Oct. 24, 2025

Child's Play (1988)

Child's Play (1988)

It's "Splatter Cinema Month" and in this episode, hosts Bill Bant and Jason Masek dive into the 1988 horror classic 'Child's Play,' exploring its themes, characters, and memorable moments. They discuss the film's impact on the horror genre, the performances of Brad Dourif and Catherine Hicks, and their own nostalgic memories of watching the film. The conversation also touches on the film's pacing, special effects, and some of its flaws, providing a comprehensive analysis of this iconic movie. They explore the parental perspective on the events of the film, analyze the strange choices made by characters, and highlight the impressive special effects that brought Chucky to life. The conversation also touches on behind-the-scenes trivia, box office performance, and critical reception, culminating in their final ratings and reflections on the film's legacy.

"He wants YOU for a new best friend..." We kick off a shortned "Splatter Cinema Month" with the supernatural horror movie 'Child's Play.' The movie stars Catherine Hicks, Chris Sarandon, Alex Vincent and Brad Dourif. Directed by Tom Holland.

Child's Play - IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094862/?ref_=tttg_ov_bk

Child's Play - Rotten Tomatoes: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/childs_play

The Chucky Song by Simon Stokes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUDOgSaHHe8

Bill's Letterboxd Ratings: https://letterboxd.com/bill_b/list/bills-all-80s-movies-podcast-ratings/

Jason's Letterboxd Ratings: https://letterboxd.com/jasonmasek/list/jasons-all-80s-movies-podcast-ratings/

Website: http://www.all80smoviespodcast.com

X (Twitter): https://twitter.com/podcastAll80s

Facebook (META): https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100030791216864

Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/podcastall80s.bsky.social

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@all80smoviespodcast

Over 25,000 podcasters use Podpage! Create your own podcast website that looks great, runs smoothly, and is optimized for search engines. Get started today! Click Here to learn More

WEBVTT

1
00:00:19.320 --> 00:00:22.359
Hello and welcome the All Eighties Movies Podcast, the podcast

2
00:00:22.440 --> 00:00:24.760
where we talk about the blockbusters, the fluffs, and everything

3
00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:27.519
in between from one of the freshest decades from movies,

4
00:00:27.719 --> 00:00:28.559
the nineteen eighties.

5
00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:29.760
I'm your host Bill Banton.

6
00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:32.359
Along with me on this journey revisiting eighties movies is

7
00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:35.880
my co host Jason Massek. Hello, Jason, Hi.

8
00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:40.000
I'm Chucky and I'm your friend to the end Heidi.

9
00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:41.600
Ho ha ha ha ha ha.

10
00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:45.399
That's right, listeners, we're discussing with spoilers of twenty the

11
00:00:45.520 --> 00:00:49.719
nineteen eighty eight supernatural horror movie Child's Play. It was

12
00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:54.679
produced by United Artists and distributed by MGMUA Communications Company.

13
00:00:54.960 --> 00:00:59.399
The movie stars Catherine Hicks, Chris Sarandon, and Alex Vincent.

14
00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:02.439
Directed by Tom Holland, this movie is rated R with

15
00:01:02.479 --> 00:01:05.519
a running time of one hour and twenty seven minutes.

16
00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:09.120
So what is this movie about? What's in the box.

17
00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:11.079
If you grew up in the nineteen eighties and what's

18
00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:13.480
your local video store to rent this movie, you would

19
00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:16.359
find this description on the back of the VHS box.

20
00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:18.920
It is What's in the box? Take it away, Jason.

21
00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:23.760
Nobody believes six year old Andy Barkley when he says

22
00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:27.959
that Chucky, his new birthday doll, is alive, and when

23
00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:31.439
Andy's babysitter is violently pushed out the window to her death,

24
00:01:31.719 --> 00:01:34.920
the boy tells his mother and the detective the simple

25
00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:39.959
truth Chucky did it. In this clever, playful thriller, voodoo

26
00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:43.120
and terror meet when an innocent looking doll is inhabited

27
00:01:43.159 --> 00:01:45.920
by the soul of a killer who wasn't ready to die.

28
00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:49.480
Only young Andy realizes that Chucky, who promises to be

29
00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:52.519
his friend to the end, is responsible for the ensuing

30
00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:56.439
rampage of gruesome murders. But the real terror takes hold

31
00:01:56.480 --> 00:01:59.760
when the deranged doll becomes determined to transfer his evil

32
00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:03.359
sp hear it to a living human being. Child's Play

33
00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:07.319
co writer director Tom Holland, creator of the popular Fright Night,

34
00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:11.639
treats his audience intelligently in this stylish thrill a minute

35
00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:16.400
chiller filled with startling special effects. Look out, Freddy, here

36
00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:17.680
comes Chucky.

