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Hello, and welcome to the All Eighties Movies Podcast, the
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podcast where we talked about the blockbusters, the flops, and
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everything in between from one of the precious decades from movies,
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the nineteen eighties. Your host Bill Banton long be on
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his journey revisiting eighties movies. Is my co host Jason Maatsik.
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Hello, Jason, you want to know how to get capone?
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They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends
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one of yours to the hospital, You send one of
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his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way, and that's
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how you get capone.
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That's right. Listeners, we're discussing with spoils of plenty. The
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nineteen eighty seven gangster drama The Untouchables. It was produced
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by Art Linson and distributed by Paramount Pictures. The movie
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stars Kevin Gostner, Andy Garcia, Robert de Niro, and Sean Connery.
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Directed by Brian de Palma, this movie is rated R
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with a running time of one hour and fifty nine minutes.
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It was based on the nineteen fifty seven autobiographical memoir
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by Elliot Ness of the same name, and later became
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a television series which ran from nineteen fifty nine to
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nineteen sixty three. The movie was nominated for four Oscars,
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winning one. Nominees were for Best Art Direction, Set Direction,
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Best Costume Design, and Best Music Original Score. The win
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was for Best Actor in the Supporting role Sean Connery.
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So what is this movie about? What's on the box?
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If you grew up in the nineteen eighties and went
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to your local video store to read this movie, you
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would find this description on the back of the VHS box.
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It is What's on the box? Take it away, Jason.
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The critics and public agree. Brian De Palma's The Untouchables
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is a must see masterpiece, a glorious, fierce, larger than
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life depiction of the mob warlord who ruled Prohibition era
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Chicago and the law enforcement who vowed to bring him down.
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This classic confrontation between good and evil stars Kevin Costner
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as federal agent Elliot Ness, Robert de Niro as gangland
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kingpin al Capone, and Sean Connery as Malone, the cop
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who teaches Ness how to beat the mob, shoot fast,
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and shoot first, The Untouchables.
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The Untouchables. Wow, that was a quick uh.
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I'm used to these long ones, I know, short and
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sweet you tried to take a sip and whatever you're
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drinking over there, and you just didn't even have time.
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To do that. Wow, all right, The Untouchables. So that
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was what's on the box, Jason. You remember the first
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time you saw The Untouchables.
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I don't, Man, my memory has just been terrible for
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like the last ten movies I feel like we've covered.
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But I probably did see this in the theater. I
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had to have a US But I honestly don't remember
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the first time. But I can safely say I've seen
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it at least a dozen times, maybe more ever since.
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I always adored this film and one little memory I
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just wanted to share, and you can help me a
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little bit with this bill band. In college, of course,
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we befriended Marwan Abdurzak, who's been on this very podcast
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with us, and he worked for that company. Was it
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called Tinsley? Is that correct?
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Yep? Tinsley Advertising, right.
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And they helped promote was it Paramount or.
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Which, Yeah, it was Paramount, Okay.
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So he would give us these promotional like packets that
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were like, you know, promoting films coming out, the current films.
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But he also had gotten his hands on promotional packets
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for slightly older films, and he gave me one from
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The Untouchables and it contains the photo the quote unquote
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the photo from the movie with the group of the
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Untouchables sitting around the table. Man, I don't know why
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I don't have that framed and up on my wall
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right now. Just talking about this movie right now makes
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me want to do that. So I just wanted to
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share that I absolutely love that photo.
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Oh that is funny that you mentioned that, because that
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used to be a thing I would do, and I
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don't know how you were not in one of these photos.
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I would say, hey, let's do an Untouchables photo. I'd
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literally say that, and we would sitting around a table
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and Poe was like, we're Touchables. Absolutely, it's iconic. Man. Yeah,
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we did one for my wedding and sorry you were
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not there, but yeah, we did one in the bar
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and everybody's got the cigars and we're all standing along
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the bar and it's like the Untouchables. Everybody just makes
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a straight face. Yep, And that's what it is. And
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I have like two or three versions of that with
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different friends. But I was thinking about this on the
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drive to work today. I was like, how do I
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not have one with you? Pat, Chris, Marjuan, I mean
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we'd get together. Next time we all get together, we're
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gonna have to do it.
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Untouchables felt absolutely, Yeah, absolutely, Maybe one of our birthday
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get together is will do it at the Island?
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Sounds good? Yeah. So the first time I saw this
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was in the movie theater with three of my friends.
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I remember Daniel Day was one of them. I can't
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remember the other two. Sorry, sorry guys, So you just
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had the good memory, but I can't remember the other
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two people. I was to see this movie, and man,
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as soon as it started, I was certainly hooked into
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that one. So definitely rememberable first time seeing that movie.
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I think it was opening week. There you go. Heck yeah, man, yeah,
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my first time was in the movie theater. Very good.
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All right, so let's talk about the movie. What are
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our impressions of The Untouchables? Jason, what you got?
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Well, Bill Bant, this is what I gotta say. This
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movie's sexy all around. It's got big stars and Connery, Cossner,
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de Niro. We get introduced to Andy Garcia in this.
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It's capone, It's Chicago gangsters. It's Chicago in nineteen thirties
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Prohibition era. It's elliot Ness as a badass forming a
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special cadre or task force of officers to take down
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the big Bat. I mean, come on, what's not to
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like here? Even before watching this again, I was like
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I could see the whole movie in my mind, from
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beginning to end. How many scenes in this film are iconic.
