00:24.280 --> 01:00:26.679
has gotten into a vehicle and is making a run

1228
01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:30.159
for it, and Riggs ain't having it. Riggs has gotten

1229
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:33.239
himself a machine gun. He's got it the strap over

1230
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:36.280
his shoulder. His shirt's torn open or wide open, and

1231
01:00:36.280 --> 01:00:39.119
he's in his pants and white gym shoes, his white

1232
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:42.360
tennis and Riggs is gonna run.

1233
01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:43.880
And it's awesome.

1234
01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:47.599
We just get Martin Riggs chasing mister Joshua's driving car

1235
01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:51.719
through the LA streets, the glistening streets of Los Angeles

1236
01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:55.800
at night, and you just have a blast watching melt

1237
01:00:55.840 --> 01:00:58.920
Gibson sprint and fire has gotten it. At some point

1238
01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:01.639
he's like on an overpath looking down and he catches

1239
01:01:01.679 --> 01:01:04.400
mister Joshua caught up on a street and fires down

1240
01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:07.400
into like blowing holes into the hood of the car,

1241
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:10.360
which then sets on fire, and mister Joshua runs into

1242
01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:14.199
a light pole and has to change cars. It's just awesome,

1243
01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:17.039
and you have the Michael Caman score in the background

1244
01:01:17.079 --> 01:01:19.599
to back it all up. I can't get enough of

1245
01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:22.920
Martin Riggs running down a street with a machine gun

1246
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:26.360
and chasing and catching up to somebody driving a car,

1247
01:01:26.599 --> 01:01:29.639
which in this case makes sense if it's la because

1248
01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:31.719
you would get stuck at every turn and in traffic

1249
01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:35.719
and whatever. So can't get enough. It's a total adrenaline rush.

1250
01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:39.440
And as soon as it starts, Bill on this rewatch.

1251
01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:42.440
And I've seen this movie several times. I was amped,

1252
01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:46.239
i was smiling, and I'm like, I love movies just

1253
01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:49.519
for this shit. Man, That's all I gotta say. Man, oh,

1254
01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:52.280
by the other way, the other way, go ahead, yeah,

1255
01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:52.920
go ahead, man.

1256
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:55.320
I I mean we always talk about Tom Cruise and

1257
01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:59.480
is running yes, but I'm like, no, this tops anything

1258
01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:03.280
that cruised. I fucking love the fact he's running literally

1259
01:02:03.320 --> 01:02:06.360
down the middle of the street Hollywood Boulevard with the

1260
01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:08.559
machine gun, just haul an ass.

1261
01:02:08.760 --> 01:02:12.679
It's like like every boy's dream of an action sequence,

1262
01:02:12.719 --> 01:02:14.480
Like you just want to do that just to see

1263
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:18.000
what it feels like. I don't know, it's ridiculous and awesome,

1264
01:02:18.079 --> 01:02:20.280
but I totally agree, and I wrote down the exact

1265
01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:23.079
same note. This is what I wrote here verbatim. There's

1266
01:02:23.079 --> 01:02:25.599
those that talk a lot about how good Tom Cruise

1267
01:02:25.639 --> 01:02:28.320
is running in movies. Well, I'd say Mel Gibson gives

1268
01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:31.360
him a run for his money, because this is the best.

1269
01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:32.920
I so agree.

1270
01:02:33.199 --> 01:02:35.719
Moments that I just love in this movie is Rigs

1271
01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:37.840
firing a gun and Rigs running.

1272
01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:41.039
I just love him both. He's so intense.

1273
01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:43.239
I almost just want to go out and start running.

1274
01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:45.800
It makes me want to run. How much I love courages.

1275
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:47.719
You just just go outside and start sprinting down the

1276
01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:49.360
street for whatever reason.

1277
01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:52.480
Anytime I would run really fast, that's the image that

1278
01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:55.400
would be in my head, is Mel Gibson running down

1279
01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:57.239
the street, Like if I run track, That's what I

1280
01:02:57.280 --> 01:02:57.880
would think about.

1281
01:02:58.199 --> 01:02:59.679
The one last time and I'll make about that is

1282
01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:03.239
the fact that we talk about Gibson's intensity, right, is

1283
01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:07.480
that with his character he's so spontaneous in the way

1284
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:11.440
that he doesn't hold back at all. He's all or nothing.

1285
01:03:11.440 --> 01:03:14.159
It's go big or go hump. So he's like myrta.

1286
01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:16.800
He may say murtaw you okay, but then he just

1287
01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:19.039
takes off. It's like, what are you doing? Why would

1288
01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:22.760
you even try to run after a car? He doesn't care. No,

1289
01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:25.360
he's got one mission and he's just a bowl in

1290
01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:25.960
a china shop.

1291
01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:26.599
It's awesome.

1292
01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:32.960
Time to flip it, get into little Swiss cheese and

1293
01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:35.679
complaint department and what do we call it swiss cheese?

1294
01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:38.559
Because although this movie is delicious, it does have smiley

1295
01:03:38.559 --> 01:03:40.079
face shooting target holes.

1296
01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:43.599
Yes, it doesn't have those smiley face shooting target holes.

1297
01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:47.039
We just file complaint with the complaint department. All right, Jason,

1298
01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:47.480
what do you have?

1299
01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:48.639
I only have a couple.

1300
01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:48.960
Man.

1301
01:03:49.159 --> 01:03:51.400
I've talked about some nippicky stuff I had earlier, but

1302
01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:55.920
with this my first one is interrupting Dad in the bath.

1303
01:03:56.599 --> 01:04:00.800
I yes, always bother. It's right right in the beginning.

1304
01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:01.960
Yeah, why do you want to say?

1305
01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:06.840
This is literally our introduction to Roger Murta. The first

1306
01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:10.159
shot is of him in the bathtub in the morning.

1307
01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:14.400
He's soaking, he's having a soak and it's his birthday,

1308
01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:17.760
it's his fiftieth birthday. And the fam, the fan bam

1309
01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:21.519
decides to burst in to wish him happy birthday. And

1310
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:25.559
I'm like, these aren't like little baby toddler kids and

1311
01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:30.440
the wife. It's like a teenage daughter and two older

1312
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:33.079
kids I don't know, six, seven, eight, not whatever, and

1313
01:04:33.159 --> 01:04:35.119
the wife and they're all hanging out with him. He's

1314
01:04:35.320 --> 01:04:38.079
naked in the bathtub and they're hugging on him and

1315
01:04:38.119 --> 01:04:41.960
kissing him, Like this is not appropriate at all? What

1316
01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:42.559
are you doing?

1317
01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:44.519
And he's not bothered by it. Is it at least

1318
01:04:44.559 --> 01:04:46.960
having a bubble bath? Or is he at least got

1319
01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:48.840
the wash cloth over his jung now?

1320
01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:52.599
No, Nope, Like, oh it's.

1321
01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:55.800
That kind of family. Yeah. I always found that weird too.

1322
01:04:56.119 --> 01:04:57.119
That was my first complaint.

1323
01:04:57.159 --> 01:04:57.880
What do you got man?