37
00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:21.639
So that was what's on the box. Let's move on

38
00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:24.120
to our eighty snapshot as we highlight some of the

39
00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:26.159
creative forces from this movie.

40
00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:30.159
Jason, who do you Got? I went with Brad Doriff,

41
00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:35.039
who plays serial Killer Charles Lee Ray and also performs,

42
00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:40.080
of course, the voice of Chucky. Some trademarks of Brad

43
00:02:40.120 --> 00:02:44.080
Dorif are his deep, raspy, ominous voice. He often plays

44
00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:48.240
eccentric or deranged characters, and also he's known for his

45
00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:52.719
frightening expressive interpretations. His career as a wonderful character actor

46
00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:54.919
goes back to the mid seventies, where he did some

47
00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:58.800
notable work as Billy Bibbett in One Flew Over the

48
00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:02.319
Cuckoo's Nest, for which he received a Best Supporting Actor nomination.

49
00:03:02.520 --> 00:03:05.120
He also was in the Eyes of Laura Mars and

50
00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:06.680
I have to mention, of course, that he was in

51
00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:11.599
three episodes of Studs Lot again. Oh my god, it

52
00:03:11.719 --> 00:03:16.000
is back the TV miniseries from nineteen seventy nine. Always

53
00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:18.840
have to mention that one starring Harry Hamlin, because it

54
00:03:18.879 --> 00:03:22.719
feels like everyone was in that mini series somehow it does. Anyway,

55
00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:25.560
he's got over. This is a Brad Doriff. He's got

56
00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:27.840
over one hundred and seventy credits on IMDb, so let's

57
00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:30.400
just say the guy's worked a lot. Here's his eighties snapshot.

58
00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:34.400
He does Heaven's Gate in nineteen eighty, Ragtime in eighty

59
00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:38.960
one Dune in eighty four. He plays a convict in

60
00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:42.400
a Toto music video for Stranger in Town in eighty four.

61
00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:45.199
He's in Blue Velvet in eighty six, does some TV

62
00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:48.000
episodes and TV movies. Of course, we have to mention

63
00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:51.520
as well that he was in an episode of Miami Vice.

64
00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:56.439
That's season three, episode sixteen, the episode entitled Teresa one

65
00:03:56.520 --> 00:04:00.360
of my favorites. Actually, yes, that one features Helen Bottom

66
00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:04.360
Carter correct correct as the titular character Teresa.

67
00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:05.319
Yeah, Young doctor.

68
00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:08.319
That was in nineteen eighty seven. He does This Child's

69
00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:10.319
Play in eighty eight, and then Mississippi Burning in eighty

70
00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:12.080
eight as well. He goes on to be featured in

71
00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:15.039
The Exorcist three Jungle Fever. He continues to do the

72
00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:17.920
voice of Chucky in all of the following sequels. He

73
00:04:17.959 --> 00:04:20.240
was in Color of Night, Murder and First I remember

74
00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:24.079
him well from Alien Resurrection, but he's also well known

75
00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:27.600
as Grima worm Tongue from the Lord of the Rings,

76
00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:30.319
The Two Towers and the Return of the King. He

77
00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:33.879
does thirty six episodes of Deadwood as Doc Cochrane, and

78
00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:36.120
he reprised his role as the voice of Chucky in

79
00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:39.839
twenty four episodes of the TV series Chucky from twenty

80
00:04:39.879 --> 00:04:43.120
twenty one to twenty four Little Trivia. He is the

81
00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:45.720
only actor to be in all seven Child's Play films,

82
00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:48.920
although he only appeared on screen in Child's Play from

83
00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:51.399
eighty eight and Curse of Chucky in twenty thirteen, and

84
00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:53.800
all the other films his performance was voice acting. Only.

85
00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:57.720
Out of all the Child's Play films, Bride of Chucky

86
00:04:58.040 --> 00:05:02.600
from ninety eight is his favorite. Brad Dorif always a

87
00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:03.480
pleasure to see him.