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When I think of the Untouchables, I'm flooded with every
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single scene. I mentioned Garcia's intro we get capone with
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the bat, all Connery's quotes. There's some really emotional moments
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that are just a real bummer in this film, and
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a lot of I'm just thinking, there's a lot of
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smaller scenes that are just really memorable. Not to mention
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these big set pieces obviously, like the Canadian Mounties and
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the Untouchables charging the bridge on horseback, But I'm just
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going to save the rest for our favorite scenes segment.
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But needless to say, this is just one of the
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more memorable movies overall. And speaking of favorites, this is
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one of my favorite scores by Ennio Morricone. I owned
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this soundtrack on cassette, played it to death. I know
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it forward and backward, and also not to mention I'm
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a Chicago guy, of course, and this is one of
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the great Chicago movies. But for me, this movie completely
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holds up today. It's a banger from start to finish.
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I look forward to every scene. I watched it twice
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for this recording, and it was just as enjoyable on
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the second viewing. I mean, right from the start, the music,
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the Dunna Dunn, It's effing classic. What a great title
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card in the beginning, and then you see a credit,
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did you I didn't know the wardrobe was by Giorgio
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ARMANI fancy yep. So some thoughts right off the top.
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And when the movie starts, I mean, anytime a bad
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guy is getting a shave is always great tension.
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I love that.
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I was just thinking about the recent rebooted Roadhouse where
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it happens again. It's been done in a million movies.
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It's a great overhead shot at compone aka de Niro,
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because you're always afraid, like if the bad guy gets
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cut by the razor, he's just going to take out
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the barber. But of course he exercises restraint in this,
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so it's just a great start to the movie and
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then it just keeps rolling from there. I got a
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lot more to say, but I'm gonna let you jump
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in here.
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Man. This is definitely one of those movies from the
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eighties that they can release now. I don't think there's
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much that they need to change. Hmm. Yeah. I think
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the only other movie we've covered so far where I
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could say that was probably Raiders of the Lost Arc
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and Boz Them, probably because it's a period piece, sure,
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but sure it looks makes sense, fantastic. It still looks
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fantastic to me today. It still feels like it was
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nineteen thirty. Cogo and the costumes and just all that stuff.
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I just I love that and the cast, the four
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actors that they put together to form the Untouchables, love them,
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love them. I had no idea who any Garcia was,
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but right away I thought he was great. Charles Martin
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Smith is Oscar Wallace, a little comic relief in there. Yep.
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It was just fun watching him do his thing. Of course,
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Sean Connery, James Bond watch him in a different role,
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and he was just in charge of every scene that
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he was in. And Kevin Constner and I know a
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lot of people complained about Kevin Costner as being too vanilla,
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but I was like, that's who he's supposed to be.
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That's what I liked about him, and everyone just kind
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of played off him, and I really liked it. So
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just the casting of those four was just great, and
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then Robert de Niro would come in and do his thing,
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pop in throughout. Yeah, the music is awesome. Think about this.
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When I was watching the movie, I was like, did
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he only compose maybe like twenty minutes and then they
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just replayed that over and over, which I didn't care
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because the music's awesome and it's all over the place.
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It gets your heart pumping, and it makes your eyes
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well in moments. It's a really, really good score. I
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think it's an underrated score from the eighties. I don't
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think we talked about this one enough, and the fact
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that it was based on a book that was based
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on a television series definitely one of the better adaptions
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that we don't talk about, like, oh, you know movies.
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I mean, technically it's adapted from a book, but this one,
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from beginning to end, it's a good one. It really
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should be mentioned as one of the better films of
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the eighties.
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To me, I think a thousand percent. My friend, I
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was thinking the very same thing. I was just like,
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how is this not higher up on my all time
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eighties movies list? After watching it again? Now, I mean,
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it certainly is. And just going back to the actors
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here again, Andy Garcias, we just keep mentioning. You know,
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he had done did some TV work and he had
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a supporting role in eight Million Ways to Die with
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Jeff Bridges and Rosanna are kept playing a cocaine dealer
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with it this heavy Spanish accent. It's funny if you
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look up a little bit of his role in that
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from YouTube or whatnot, or in the trailer for that.
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But for me, I always considered this to be his
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breakout role. Most I think feel it's Godfather Part three
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Joey Sasa, But no, I think it's this. This is
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when I really I mean, he just commands when he's
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on screen. And so, yeah, Connery, you know what, we
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can talk about his accent.
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It's not Irish. Does it matter? I don't know.
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We talked about him in our Highlander episode as well,
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with the same issue. But he gets the Academy Award.
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I love him in this playing the mentor, the quote
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unquote tutor, the do gooder that ended up on the
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beat for years because he didn't succumb to the corruption.
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There's little things about his character. I love how he
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he also commands. I mean, obviously Connory has such a presence,
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but the little ticks he has with his character, which
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is so just drawn, where you know he kind of
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softly punches people in the arm or something like that,
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and you know how the first time elliot Ness goes
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to his apartment he approaches the door with a sowd
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off shotgun.
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There's just a lot of little, well detailed things with
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his character.
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I thought for a moment after my first watch, I
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was like, was he totally right for this? But then
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when I watched it again, I mean, no question, he
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looks fantastic and I think he has some real genuine
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moments in this. I've always thought he was a solid actor.
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Still do he plays the levels in this? And one
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thing that stood out to me Bill bann on this
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rewatch was the portrayal of his morality. It's a real
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through line as to how he's tested throughout. I mean
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we're really watching and watching him, watching and learning from
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Malone how to do the things that need to be
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done to take down to Capone, and it means having
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to cross a line, and he has a real difficulty
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with that, and we see how in the end does
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what it takes, obviously, but he's really having a battle