1324
01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:00.159
Too many people telling Riggsy's crazy?

1325
01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:00.840
Okay?

1326
01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:03.239
That was starting to drive me up the wall. I'm like, Okay,

1327
01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:06.960
we get it. It's been established the guys on Edge,

1328
01:05:07.239 --> 01:05:09.760
but I just feel like they almost had to overemphasize.

1329
01:05:09.760 --> 01:05:11.559
Everyone had to tell him that he was crazy. In

1330
01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:14.639
the first twenty minutes of the movie. Enough enough, we know,

1331
01:05:15.159 --> 01:05:17.519
let's just keep moving along, move along. We know he's crazy,

1332
01:05:17.559 --> 01:05:19.880
we know there's something off about him. It was getting

1333
01:05:19.880 --> 01:05:22.840
on my nerves. And I also watched the supposed director Scott,

1334
01:05:22.840 --> 01:05:24.679
which is not really a director's cut, and it has

1335
01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:28.159
an additional scene in the beginning when Riggs stops a

1336
01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:30.960
school shooter, which got to think about it, back in

1337
01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:34.840
that time, that which seem such a crazy concept. Unfortunately

1338
01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:37.920
it's not that way anymore. And how many people in

1339
01:05:37.920 --> 01:05:39.800
that scene had to tell him that he was crazy also,

1340
01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:42.880
And I was like, all right, enough, enough crazy talk.

1341
01:05:42.920 --> 01:05:45.519
And to think Shane Black actually wrote him even crazier

1342
01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:48.320
in the original draft I had read in that school

1343
01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:51.840
shooting that's in that director's cut. Originally he was written

1344
01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:54.559
to have taken out the sniper with a bazooka, like

1345
01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:58.159
with a rocket launcher. Oh yeah, there's Shane Black first,

1346
01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:01.400
it's on that. But you're right, it's a It is

1347
01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:03.559
a bit of a trope too, as it turns out,

1348
01:06:03.639 --> 01:06:07.880
because it is annoying, especially on rewatch when you're like, okay, yeah,

1349
01:06:07.960 --> 01:06:10.559
got it, got it, he's crazy, We got it, got it?

1350
01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:15.039
So it's a thing and it's still being done today. Yeah,

1351
01:06:15.079 --> 01:06:17.480
the here's my only other complaint as of now before

1352
01:06:17.519 --> 01:06:19.880
I unless I think of something else that you might

1353
01:06:19.920 --> 01:06:24.039
trigger me with. But uh Riggs in Murtauk go to

1354
01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:28.920
question Michael Huntsacker again. Well, this is actually the first interrogation,

1355
01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:31.119
but it's the second scene where they're talking to Michael

1356
01:06:31.159 --> 01:06:36.079
Huntsacker and it's it is at his home overlooking the ocean.

1357
01:06:36.119 --> 01:06:40.440
It's quite the waterfront property. And I realized upon this,

1358
01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:42.679
I don't know why I didn't catch this before, but

1359
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:48.400
this is his daughter's memorial service and they're questioning him

1360
01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:51.280
in the middle of the memorial service. So I was like,

1361
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:54.679
you couldn't wait until the end to talk to him.

1362
01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:57.960
I was like, what the hell, that's the first time, Like,

1363
01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:01.159
why are they talking to him? This is a really

1364
01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:04.079
somber moment for him. And anyway, that was it.

1365
01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:06.400
Oh, this one bothered me a lot because this used

1366
01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:08.039
to be one of my favorite scenes and then this

1367
01:07:08.159 --> 01:07:13.079
kind of got ruined by mister Mendez played by Edo Ross.

1368
01:07:13.480 --> 01:07:15.280
And it's kind of the first time that we meet

1369
01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:22.039
McAllister right, and Mendes some kind of drug lord or whatever.

1370
01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:27.880
He's the biggest fucking pussy and he's so annoying. Oh

1371
01:07:28.159 --> 01:07:31.679
you guys are all psycho, you're all. I used to

1372
01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:34.400
love that scene with the lighter, right, of course, because

1373
01:07:34.400 --> 01:07:36.840
I like mcowister in that and he's like, do you smoke?

1374
01:07:37.199 --> 01:07:39.800
Do you smoke? And then he grabs the lighter and

1375
01:07:39.800 --> 01:07:42.280
he's like shut up, and then lights the letter and

1376
01:07:42.280 --> 01:07:44.840
then has Joshua pulled out his forearm and then lights

1377
01:07:44.840 --> 01:07:47.239
on them. But that scene now is ruined by that

1378
01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:51.559
Mendes character because once again it overstates the fact.

1379
01:07:51.360 --> 01:07:52.719
Like these guys are crazy.

1380
01:07:52.840 --> 01:07:54.639
These are guys that we got to worry about.

1381
01:07:54.679 --> 01:07:56.119
These are our bad guys.

1382
01:07:56.280 --> 01:08:01.400
Oh my god, they're so bad right playing straight, that

1383
01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:04.000
was it, Yeah, and he had to play it over

1384
01:08:04.039 --> 01:08:04.400
the top.

1385
01:08:04.519 --> 01:08:06.159
It just killed the scene for me.

1386
01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:09.239
That's an interesting when you say that now you're absolutely

1387
01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:11.760
right this again that trope of like we've got to

1388
01:08:11.760 --> 01:08:14.519
make sure the audience knows these got not only are

1389
01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:17.199
these bad guys the bad guys, but they're really bad.

1390
01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:20.479
And I've always loved the scene because it makes mister

1391
01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:23.000
Joshua look like a total badass and he demonstrates his

1392
01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:26.000
loyalty mctoo. McAllister and that he will do anything that

1393
01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:28.960
mcckelster instructs him to do and go to any lengths.

1394
01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:29.199
Right.

1395
01:08:29.319 --> 01:08:31.840
But and that's actually the one scene where I think

1396
01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:35.960
I actually like General McAllister character, where he comes off as.

1397
01:08:36.039 --> 01:08:37.079
Oh, yeah, I think he's cool.

1398
01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:42.319
Now, yeah, but you're right, it's really really overdone, overcooked.

1399
01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:44.319
And then just as a kid trying to figure out

1400
01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:47.279
how they do that, not knowing about forced respective and

1401
01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:49.680
prop forearm and that kind of that's true.

1402
01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:53.800
And I was like, dude, that is so cool magic movies.

1403
01:08:54.239 --> 01:08:56.760
Yep, anything else, I'm tapped out already. Man, I got

1404
01:08:56.760 --> 01:08:58.399
nothing else except for that, you know, some of those

1405
01:08:58.439 --> 01:09:01.560
silly silly gas we'd already met and catching some of

1406
01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:04.920
the adr. But uh, I'm just not gonna nitpick it anymore.

1407
01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:07.319
I love this movie. So I got no other major complaints.

1408
01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:09.439
Okay, Yeah, Like I said, my other one was the

1409
01:09:09.720 --> 01:09:12.439
song for the closing credits, So let's move on.