88
00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:08.120
Oh yeah, definitely. I went with actress Catherine Mary Hicks,

89
00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:10.360
who was born in New York City but grew up

90
00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:14.000
in Scottsdale, Arizona. Her academic path took her to Saint

91
00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:17.160
Mary's College to affiliate with Notre Dame, where she studied

92
00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:20.160
English literature, but the pull of the stage was strong,

93
00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:23.600
and she eventually made her way to Cornell University, where

94
00:05:23.639 --> 00:05:27.079
her passion for acting truly came alive. After Cornell, she

95
00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:29.720
moved to New York and things moved pretty fast. Within

96
00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:32.879
just a week, she landed her first professional gig on

97
00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:37.319
the ABC daytime soap Ryan's Hope. That kicked off her

98
00:05:37.319 --> 00:05:39.600
career that would make her one of the familiar faces

99
00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:42.600
of the eighties film and television. She appeared in Ryan's

100
00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:46.519
Hope from seventy six to seventy eight, then made a

101
00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:50.680
splash on Broadway in Tribute for eight months. Hollywood soon

102
00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:54.720
came calling as Catherine's breakout moment came when she portrayed

103
00:05:54.759 --> 00:05:58.920
Marilyn Monroe in Marylyn The Untold Story in nineteen eighty,

104
00:05:59.079 --> 00:06:02.720
a performance at earned turn Emmy nomination and international attention.

105
00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:06.199
Throughout the early eighties, Hicks appeared in a string of

106
00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:10.639
notable films including Death Valley, Garbo Talks, The Razor's Edge,

107
00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:13.360
and Peggy Sue Got Married, which we covered in Season four.

108
00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:17.560
Then came her most iconic role as doctor Gillian Taylor

109
00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:20.680
in Star Trek four The Voyage Home. But horror fans

110
00:06:20.879 --> 00:06:24.759
know her best is Karen Barclay The Mother and Child's Play,

111
00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:27.399
the film that introduced the world to Chucky. Not only

112
00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:29.759
did it cement her status in the horror genre, it's

113
00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:33.360
also where she met her future husband, special effects designer

114
00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:36.160
Kevin Jeger. The Too Married to Welcome the Daughter in

115
00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:39.879
nineteen ninety two. Then in nineteen ninety six, she found

116
00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:43.360
a new kind of fame as Anne Camden, The matriarch

117
00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:46.800
on the long running TV series Seventh Heaven Show became

118
00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:48.959
a family favorite and stayed on the air for an

119
00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:53.040
impressive eleven seasons, ending in two thousand and seven actress

120
00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:58.279
Catherine Hicks. So that leads us to our earliest memories, Jason,

121
00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:00.720
what are your earliest memories of Job's Play?

122
00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:04.759
You know what, It's interesting, it's mostly feelings. Those are

123
00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:07.639
my memories regarding Child's Play. This movie came out when

124
00:07:07.639 --> 00:07:11.759
I was fifteen, and I can still recall being nervous

125
00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:14.480
to watch it because I am a scaredy cat, as

126
00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:17.319
I've mentioned so many times, and so I was recalling

127
00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:21.079
my early feelings just for this particular segment. And I

128
00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:23.519
actually thought I was younger when this movie came out,

129
00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:25.519
because I was like, oh yeah, I remember being really

130
00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:27.399
scared when this movie came out, as if I was

131
00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:30.560
like a little kid, but I was freaking fifteen. So

132
00:07:30.680 --> 00:07:33.959
all I can say is I remember the concept really

133
00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:36.480
creeping me out. That it was a kind of a

134
00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:40.959
dark idea involving obviously this doll that is possessed by

135
00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:44.279
a serial killer, and it had a supernatural aspect that

136
00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:47.319
kind of weirded me out. I don't know, maybe the

137
00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:49.839
fact that it takes place in Chicago bothered me too,

138
00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:53.000
and I was growing up outside Chicago. My earliest memories

139
00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:57.680
just revolve around those creepy feelings surrounding it. I thought

140
00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:03.600
the doll, of course, was supremely scary. I thought the

141
00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:06.160
voice was creepy. So I mean, I remember seeing the

142
00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:09.560
previews for it. Then eventually, of course I did see

143
00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:13.560
this film. I can honestly say that, but around that time,

144
00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:16.560
I do recall the my Buddy Doll being a thing

145
00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:18.759
and the commercials for that, along with the catchy song

146
00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:22.079
that came along with that. But from the film Child's Play,

147
00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:26.879
the memories are basically of Chucky saying Hi, I'm Chucky,

148
00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:29.920
want to play and the Heidi ho and just saying

149
00:08:29.920 --> 00:08:32.000
that over and over to your friends because it was

150
00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:34.480
just super creepy. But that's it. That's all I got.

151
00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:38.720
I hadn't seen or heard of like a movie before

152
00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:43.960
this involving a possessed doll. Somehow it taps into something

153
00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:46.399
that's very scary for me. So that's all I got.

154
00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:48.320
What are your earliest memories for me?

155
00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:52.440
I remember when the trailers a commercials started coming out,

156
00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:55.519
and I was always that shot of well, which found

157
00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:57.759
out it was Maggie falling out the window, right, But

158
00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:01.519
overall I was like, yeah, this isn't for me. I'm

159
00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:03.799
not gonna see it or run out to see it

160
00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:06.080
anytime soon. But then when it finally came out it

161
00:09:06.120 --> 00:09:08.879
was number one the box office, I was like, WHOA, Okay,

162
00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:12.039
So I think just because it did well in the

163
00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:17.000
box office for a horror film, that really piqued my curiosity.

164
00:09:17.039 --> 00:09:19.799
So when it came out on rental, I did end

165
00:09:19.879 --> 00:09:23.399
up running it, and I was kind of surprised about

166
00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:26.720
how much I liked it. It was one of those

167
00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:29.000
I just wasn't sure how it was going to work

168
00:09:29.039 --> 00:09:31.399
with the story, but I thought it did at the time.

169
00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:35.440
And yeah, just kind of became a fan of Chucky

170
00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:37.480
for it. But I mean, when you talk about your

171
00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:40.960
eighty Slasher icons, Chucky for Me is down the list.

172
00:09:40.960 --> 00:09:43.320
I don't watch these movies a lot. I don't even

173
00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:45.799
know if I've seen all the films. I know I've

174
00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:47.679
seen most of it was gonna be my follow up question.

175
00:09:47.759 --> 00:09:50.039
I definitely know I saw a Bride two. I'm not

176
00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:54.000
sure if I saw three. I've probably seen five of them. Wow, Okay, Well,

177
00:09:54.039 --> 00:09:56.679
that's impressive. Unto itself, I haven't. Yeah, just because it

178
00:09:56.759 --> 00:09:58.960
did well in the box office was really the reason

179
00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:00.720
why I was like, all right, I need to check

180
00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:03.240
this out. If people are going to see it, hopefully

181
00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:05.720
it's at least somewhat decent. And I was just kind

182
00:10:05.759 --> 00:10:08.159
of surprised that it did work. And that's it for me.

183
00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:10.240
There you go, short and sweet, but I agree. Yeah,

184
00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:13.039
I have only seen bits and pieces from the sequels.

185
00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:19.120
I seem to recall that the word of mouth on

186
00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:21.799
the TV series was very positive and it went for

187
00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:24.159
a few seasons, I want to say, but I still

188
00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:26.759
never watched it. I was good with just the first movie.

189
00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:27.679
Gotcha all r.

190
00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:29.840
Let's move on to initial thoughts. Where are your initial

191
00:10:29.879 --> 00:10:31.679
thoughts watching it now?

192
00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:34.879
Well, you mentioned the total running time at the top,

193
00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:37.320
and that's the first thing. I love the fact that

194
00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:39.320
this movie is only an hour and twenty seven minutes.

195
00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:43.240
It's perfect for an good eighties campy, cheesy horror movie.

196
00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:47.279
It's perfect for this. I gotta say, this movie moves.

197
00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:52.000
It does not waste any time, and I definitely appreciate that.

198
00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:54.519
I love a movie that gets right to it. We're

199
00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:58.840
not sitting through opening credits alone. We actually get an

200
00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:01.919
action sequence right from the top. We get right to it.

201
00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:06.279
Although the credits do appear during the action sequence. I

202
00:11:06.360 --> 00:11:08.799
kind of like that. I have mixed feelings about it.

203
00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:12.000
There were some that were like credits that appeared in

204
00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:14.080
moments that I was like, oh wow, did they time

205
00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:17.879
that just perfectly with the you know, Braddorriff's name appearing

206
00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:20.840
right as it's focused on him. I'll get into that

207
00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:23.120
a little bit later actually, but the opening was strong,

208
00:11:23.159 --> 00:11:25.879
great setup for an eighties horror movie. As mentioned, the

209
00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:29.919
idea of this with the supernatural aspect still kind of

210
00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:32.480
creeps me out, especially as I mentioned when I was young.

211
00:11:32.519 --> 00:11:34.840
But now I look back upon it and I'm like,

212
00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:37.039
this is fun. This is just kind of a fun

213
00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:40.919
conceit for a B horror movie, So you just go

214
00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:43.960
with it. Nice and simple, easy setup. I get it.

215
00:11:44.279 --> 00:11:48.440
I love this Braddriff's character. He is supposed to be

216
00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:52.320
a serial killer with the moniker, this strangler, but his

217
00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:56.200
actual name is Charles Lee Ray. Great name for a

218
00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:58.440
serial killer, and I'm gonna step on some trivia real quick.