1410
01:09:13.760 --> 01:09:19.680
Even love can become lead the weapon boom boom boom

1411
01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:21.920
boom boom boom boom boom.

1412
01:09:22.359 --> 01:09:22.800
There you go.

1413
01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:24.960
That rendition I just did was much better than the

1414
01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:25.560
song itself.

1415
01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:28.279
That's how bad it is. I agree.

1416
01:09:28.880 --> 01:09:32.479
See if Joshua had kidnapped me. All they want to

1417
01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:33.720
do is put me in a room and play that

1418
01:09:33.800 --> 01:09:36.760
song over over again. That's the you don't need endo,

1419
01:09:37.079 --> 01:09:38.319
just I'll tell you what you need.

1420
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:41.000
Don't play. Just don't play that fucking song one more time.

1421
01:09:41.640 --> 01:09:42.520
I love it all right.

1422
01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:46.039
Time to move on to Hey, it's that actor. So

1423
01:09:46.079 --> 01:09:48.199
in the segment, we spotlight a character actor you have

1424
01:09:48.239 --> 01:09:50.680
seen in many other films, an actor making their big

1425
01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:53.880
screen debut, or an actor that makes an uncredited cameo.

1426
01:09:54.119 --> 01:09:56.880
Let's hey, it's that actor. Who do we choose this week?

1427
01:09:57.079 --> 01:10:00.159
Well, Bill Bant, this week we choose someone all all

1428
01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:02.600
too appropriate in this moment because you were just talking

1429
01:10:02.640 --> 01:10:06.479
about him. I chose ed O Ross, who plays Mendes

1430
01:10:07.399 --> 01:10:12.159
No love it. Oh it's fantastic. Yeah, in the beginning

1431
01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:14.319
of the film. Yeah, he's the buyer that meets with

1432
01:10:14.359 --> 01:10:18.039
mister Joshua, our introduction to mister Joshua and then general

1433
01:10:18.079 --> 01:10:23.159
McAllister fantastic. It's the cigarette lighter scene. Hilarious. Man ed

1434
01:10:23.159 --> 01:10:27.199
O Ross, though immediately identifiable as Hey, it's that actor.

1435
01:10:27.439 --> 01:10:30.760
He's a character actor from Pittsburgh, a bit type cast

1436
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:34.000
as rougher around the edge, of characters, has a deep

1437
01:10:34.039 --> 01:10:37.359
gravelly voices from IMDb some of his trademarks. Often plays

1438
01:10:37.399 --> 01:10:41.119
Russian characters and was a former Golden Gloves boxing champ.

1439
01:10:41.319 --> 01:10:44.239
It turns out here's his eighties highlights. The Pope of

1440
01:10:44.279 --> 01:10:46.920
Greenwich Village. He plays a bartender, and that's an eighty

1441
01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:48.840
four he was in the Cotton Club also in eighty four.

1442
01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:52.079
Does a little TV, including a couple episodes Moonlighting. He's

1443
01:10:52.119 --> 01:10:55.359
in this Leath Weapon in eighty seven. Then he's Lieutenant

1444
01:10:55.439 --> 01:10:59.119
Touchdown in full metal Jacket. Also in eighty seven. We

1445
01:10:59.760 --> 01:11:02.600
here on the All Eighties Movies podcast Know him from

1446
01:11:02.880 --> 01:11:05.800
the Hidden Also in nineteen eighty seven, he had a

1447
01:11:05.800 --> 01:11:08.039
great nineteen eighty seven. He was in Action Jackson in

1448
01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:10.239
nineteen eighty eight. Can't wait to do that at some point.

1449
01:11:10.399 --> 01:11:14.279
Oh yes, and I personally always think of him in

1450
01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:18.039
Red Heat. Also in ninety nineteen eighty eight, the James

1451
01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:22.000
Blushiy Schwarzenegger film. Other notables would be another forty eight Hours,

1452
01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:24.680
Dick Tracy, he plays Itchy and Dick Tracy. He's a

1453
01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:30.359
Universal Soldier. He's in another Midnight Run in nineteen ninety four,

1454
01:11:30.439 --> 01:11:34.840
the TV movie sequel Oh God, and guess who he plays,

1455
01:11:35.159 --> 01:11:36.119
Marvin Dorfler.

1456
01:11:36.439 --> 01:11:38.520
Okay, how about that? Right?

1457
01:11:38.920 --> 01:11:40.880
I bet he's better than that than he is on

1458
01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:42.640
the Weapon, let's hope.

1459
01:11:42.680 --> 01:11:45.199
So. And then he does a bunch of TV, including

1460
01:11:45.239 --> 01:11:48.960
seventeen episodes of Six Feet Under as Nikolai, So you

1461
01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:51.279
might know him from that show. But that's all I got.

1462
01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:55.439
Edo Ross familiar face, he's our Hey it's that actor

1463
01:11:55.479 --> 01:12:00.319
this week? Yes, hilarious. You're just tearing him apart, like no.

1464
01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:04.159
This is ok. Yeah, guess what. I love this.

1465
01:12:04.600 --> 01:12:07.319
That's all good though, But that's a good list of credits.

1466
01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:10.000
Yeah. Man, he's a very familiar He's in a lot

1467
01:12:10.039 --> 01:12:11.680
of my big eighties movies.

1468
01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:14.720
Yeah, but he is the definition of that category. He's

1469
01:12:14.720 --> 01:12:17.159
a hey, it's that actor, all right. Time to move

1470
01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:19.720
on to facts and trivia. So what are some facts

1471
01:12:19.720 --> 01:12:21.840
of trivia we have on Lethal Weapon?

1472
01:12:22.119 --> 01:12:25.039
Yeah, let's talk about Shane Black for a moment. And

1473
01:12:25.079 --> 01:12:27.640
we've been talking about Mel Gibson's intensity. How about Shane

1474
01:12:27.640 --> 01:12:30.439
Black's intensity? This is just great. Shane Black, his first

1475
01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:32.960
draft of Lethal Weapon, which he wrote sometime in eighty five,

1476
01:12:33.079 --> 01:12:35.880
is much different. First draft was one hundred and forty

1477
01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:38.640
pages long. It was much darker, had alternate plot parts,

1478
01:12:38.760 --> 01:12:41.600
character scenes, action sequences, many other differences, like an entire

1479
01:12:41.680 --> 01:12:44.239
ending which had a big chase scene including a police

1480
01:12:44.239 --> 01:12:48.279
helicopter which gets blown up by Joshua who fires a

1481
01:12:48.399 --> 01:12:51.000
napal missile at it, causing it to crash into the

1482
01:12:51.000 --> 01:12:54.439
Hollywood Sign and start a huge fire. And that Murtaw

1483
01:12:55.039 --> 01:12:58.439
is killing General Missus McCallister while he's driving a trailer

1484
01:12:58.520 --> 01:13:01.520
truck full of heroin and gununs, which then crashes and

1485
01:13:01.560 --> 01:13:06.199
explodes over the Hollywood Hills, causing heroin to start snowing

1486
01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:10.600
over the burning Hollywood Sign. And then you have Rigs

1487
01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:15.479
killing Joshua by stabbing his fingers through Joshua's eye right

1488
01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:20.279
into his brain. Wow, that sounds pretty intense. I want

1489
01:13:20.279 --> 01:13:21.319
to read this draft man.