219
00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:02.039
They clearly borrowed part of names from real serial killers.

220
00:12:02.039 --> 00:12:05.879
Are notorious figures such as Lee, Harvey Oswald, Charles Manson,

221
00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:08.000
and James Earl Ray. So you just put it together,

222
00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:10.840
you get Charles Lee Ray. I have a question for you,

223
00:12:10.919 --> 00:12:12.919
Bill Bant, speaking of one of the opening scenes in

224
00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:16.399
this movie, is the scariest scene in the entire film

225
00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:20.120
of child's play, Andy himself making breakfast in bed for

226
00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:20.480
his mom.

227
00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:22.720
I was gonna maybe ask you about that. It was like,

228
00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:25.639
is that the worst breakfast we've ever seen on film?

229
00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:29.720
I'm pretty sure there's another movie where someone makes a

230
00:12:29.799 --> 00:12:32.600
terrible breakfast for their mom or dad, but that's got

231
00:12:32.600 --> 00:12:35.159
to be one of the worst breakfasts I've ever seen

232
00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:35.720
in my life.

233
00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:37.840
At first, I thought he was making it for himself,

234
00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:39.840
but then it's clear he's making it for his mother.

235
00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:43.360
But you know, the movie opens on Andy's birthday, the

236
00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:46.679
six year old boy, and he's pouring what is it like,

237
00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:49.240
fruit loops into a bowl that he spills all over

238
00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:51.080
the place, and then he pours milk all over it,

239
00:12:51.120 --> 00:12:53.480
which he spills all over the place, puts like seventeen

240
00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:56.320
scoops of sugar on top of it, and then burns

241
00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:59.679
the toast and puts a giant ball of butter on

242
00:12:59.679 --> 00:13:02.879
top of It is just super gross. It is Is

243
00:13:02.919 --> 00:13:06.440
this the freakiest scene in the entire movie. I want

244
00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:09.360
to also shout out some you know, some Chicago aspects,

245
00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:12.279
and this is a pretty solid Chicago movie. Always loved

246
00:13:12.279 --> 00:13:17.000
seeing the old Chicago police squad cars. Carson Pierri Scott.

247
00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:20.759
I totally forgot about this retail department store. And I

248
00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:23.120
got to mention a little trivia regarding this because this

249
00:13:23.240 --> 00:13:27.480
is where Andy's mother Karen played by Catherine Hicks works.

250
00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:30.720
She works at Carson Pierri Scotton Company. It was a

251
00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:33.799
former American department store that was sold in two thousand

252
00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:36.679
and six and went bankrupt in twenty eighteen and closed

253
00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:41.000
all its physical locations. They were still around as recent

254
00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:43.320
as what seven years ago. Oh, I didn't know that

255
00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:46.039
was a real place. Oh yeah, absolutely. Oh that's awesome.

256
00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:49.919
So the brand still exists online, but the original flagship

257
00:13:49.960 --> 00:13:53.559
building was in Chicago, a famous work by architect Lewis

258
00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:56.960
Sullivan and is now called the Sullivan Center and houses

259
00:13:57.039 --> 00:14:00.600
various retailers, including a Target on the ground floor. So

260
00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:06.240
Carson Berry Scott was mainly a Midwestern retail merchandise department store.

261
00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:07.679
So I was going to ask you if you had

262
00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:12.440
that in Philly. Nope, no, Okay. So here's one thing. Now,

263
00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:14.840
I'm going to get into some just I'm pointing out

264
00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:17.360
some things here that caught me off guard or surprised

265
00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:20.000
me in this. I watched this thinking I was going

266
00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:22.799
to remember a lot, but some things did surprise me.

267
00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:27.039
One being that when Andy finally, you know, he gets

268
00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:32.759
the good guy's doll, which is Chucky, it sits Chucky

269
00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:35.879
down with he's playing with Chucky, and he's playing with

270
00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:41.080
the good guy's tool set, and behind them, the TV

271
00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:44.879
is on with a newscast, and the newscast is speaking

272
00:14:44.919 --> 00:14:49.679
of Charles Lee Ray's accomplice Eddie Caputo, and you see

273
00:14:49.799 --> 00:14:53.279
Chucky turn his head to look at the TV, and

274
00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:56.039
I was like, wow, they give it away right away.

275
00:14:56.440 --> 00:14:58.799
Like we understand as an audience, especially as adults, you

276
00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:00.759
watch this, you know the doll is possessed by the

277
00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:03.279
serial killer Charles Lee Ray. But I was surprised in

278
00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:06.639
the film that the doll itself than in once in

279
00:15:06.840 --> 00:15:09.519
under the ownership of Andy turns his head like that

280
00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:12.720
so quickly. That's a tell, Like that's like giving it

281
00:15:12.759 --> 00:15:14.360
away right away. I thought there was going to be

282
00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:17.679
more build up and tension before we actually saw the

283
00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:18.840
doll move.

284
00:15:19.159 --> 00:15:22.279
Under its own power. I think because we know. Yeah,

285
00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:24.480
But part of me thinks too, because when I was

286
00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:26.879
doing the research, I think the first half or the

287
00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:28.720
first acts is supposed to set up if we're not

288
00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:31.799
one hundred perck shut sure that it is possessed, so

289
00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:34.279
it might be sound activated. So it's just turning to

290
00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:37.480
the TV. Okay, that's where the noise is coming from. Right,

291
00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:40.480
But because we know what's going on, it does seem

292
00:15:40.519 --> 00:15:41.279
like it's a giveaway.

293
00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:43.600
Yeah. That just kind of broke the tension for me

294
00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:46.519
really soon quickly in the film, and I was right,

295
00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:49.200
oh wow, they're just like giving it away. But it's

296
00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:51.320
interesting you mentioned that you would think the doll is

297
00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:53.480
sound activate, which leads into my next thought. Here is

298
00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:56.240
the fact that the way they shoot Chucky in this

299
00:15:56.480 --> 00:16:00.639
is wonderful. The doll. There's always something inherently creepy about

300
00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:04.440
a doll's eyes, the lifelessness of a doll. It always

301
00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:07.279
makes me think of the famous monologue from Jaws, your

302
00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:11.240
favorite movie, the Quint monologue. He talks about a shark's

303
00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:15.240
size a doll's eyes right, always scary, So all of

304
00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:19.440
those shots of Chucky the good Guy's doll sitting motionless

305
00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:23.879
are just really effective. They really really did a great

306
00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:26.720
job with that. And when you talked about the doll

307
00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:28.840
being sound activated, I had a question for you too,

308
00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:32.639
because one Andy pulls the doll out of the box

309
00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:35.279
for the very first time and shows his mom how

310
00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:37.879
it works, and he says, Hi, my name is Andy,

311
00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:40.159
what's your name or something to that effect, and then

312
00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:44.960
immediately you see the Chucky doll look right at Andy.

313
00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:49.200
He looks at him and then says, Hi, I'm Chucky

314
00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:52.159
and I'll be your friend. To the end, I was like, Oh,

315
00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:55.639
is that kind of a tell as in the doll

316
00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:58.919
is like possessed by a human spirit or does the

317
00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:01.960
doll have the ability to actually look where the sound

318
00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:05.519
is coming from, because he looks right at Andy, right exactly.

319
00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:07.839
And you would think they could probably make dolls like

320
00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:11.680
that today, but back in the vies, probably not. It

321
00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:14.279
would maybe just reac looking straight right. It would just

322
00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:17.319
look straight ahead and hear the voice and then respond

323
00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:20.200
with one of the probably to one of its random passages,

324
00:17:20.240 --> 00:17:22.400
but just happens to do the right one, like Hi,

325
00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:23.119
my name's Chucky.

326
00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:25.200
Yeah, I just thought that was great. It was really

327
00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:27.799
creepy because I only caught it up on Rewatch. I'm like,

328
00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:30.839
oh my god, the doll actually looks right into Andy's

329
00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:32.480
eyes and says it, and I like how it.

330
00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:34.799
Always emphasizes the sounds of the blinks.

331
00:17:36.519 --> 00:17:39.200
There's some great sound design in this, especially regarding the

332
00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:42.000
doll and his movements. Let's get into some of the actors.

333
00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:44.359
We mentioned Catherine Hicks and Brad Dorf, but this does

334
00:17:44.440 --> 00:17:51.000
also star Chris Sarandon, who portrays the male detective Michael Norris.

335
00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:54.319
Which is really funny because before I even watched this,

336
00:17:54.680 --> 00:17:58.440
after so many years, I assumed the actor Michael Newry

337
00:17:59.039 --> 00:18:01.759
was the star of the because I always get Michael

338
00:18:01.799 --> 00:18:05.079
Newry and Chris Sarandon mixed up with good reason. Often

339
00:18:05.119 --> 00:18:07.519
people would back in the eighties they'd look very similar

340
00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:09.839
to and they were in big movies. And we did

341
00:18:09.880 --> 00:18:13.440
Flash Dance starring Michael Newry, we did The Hidden with

342
00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:16.279
Michael Newry and Chris Sarandon. Of course we covered in

343
00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:20.079
Prince's Bride and now Here he is in Child's Play

344
00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:22.839
and they purposely, as you find out in the trivia,

345
00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:26.720
the detective name Michael Norris, which is very close to

346
00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:29.319
the name Michael Murray. So I thought that was funny.