1490
01:13:21.680 --> 01:13:24.720
Yeah, all right, since you brought up Shane Black, So

1491
01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:28.960
the name Shadow Company, the ex special forces unit mentioned

1492
01:13:28.960 --> 01:13:32.079
in litha Weapon, actually comes from the title of the

1493
01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:36.119
very first script Shane Black wrote back in nineteen eighty four.

1494
01:13:36.479 --> 01:13:39.439
While Shadow Company was never produced, the script made a

1495
01:13:39.479 --> 01:13:43.880
strong impression around Hollywood industry. Readers loved black sharp dialogue

1496
01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:47.199
and kinetic approach to action, and that buzz quickly led

1497
01:13:47.239 --> 01:13:51.000
to more writing opportunities, so that momentum is what ultimately

1498
01:13:51.039 --> 01:13:53.479
allowed Black to write the first draft of Leepal Weapon

1499
01:13:53.520 --> 01:13:57.920
in nineteen eighty five. Interestingly enough, Shadow Company was a

1500
01:13:58.079 --> 01:14:02.079
very different kind of project, an action horror film with

1501
01:14:02.399 --> 01:14:05.800
zombie elements. The story centered on a group of Special

1502
01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:10.039
Forces soldiers who died during the Vietnam War and mysteriously

1503
01:14:10.159 --> 01:14:13.880
returned years later after their bodies were brought back home.

1504
01:14:14.199 --> 01:14:16.359
I'm just kind of like a universal soldiers.

1505
01:14:16.039 --> 01:14:18.199
Kind of fell to it. It's great, man, and I

1506
01:14:18.199 --> 01:14:20.399
think you can find that script online. That's cool.

1507
01:14:20.640 --> 01:14:23.640
Yeah, love me some Shane black Man. Yeah, he goes

1508
01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:27.640
for it. We've been talking about the crossover with Diehard.

1509
01:14:27.960 --> 01:14:28.199
Well.

1510
01:14:28.520 --> 01:14:31.119
Bruce Willis was approached for the role of Riggs, but

1511
01:14:31.159 --> 01:14:33.239
turned it down as he found the script quote unquote

1512
01:14:33.439 --> 01:14:37.520
too violent. What this is referenced in the spoof of

1513
01:14:37.720 --> 01:14:41.279
the Lethal Weapon films and Loaded Weapon one. Bruce Willis

1514
01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:44.359
as John McClain appears after the villains attack the wrong

1515
01:14:44.399 --> 01:14:48.000
Beach residents looking for the protagonists. Christopher Lambert and Christopher

1516
01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:51.640
Reeve were both approached for the role, but neither was interested.

1517
01:14:51.960 --> 01:14:55.199
Michael Bean was also a brief contender to play Riggs,

1518
01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:57.640
as Donner enjoyed his performance in the Terminator, but he

1519
01:14:57.680 --> 01:15:00.760
was already committed to Aliens. Other actors considered for the role,

1520
01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:03.840
where Pierce brosn' ste even laying round Perlman, Michael Newry,

1521
01:15:04.319 --> 01:15:07.439
Sylvester Stalone, Patrick Swayze, Michael Douglas, Jeff Goldblum, and Kurt

1522
01:15:07.520 --> 01:15:12.760
Russell supposedly allegedly you never quite know, but some of

1523
01:15:12.760 --> 01:15:14.359
those makes sense to me. So.

1524
01:15:14.680 --> 01:15:19.319
Jackie Swanson, who played Amanda Hunt Sacker, did perform the

1525
01:15:19.560 --> 01:15:24.159
high fall on her own, trained by legendary stuntman Dar Robinson,

1526
01:15:24.239 --> 01:15:27.560
who we have mentioned in previous episodes. Also, the stunt

1527
01:15:27.600 --> 01:15:30.960
was done using an airbag covered with a life size

1528
01:15:31.039 --> 01:15:35.319
painting of the driveway and cars, which like a four

1529
01:15:35.439 --> 01:15:38.880
round miniature, visually blends into the real scene. Thus the

1530
01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:42.319
editor is able to hold a shot until Justice makes

1531
01:15:42.359 --> 01:15:45.920
contact with the airbag for greater realism.

1532
01:15:45.960 --> 01:15:46.960
That's crazy.

1533
01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:50.960
Then, of course, director Richard Donner dedicated.

1534
01:15:50.520 --> 01:15:53.319
The film to him, Dar Robinson, But yeah, he did

1535
01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:56.840
tragically pass away, like right after they finished filming in

1536
01:15:56.840 --> 01:15:59.600
this movie. And then another crazy thing I found out

1537
01:15:59.680 --> 01:16:03.000
Jackie Swanson Amanda Hunt Sacker. You know, we get some

1538
01:16:03.039 --> 01:16:09.319
eighty boobs from was in Cheers. She was Woody Harrelse's girlfriend.

1539
01:16:09.159 --> 01:16:10.560
Like the little cute way.

1540
01:16:11.239 --> 01:16:14.880
I'm like, wow, talk about a contrast of characters.

1541
01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:19.399
Oh yeah, absolutely because she Oh that's so great because

1542
01:16:19.479 --> 01:16:21.840
just recently my dad's been watching it. One of the

1543
01:16:21.840 --> 01:16:24.239
streaming services has it and he's been watching Cheers, and

1544
01:16:24.279 --> 01:16:26.479
so he'll want to watch when I'm there on vacation.

1545
01:16:26.520 --> 01:16:27.479
We want to watch an episode.

1546
01:16:27.479 --> 01:16:27.680
Two.

1547
01:16:27.800 --> 01:16:30.000
We watched some of those episodes with her, and I'd

1548
01:16:30.039 --> 01:16:31.520
had no, I wasn't thinking about that.

1549
01:16:31.840 --> 01:16:34.039
Nope, she would never have put that together.

1550
01:16:34.199 --> 01:16:36.680
She's great on the show. Her and Woody Harrelson. They're

1551
01:16:36.880 --> 01:16:37.960
very funny episodes.

1552
01:16:38.199 --> 01:16:41.600
Uh with her. That's great. Love that show. Great call man.

1553
01:16:42.319 --> 01:16:45.279
So there are listeners out there who might be pulling

1554
01:16:45.319 --> 01:16:48.239
their hair out at this time, going, why didn't you

1555
01:16:48.319 --> 01:16:51.640
talk about the final fight sequence in your favorite scenes?

1556
01:16:51.680 --> 01:16:54.119
Bill and Jason. Well, we'll give it a little shout

1557
01:16:54.119 --> 01:16:56.880
out here for the final fight sequence. There were the

1558
01:16:56.960 --> 01:17:00.640
hiring of three count them, three technical advice, each a

1559
01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:03.760
master of a particular martial arts style. Cedric Adams was

1560
01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:06.800
the first expert brought in quote unquote. Adams thought the

1561
01:17:06.800 --> 01:17:09.760
best possible way to show just how lethal Riggs really

1562
01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:11.800
is is to show his mastery of a form of

1563
01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:15.399
martial arts never before seen on screen, said Richard Donner.