347
00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:32.000
Good to see Chris Sarandon in this. How did you

348
00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:34.920
feel about his performance? I don't know if it was

349
00:18:35.400 --> 00:18:37.480
the fault of the writing or he just wasn't given

350
00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:39.759
a whole lot to do in this. As a detective.

351
00:18:39.799 --> 00:18:41.519
I thought he was a pretty good cop in the

352
00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:44.039
opening sequence, but after that I was like, is he

353
00:18:44.119 --> 00:18:47.000
a good detective and or is this a good performance?

354
00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:49.400
I was mixed on Chris Sarandon in this.

355
00:18:49.839 --> 00:18:52.079
I think what was kind of throwing me off was

356
00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:52.720
his voice.

357
00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:55.200
Yeah, okay, thanks, sure.

358
00:18:55.279 --> 00:18:58.200
I think I'm so used to hearing him from Princess

359
00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:00.200
Bride or even Fright Night.

360
00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:02.160
Right I should have mentioned Fright Night, that's the obvious one.

361
00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:04.319
Yeah yeah, And I was like, is he trying to

362
00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:07.839
do a Chicago accent or something. It didn't sound like

363
00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:11.640
it was him, So that was kind of throwing me off.

364
00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:14.759
One of my complaints is a whole Chucky attacks them

365
00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:19.000
in the car scene I thought was very hokey. Okay, sure,

366
00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:22.039
but overall I didn't have a prop He just played

367
00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:24.480
the I don't believe what you're saying, and do you

368
00:19:24.519 --> 00:19:27.319
find out it's too late kind of character, kind of

369
00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:28.599
by the numbers, right.

370
00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:30.880
I agree, he's just kind of like, what are you

371
00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:33.599
talking about? This doll is not alive. That's ridiculous. And

372
00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:36.960
then also he's rendered useless in the final scene. We'll

373
00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:39.359
get into the ridiculous, but we'll probably talk Yeah, we

374
00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:43.640
will definitely talk about the entire twenty minute final sequence.

375
00:19:43.720 --> 00:19:46.200
So Catherine Hicks, I thought was great. She plays it

376
00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:49.799
well the mom, the single, hard working mom who just

377
00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:51.720
really wants to believe her son, but it's just too

378
00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:54.839
unbelievable until, of course she has to believe him and

379
00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:57.960
turns out. Catherine Hicks won a Saturn Award for this.

380
00:19:58.200 --> 00:20:01.519
I didn't know that Brad Dorf talked about him. He's awesome.

381
00:20:01.880 --> 00:20:04.720
He's great in the opening sequence, but also his voice

382
00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:08.079
is perfect for Chucky. I like what he does with that.

383
00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:11.319
But the star of the movie in the standout is obvious.

384
00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:14.640
It's Chucky. It's the doll. I mean, yes, the voiceover

385
00:20:14.680 --> 00:20:16.799
work is amazing, but it's the stunt work. It's the

386
00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:20.200
animatronic work, it's the makeup, it's the editing. It's fantastic.

387
00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:22.720
And I couldn't believe Bill Band how well it holds

388
00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:26.079
up today. Chucky looks awesome in this. To me, I

389
00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:28.720
go with it. The suspension of disbelief is there. For me.

390
00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:31.880
It went to the point of me asking how did

391
00:20:31.920 --> 00:20:35.000
they do that? It's really well done the way they

392
00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:37.920
cut around it, so you're not trying to match Brad

393
00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:40.440
Dorff's voice to the lip movement too much. You're not

394
00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:44.759
like they cut around you just buy it. I thought overall,

395
00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:48.240
the kill sequences or the action scenes were pretty well

396
00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:52.079
choreographed and well shot. So that's the best thing I

397
00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:54.240
can say about this movie is what they did with

398
00:20:54.279 --> 00:20:56.920
the doll and how they shot it. And the creep

399
00:20:56.960 --> 00:20:59.599
factor is an eleven out of ten. On another positive note,

400
00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:01.599
I'll say music I thought was pretty good in this,

401
00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:06.240
so credit to Joseph Renzetti who went with a collection

402
00:21:06.319 --> 00:21:09.359
of electronic and orchestral elements versus going with a full

403
00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:11.440
orchestral score, which is what the studio and I guess

404
00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:14.079
Tom Holland wanted. Originally thought the music was pretty good,

405
00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:15.759
but I want to go back to Chucky the Doll.