1564
01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:18.600
Adams taught the actors the movements of can't even pronounce

1565
01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:21.720
a capa area copaira No.

1566
01:17:21.840 --> 01:17:23.640
I don't know. I couldn't sell it. That's why I

1567
01:17:23.720 --> 01:17:24.199
write it down.

1568
01:17:24.239 --> 01:17:28.880
A second technical advisor, Dennis Newsom, brought Jailhouse Rock to

1569
01:17:28.920 --> 01:17:32.439
the fight sequence, and the third technical advisor was Rory

1570
01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:36.119
and Gracie. Oh, Rory, Gracie, Yeah, of course, Gracie from Yeah,

1571
01:17:36.159 --> 01:17:39.399
who of course from we know him from UFC, Yes,

1572
01:17:39.640 --> 01:17:43.640
who specialized in Brazilian jiu jitsu. The filming was spread

1573
01:17:43.640 --> 01:17:46.840
over four complete nights, shooting from dusk till dawn, resulting

1574
01:17:46.920 --> 01:17:50.920
in an edited sequence that would last several minutes on screen.

1575
01:17:51.399 --> 01:17:54.720
Love the final sequence. It is so over the top

1576
01:17:54.760 --> 01:17:58.560
and would never happen, but it's fantastic and clearly so orchestrated.

1577
01:17:58.600 --> 01:18:00.600
I love the fact that you've got it at night.

1578
01:18:00.800 --> 01:18:03.920
You've got a helicopter spotlight shining down, You've got the

1579
01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:06.920
broken fire hydrant with the water shooting up and the

1580
01:18:06.960 --> 01:18:12.239
water's showering down. It's all so choreographed for like this

1581
01:18:12.399 --> 01:18:16.079
perfect fight sequence, which is thrilling. I love it. I

1582
01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:19.159
love the choreography. I just wanted to give that shout

1583
01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:22.319
out to that final sequence because it's it's ridiculous, but

1584
01:18:22.439 --> 01:18:23.520
it's still a blast and.

1585
01:18:23.520 --> 01:18:25.600
It's a great way to cap off the movie.

1586
01:18:25.800 --> 01:18:28.399
Okay, I did have that down for additional thoughts and questions.

1587
01:18:28.399 --> 01:18:30.560
What do we think of the fights at the end. Yeah,

1588
01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:33.880
it just seems so in a way now out of place.

1589
01:18:34.680 --> 01:18:37.479
I must feel like it should have happened first, somehow

1590
01:18:37.520 --> 01:18:40.840
happened earlier, and then they go and take out sure.

1591
01:18:40.760 --> 01:18:42.720
Mcallison, I think you can make an argument for that.

1592
01:18:43.039 --> 01:18:46.279
Going back to beat Smester, they took out Mayax and

1593
01:18:46.319 --> 01:18:47.439
then they took out the Junts.

1594
01:18:48.119 --> 01:18:52.079
Yeah, I hear what you're saying completely. Also, my issue

1595
01:18:52.079 --> 01:18:54.600
being was sent similar to you in the way it

1596
01:18:54.640 --> 01:18:58.159
feels a little forced because it's right before the final

1597
01:18:58.159 --> 01:19:02.039
fight happens. Joshua goes to Mertaw's house that he drives

1598
01:19:02.239 --> 01:19:05.399
to and takes out two traffic cops or police officers

1599
01:19:05.479 --> 01:19:08.039
and you know, staking out the joint and then goes

1600
01:19:08.079 --> 01:19:09.880
to his house. And I'm like, why would Joshua go

1601
01:19:09.960 --> 01:19:12.479
back to Mertaw's house. Why would he even go back.

1602
01:19:12.560 --> 01:19:15.079
I would just think for revenge and just kill the family. Yeah,

1603
01:19:15.159 --> 01:19:17.359
or he doesn't know that McAllister has been killed at

1604
01:19:17.359 --> 01:19:20.000
this point. Maybe he just thinks he's still on this

1605
01:19:20.079 --> 01:19:22.880
mission to find out what Merton knows. I don't know,

1606
01:19:22.920 --> 01:19:26.479
but I was like, you're just walking right back into

1607
01:19:26.560 --> 01:19:29.479
a real problem here. So yeah, it's a set. It's

1608
01:19:29.520 --> 01:19:32.800
set up right, It's all like, oh, we have to

1609
01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:34.720
have this final sequence.

1610
01:19:35.039 --> 01:19:37.199
I'm just like, what is Joshua getting out of this?

1611
01:19:37.319 --> 01:19:40.920
He loses no matter what. Yeah, he's surrounded by cops.

1612
01:19:40.920 --> 01:19:42.960
He's there's no ways getting away, right, that's my question.

1613
01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:43.399
Yeah.

1614
01:19:43.840 --> 01:19:45.640
Yeah, it doesn't feel quite right.

1615
01:19:45.720 --> 01:19:46.479
It just doesn't.

1616
01:19:46.880 --> 01:19:49.279
But I still I still enjoy it, man, I do

1617
01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:51.319
as a kid especially, it's right.

1618
01:19:51.359 --> 01:19:53.720
You want to the scene itself. I like, it's just

1619
01:19:53.720 --> 01:19:55.239
the way it's it's put in the movie.

1620
01:19:55.279 --> 01:19:57.800
Now, it's just kind of like, h it's not right.

1621
01:19:57.800 --> 01:19:59.920
I agree, it's it's it's a little tough, but you

1622
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:02.119
I want to see Riggs exact has come up and

1623
01:20:02.119 --> 01:20:04.600
it s upon Joshua. And then, like I said, as

1624
01:20:04.600 --> 01:20:06.399
a kid, we always you pause it, and you're like,

1625
01:20:06.439 --> 01:20:09.760
wait a minute, Riggs and Roger both shot mister Joshua.

1626
01:20:09.359 --> 01:20:12.720
But who shot first? So I always liked pausing it.

1627
01:20:12.760 --> 01:20:15.239
And according to my recollection and watching it again just

1628
01:20:15.279 --> 01:20:18.319
the other day, it's actually Murtaw that fires first.

1629
01:20:18.479 --> 01:20:19.520
Anyway, all right.

1630
01:20:19.560 --> 01:20:23.239
So the Mrtaw House is on the Warner Brothers Ranch

1631
01:20:23.720 --> 01:20:28.359
in Burbank, specifically on the residential Backlott Street, officially known

1632
01:20:28.439 --> 01:20:32.000
as Blondie Street. The ranch originate it as the Columbia

1633
01:20:32.079 --> 01:20:35.079
Pictures Ranch, which is why the street and house appear

1634
01:20:35.399 --> 01:20:39.079
so frequently in Columbia Pictures and screen Gems productions from

1635
01:20:39.079 --> 01:20:42.720
the thirties through the seventies, such as The Parker's Family, Bewitched,

1636
01:20:42.760 --> 01:20:45.600
and I Dream of Genie. And Blondie Street takes its

1637
01:20:45.680 --> 01:20:48.640
name from the Blondie film series from nineteen thirty eight

1638
01:20:48.680 --> 01:20:51.279
to nineteen fifty Did you ever watch any of those

1639
01:20:51.279 --> 01:20:52.039
Blondie movies?

1640
01:20:52.319 --> 01:20:53.479
No?

1641
01:20:53.479 --> 01:20:56.439
No, They used to be on all the time on

1642
01:20:56.560 --> 01:20:58.359
Sundays growing up.

1643
01:20:58.520 --> 01:20:59.880
Huh. I would maybe watch.

1644
01:20:59.800 --> 01:21:02.199
Like ten minutes because it wasn't a cartoon so and

1645
01:21:02.279 --> 01:21:02.960
then shut it off.

1646
01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:03.399
There you go.

1647
01:21:03.840 --> 01:21:06.359
But that's based on the comic strip Blondie and Dagone.

1648
01:21:06.359 --> 01:21:09.680
Oh yeah, okay, well Dagwood, I know, yeah, okay, got it.

1649
01:21:10.159 --> 01:21:10.960
This is kind of fun.

1650
01:21:11.079 --> 01:21:14.039
A clip of this movie, leith Weapon is played on

1651
01:21:14.239 --> 01:21:17.239
television in the film The Last Boy Scout in nineteen

1652
01:21:17.319 --> 01:21:20.279
ninety one. Not only are both movies written by Shane

1653
01:21:20.319 --> 01:21:23.960
Black and produced by Joel Silver, but Damon Wayans from

1654
01:21:23.960 --> 01:21:27.359
The Last Boy Scout would play Roger Murtau on the

1655
01:21:27.399 --> 01:21:31.479
television series Letho Weapon, which began in twenty sixteen.

1656
01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:33.720
But this I found interesting because you did mentioned this.

1657
01:21:33.760 --> 01:21:36.760
One of your favorite scenes is the Christmas tree scene. Yea,

1658
01:21:37.119 --> 01:21:39.399
so one of the batties. I'm always like, why is

1659
01:21:39.399 --> 01:21:43.000
this guy look so familiar? His name was Blackie Demet,

1660
01:21:43.439 --> 01:21:47.159
but his real name is John Ketis, who just happens

1661
01:21:47.199 --> 01:21:50.920
to be father of Anthony Ketas from The Red Hot

1662
01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:55.560
Chili Peppers. Totally seeing absolutely, that's great. Yeah, I think

1663
01:21:55.800 --> 01:21:58.760
I'm good with my trivia. All right, let's move on

1664
01:21:58.840 --> 01:22:02.279
to box office. So Litha Weapon was released on March sixth,

1665
01:22:02.399 --> 01:22:06.239
nineteen eighty seven, in twelve hundred and fifty six theaters

1666
01:22:06.479 --> 01:22:09.479
with an estimated budget of fifteen million dollars. Letha Weapon

1667
01:22:09.520 --> 01:22:12.960
pulled in sixty five point two million dollars domestically and

1668
01:22:13.039 --> 01:22:17.239
another fifty five million dollars internationally. The film debut number

1669
01:22:17.239 --> 01:22:20.000
one at the box office and actually grossed more in

1670
01:22:20.079 --> 01:22:22.880
its second week of release while remaining at the top spot.

1671
01:22:23.079 --> 01:22:25.840
Lethal Weapon would spend one more week as the number

1672
01:22:25.880 --> 01:22:28.520
one movie in the US and spend another ten weeks

1673
01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:31.479
in the top ten. Lethal Weapon ended up being the

1674
01:22:31.600 --> 01:22:35.520
ninth highest grossing movie in the US in nineteen eighty seven.

1675
01:22:36.119 --> 01:22:38.159
Moving on to reviews. When growing up in the eighties,

1676
01:22:38.199 --> 01:22:40.359
we would watch at the movies with Gene Cisco and

1677
01:22:40.439 --> 01:22:43.840
Roger Ebert to hear their reviews and watch clips of

1678
01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:48.600
upcoming movies. Their review of Lethal Weapon was unanimous two

1679
01:22:48.920 --> 01:22:55.039
thumbs up. Roger loved the movie, stating a terrific action powerhouse,

1680
01:22:55.239 --> 01:22:59.359
a non stop, no holds barred thriller, the best pure

1681
01:22:59.600 --> 01:23:03.800
action movie since Raiders of the Lost Arc. Ciskell enjoyed

1682
01:23:03.960 --> 01:23:07.000
the two main characters, who he thought were original and

1683
01:23:07.279 --> 01:23:10.159
a lot of fun, but the movie loses a little

1684
01:23:10.199 --> 01:23:13.479
after the first hour. Rotten Tomatoes gives it a Tomato

1685
01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:16.560
Meter score of eighty two percent with a Popcorn Meter

1686
01:23:16.640 --> 01:23:19.840
score of eighty six percent, and also has an IMDb

1687
01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:23.359
rating of seven point six. So this takes us to

1688
01:23:23.520 --> 01:23:27.039
additional thoughts and questions. What are some additional thoughts and

1689
01:23:27.159 --> 01:23:29.079
questions you have about this movie?

1690
01:23:29.159 --> 01:23:32.079
I think I've asked most of my questions already or

1691
01:23:32.159 --> 01:23:36.359
expressed my thoughts, So the only question I have for

1692
01:23:36.479 --> 01:23:40.680
you is how would you rank the films in the

1693
01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:43.880
Lethal Weapon franchise from best to worst?

1694
01:23:44.039 --> 01:23:48.439
Oh? Super easy? One through four? That was super easy?

1695
01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:51.600
All right? Yeah, I Mine is only slightly different. I'll

1696
01:23:51.600 --> 01:23:53.960
explain a couple things. For a long time, I actually

1697
01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:57.880
had two Lethal Weapon two in the top spot because

1698
01:23:58.159 --> 01:24:01.960
I had a nice date that evening when that film

1699
01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:04.439
came out, and it was just I love the sequel

1700
01:24:04.520 --> 01:24:07.640
and I thought it was a lot of fun, and

1701
01:24:07.680 --> 01:24:10.119
it is a little bit lighter than the original. But

1702
01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:14.039
over the years I've changed my mind and I'm almost

1703
01:24:14.199 --> 01:24:16.840
the same. I have it one, two, but then I

1704
01:24:16.880 --> 01:24:22.239
have four, then three, three. I'm not invested in the

1705
01:24:22.279 --> 01:24:24.279
bad guy. Do not care for the bad guy in

1706
01:24:24.279 --> 01:24:28.119
that film? And also that there's three is the introduction

1707
01:24:28.319 --> 01:24:31.119
of Chris Rock's character? Is that correct? Or is he

1708
01:24:31.159 --> 01:24:33.199
in four? Now I'm getting confused.

1709
01:24:33.720 --> 01:24:34.880
Now you're confusing me.

1710
01:24:35.039 --> 01:24:39.000
Because Chris Rock ends up being Rhianne's baby daddy, and

1711
01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:41.600
that's they're trying, and you know what that.

1712
01:24:41.560 --> 01:24:42.439
Might be in four.

1713
01:24:42.680 --> 01:24:45.279
Actually, So this is tough now because I don't like

1714
01:24:45.319 --> 01:24:48.199
the introduction of his character and he's put in there

1715
01:24:48.239 --> 01:24:51.439
to do his stand up stick and that feels really forced, right,

1716
01:24:51.880 --> 01:24:55.520
But I love jet Lee and four now see's I know,

1717
01:24:55.840 --> 01:24:58.039
three just doesn't. I think three is the one I've

1718
01:24:58.119 --> 01:25:00.399
seen the least, even though I do like Renee Russo

1719
01:25:00.479 --> 01:25:05.079
a lot. It's just the plot. There wasn't much grabbing

1720
01:25:05.079 --> 01:25:07.479
me in Lethal Web three, and I just Jet Lee

1721
01:25:07.600 --> 01:25:09.800
puts the fourth one over the top for me. So

1722
01:25:09.840 --> 01:25:11.319
I go one, two, four to three.

1723
01:25:11.359 --> 01:25:12.039
That's my order.

1724
01:25:12.279 --> 01:25:14.600
I would say I've watched Lethal wepon at least forty

1725
01:25:14.600 --> 01:25:17.279
times more than I've watched the other three combined. Yeah, wow,

1726
01:25:17.560 --> 01:25:19.840
how about that. I just don't like what they did

1727
01:25:19.840 --> 01:25:23.079
with the Riggs character because I like, agreed that total

1728
01:25:23.079 --> 01:25:25.119
intensity that has in this one and then the other ones.

1729
01:25:25.199 --> 01:25:26.199
He's just a goofball.

1730
01:25:26.479 --> 01:25:28.800
I can't stand when they do it because they're like, oh,

1731
01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:30.600
we have to have more comedy. We got to needs

1732
01:25:30.640 --> 01:25:32.880
some comic relief. It's too dark, it's too dark. It's

1733
01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:35.920
too well, that's what makes Lethal Weapon great, and the

1734
01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:39.079
fact is it could have been so much darker. But

1735
01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:42.800
this is the first one, is the tone down version.

1736
01:25:42.520 --> 01:25:43.880
Of it, which is crazy.

1737
01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:46.279
It'll be interesting when we go back to two, because

1738
01:25:46.279 --> 01:25:48.560
I know most people love Too. I'm not a fan

1739
01:25:48.640 --> 01:25:49.199
of two either.

1740
01:25:49.399 --> 01:25:51.760
Yeah, that'll be an interesting discussion because I'm a huge

1741
01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:52.239
fan of two.

1742
01:25:52.279 --> 01:25:53.600
I really really enjoy Too.

1743
01:25:53.720 --> 01:25:56.239
And I think there's some very dark moments in that

1744
01:25:56.640 --> 01:25:59.960
they do have. They actually give Riggs a little more

1745
01:25:59.840 --> 01:26:02.039
tram as it turns out in that one because of

1746
01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:05.000
the female love interest and what happens there.

1747
01:26:05.359 --> 01:26:07.399
Yeah, who had a major crush all that was the

1748
01:26:07.439 --> 01:26:11.039
only reason I watched that movie because because she was gorgeouszing.

1749
01:26:11.159 --> 01:26:13.680
So yeah, that'll be in a good discussion half. Yeah,

1750
01:26:13.960 --> 01:26:19.800
thoughts and questions because how messed up is Rhiann after all?

1751
01:26:19.840 --> 01:26:23.119
This great great thought that crossed my mind as well.

1752
01:26:23.279 --> 01:26:26.439
She goes through a lot and sees too much, so

1753
01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:29.920
much violence. Not only is she kidnapped, but then to

1754
01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:33.399
see her father pretty much like well immediately after torture,

1755
01:26:33.520 --> 01:26:37.000
and then to witness Rigs come into the room and

1756
01:26:37.399 --> 01:26:40.239
murder so many he killed so many people it's just

1757
01:26:41.039 --> 01:26:41.920
intense trauma.

1758
01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:45.279
Yeah, intense. You figure her boyfriend gets murdered. Yeah, right,

1759
01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:48.319
of course, she gets kidnapped. She watches all those people

1760
01:26:48.359 --> 01:26:51.119
die in the middle of the desert, right, she gets rekidnapped,

1761
01:26:51.359 --> 01:26:55.520
her dad gets tortured, she almost gets raped, and uh

1762
01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:57.199
yeah she's okay at the end there.

1763
01:26:57.640 --> 01:27:00.479
Yeah, she was driving a limousine across the just brought

1764
01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:00.840
this up in.

1765
01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:03.640
The second one, like, where's three Anne back therapy?

1766
01:27:03.840 --> 01:27:07.319
Yeah? Right, geez leth a weapon two back in therapy.

1767
01:27:07.720 --> 01:27:07.960
Yep.

1768
01:27:08.079 --> 01:27:10.479
Can't imagine driving a limo across the desert.

1769
01:27:10.279 --> 01:27:13.439
Being chased by a helicopter. It's gotta be gotta be

1770
01:27:13.479 --> 01:27:14.439
a lot. Yeah.

1771
01:27:14.600 --> 01:27:17.279
That was probably the least of her trauma though, But

1772
01:27:17.399 --> 01:27:20.319
I love that with Merteal Yeaser, get your fucking car.

1773
01:27:20.479 --> 01:27:23.119
I'm like, yeah, exactly, that's what I would have said too,

1774
01:27:23.279 --> 01:27:24.680
Get the fucking car.

1775
01:27:25.319 --> 01:27:27.920
Did you have any other thoughts, observations, questions?

1776
01:27:28.359 --> 01:27:29.720
No, that's it all right.

1777
01:27:29.920 --> 01:27:32.680
I had to move on to review. So Jason, on

1778
01:27:32.720 --> 01:27:35.720
the scale of one to five police badges, what do

1779
01:27:35.760 --> 01:27:37.039
you give lethal weapon?

1780
01:27:37.439 --> 01:27:42.000
Easy? Five? Solid police badges for me. The buddy cop

1781
01:27:42.079 --> 01:27:45.680
genre started before this. Often you hear that credit is

1782
01:27:45.720 --> 01:27:49.079
given to forty eight Hours Eddie Murphy McNulty, which is fantastic.

1783
01:27:49.119 --> 01:27:52.159
We covered it on this very pod. This though, I

1784
01:27:52.319 --> 01:27:55.119
consider to me at least the best of and my

1785
01:27:55.239 --> 01:27:58.239
favorite of the buddy cop genre. Bill said it earlier.

1786
01:27:58.399 --> 01:28:02.079
Great casting, I've said it, great chemistry, great action, great music,

1787
01:28:02.079 --> 01:28:04.960
great direction, great pacing. The pacing of this the movie

1788
01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:08.000
is under two hours. It's literally bang bang, and you're

1789
01:28:08.000 --> 01:28:10.760
done and you're thoroughly entertained. Guess what else. I was

1790
01:28:10.800 --> 01:28:13.520
actually invested in the relationships, and I cared about what

1791
01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:15.920
would happen. Not only that, I wanted to see more,

1792
01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:18.680
and thankfully we did with the sequels. Maybe not so

1793
01:28:18.800 --> 01:28:22.079
much thankfully for Bill, but for me. I enjoyed a

1794
01:28:22.119 --> 01:28:24.960
couple of the sequels. This movie completely holds up for me.

1795
01:28:25.439 --> 01:28:28.319
I actually got excited, as mentioned rewatching it.

1796
01:28:28.359 --> 01:28:29.039
I literally did.

1797
01:28:29.279 --> 01:28:32.880
This was a real pleasure to revisit once again. I

1798
01:28:32.960 --> 01:28:37.000
found it reinvigorating on a couple different levels. It's rock

1799
01:28:37.039 --> 01:28:40.239
and roll. That's all five police badges for me, Bill Bent,

1800
01:28:40.319 --> 01:28:42.119
what say you? I'll be honest going into this, I

1801
01:28:42.159 --> 01:28:44.279
thought for sure I was gonna give this five no problem.

1802
01:28:44.600 --> 01:28:46.079
I wish you could give it like a four point

1803
01:28:46.119 --> 01:28:47.920
seventy five. I'm just gonna get it four point five. Sure,

1804
01:28:47.920 --> 01:28:49.840
I still love this movie, but I think I was

1805
01:28:49.880 --> 01:28:53.560
just kind of noticing some cracks. I just feel like

1806
01:28:53.600 --> 01:28:55.920
throughout the movie there's little things that are little bits

1807
01:28:55.920 --> 01:28:58.359
that are missing, and I kind of want to know

1808
01:28:58.399 --> 01:29:01.720
what it is. So something's felt a little off, but

1809
01:29:02.039 --> 01:29:05.960
not enough to not still love this movie.

1810
01:29:06.199 --> 01:29:06.760
Yeah.

1811
01:29:06.800 --> 01:29:08.800
Literally, the other night I just had it on repeat.

1812
01:29:08.800 --> 01:29:10.600
I just I was just playing over and over again.

1813
01:29:11.119 --> 01:29:11.640
It's great.

1814
01:29:11.800 --> 01:29:14.960
I enjoy it so much. Maybe I should just give

1815
01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:18.640
it fine regardless of its flaws. But it's so weird

1816
01:29:18.680 --> 01:29:21.399
how much I love this movie and don't really care

1817
01:29:21.439 --> 01:29:25.359
about the sequels whatsoever. And it's not like the sequels

1818
01:29:25.399 --> 01:29:28.600
were bad. I'm just like they just couldn't recapture what

1819
01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:33.319
they did in this movie. I just love mel Gibson's character.

1820
01:29:33.439 --> 01:29:35.279
I just love Riggs in this I just love the

1821
01:29:35.319 --> 01:29:38.560
contrast with Martal. There's a scene in the opening when

1822
01:29:38.920 --> 01:29:42.399
everyone's getting up in the morning and trist drops an

1823
01:29:42.399 --> 01:29:45.000
egg on the floor. I'm like, why is that in

1824
01:29:45.079 --> 01:29:48.439
the movie, But that's something that would happen in the household,

1825
01:29:48.479 --> 01:29:50.760
And then Marton makes a joke about, oh yeah, you know,

1826
01:29:50.800 --> 01:29:53.039
I should be looking on the floor for eggs, and

1827
01:29:53.079 --> 01:29:55.640
it's such a throwaway, but I'm like it adds so

1828
01:29:55.800 --> 01:29:57.800
much to the film because it makes like this is

1829
01:29:57.960 --> 01:30:00.319
a real home life, This is the real stuff that

1830
01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:03.560
kind of happened. It's not all lovey dovey like little

1831
01:30:03.560 --> 01:30:04.920
things happened here and there.

1832
01:30:05.079 --> 01:30:08.520
Real life family man and a real real family with

1833
01:30:09.479 --> 01:30:10.600
real family goings on.

1834
01:30:11.039 --> 01:30:13.319
Gary Busey is so much fun. I don't we didn't

1835
01:30:13.319 --> 01:30:16.000
get into Gary Busey enough of this good point. And

1836
01:30:16.039 --> 01:30:19.479
he'll say too, it really saved his career. I don't

1837
01:30:19.520 --> 01:30:21.640
know if we'll do anything else from the early eighties,

1838
01:30:21.640 --> 01:30:23.840
but yeah, I mean, he's certainly one of those first

1839
01:30:23.840 --> 01:30:26.359
people he learned about that having a drug problem and

1840
01:30:26.359 --> 01:30:28.880
derailing his career and this and this turned things around

1841
01:30:28.920 --> 01:30:31.840
for him. But I really liked him as Joshua. I

1842
01:30:31.840 --> 01:30:35.239
thought he was a great contrast to Riggs and Burntal.

1843
01:30:35.640 --> 01:30:37.359
I really wish we got a little bit more out

1844
01:30:37.399 --> 01:30:40.279
of McAllister. Like I said, I do like that one scene.

1845
01:30:40.439 --> 01:30:43.680
I'd like him in it. That one scene with mister Mendez.

1846
01:30:43.760 --> 01:30:44.199
I'm like, I.

1847
01:30:44.159 --> 01:30:47.159
Would see more of that guy throughout the movie. So

1848
01:30:47.439 --> 01:30:49.319
for some reason you have not watched this movie yet,

1849
01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:51.840
you got to check it out and just see where

1850
01:30:51.840 --> 01:30:53.119
it all all started.

1851
01:30:53.520 --> 01:30:58.159
It's a blast, no question about it. Entertainment value, and

1852
01:30:58.199 --> 01:31:01.880
I unapologetically will say, you know, I gave my rating

1853
01:31:01.920 --> 01:31:05.000
tube for my nostalgic attachment as well, and that's that's

1854
01:31:05.039 --> 01:31:07.399
what we do here. That's fine in the All Eighties

1855
01:31:07.399 --> 01:31:10.159
Movies Podcast. Yeah, absolutely loved it. Great to talk about

1856
01:31:10.159 --> 01:31:12.359
it with you. All right, So about wraps it up

1857
01:31:12.399 --> 01:31:15.159
for this week's episode. As always, we appreciate tuning in,

1858
01:31:15.399 --> 01:31:17.840
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1859
01:31:18.039 --> 01:31:19.439
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1860
01:31:19.319 --> 01:31:21.720
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more about the show, of course you do. Head over

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to All Eightiesmovies podcast dot com. We're all the rad details.

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We hope you'll join us next time as we dive

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into another classic from the greatest movie decade ever, the

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nineteen eighties. Until then, but excellent to everyone.

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What did one shepherd say to the other shepherd, Let's

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get the flock out of here.

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Thanks for staying up with us.

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Good night world,