406
00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:19.039
Did you have any comments just on the effectiveness of

407
00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:21.559
the good Guy's doll of the Chucky doll and how

408
00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:22.400
they used it.

409
00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:26.079
I was really watching that just to see when do

410
00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:29.519
they use what here? For me, I only pointed to

411
00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:32.680
two shots where I was like, oh, okay, it's obvious

412
00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:35.519
what they're doing here. That was it, and the rest

413
00:21:35.559 --> 00:21:38.119
of it was like, Wow, I'm in this is cool.

414
00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:41.480
I love the animatronics or it's a puppet or if

415
00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:44.079
it was a person, it was like, no, this really works.

416
00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:47.440
And even when they did the melted version, I was like, oh, yeah,

417
00:21:47.480 --> 00:21:50.400
this is fucking cool too. I agree from nineteen eighty

418
00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:53.480
eight holds up really well, and just even the evolution

419
00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:56.039
of what you see in the beginning and what it

420
00:21:56.160 --> 00:22:00.599
ends up because he's technically morphing into human. I was

421
00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:02.799
just gonna say that I liked it all and there

422
00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:06.079
was so many times it was shit, how did they

423
00:22:06.119 --> 00:22:08.680
do that? I don't have CGI to erase stuff.

424
00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:09.200
Mm hmm.

425
00:22:09.400 --> 00:22:10.960
So at yeah, a lot of fun stuff with that.

426
00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:13.079
Yeah, and we'll probably talk a little more about that

427
00:22:13.119 --> 00:22:16.759
in our trivia segment. So those are the positives. It's

428
00:22:16.799 --> 00:22:20.640
the doll, the action sequences, the editing I thought was great.

429
00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:23.960
So those are the strong points. The music I mentioned,

430
00:22:24.519 --> 00:22:28.839
but overall, regarding the story as an adult rewatching this today,

431
00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:31.200
I got some issues and I'm going to save most

432
00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:33.119
of those for the complaint segment, but to give you

433
00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:37.720
a preview, the writing isn't really strong in this. Some

434
00:22:37.799 --> 00:22:40.720
of the scenes were really oddly structured. I had to

435
00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:42.559
rewatch a couple of scenes and I was like, wait,

436
00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:45.839
the dialogue's backwards here, or wait, we don't know that

437
00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:49.400
information yet yet they spoke a line in reference to

438
00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:52.759
that information. It was very odd how it was written

439
00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:54.839
in spots, and I was like, we must have missed

440
00:22:54.880 --> 00:22:57.200
something or there was a scene that was left on

441
00:22:57.240 --> 00:22:59.839
the cutting room. I was confused. At moments, I knew

442
00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:02.200
was going on, and I understood what they were trying

443
00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:05.119
to relay as far as information and detail, but it

444
00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:08.559
just it was odd. I didn't mind like the tone

445
00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:12.200
shifting between horror and dark comedy at times, at very

446
00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:16.440
Freddy Krueger esque type quips you know that Chucky delivers throughout.

447
00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:19.480
But I found when I watched it today that I

448
00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:22.039
wished it was even scarier, and I thought it could

449
00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:24.160
have been even creepier than it was, even though I

450
00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:26.799
said creep factor eleven out of ten. Because the way

451
00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:29.319
they did shoot the doll, it was like Man, we

452
00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:32.240
could probably could have done even more with this, So

453
00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:34.640
I'm going back a little bit on what I said

454
00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:36.240
that I'd love the running time of an hour and

455
00:23:36.279 --> 00:23:38.680
twenty seven minutes, but I could have used maybe maybe

456
00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:40.799
ten more minutes. I don't know. I'm a little mixed

457
00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:42.440
on that. And I was going to ask you if

458
00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:44.799
you saw the twenty nineteen reboot that they did.

459
00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:47.759
Yeah, I did, and I hardly remember any of it.

460
00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:50.680
I watched a couple of clips and it's very modern,

461
00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:54.319
high tech sort of take on it, and it was strange.

462
00:23:55.160 --> 00:23:57.759
My overall take was just that the concept still freaks

463
00:23:57.759 --> 00:23:59.960
me out a bit because I still have these feelings

464
00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:03.000
attached from when I was younger because of the supernatural aspect,

465
00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:06.079
and the effects are the real standout. It's just that

466
00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:08.319
the writing and a story I wished were a little

467
00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:12.160
more polished and cleaned up. So overall, still fun, just

468
00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:15.599
I found the story lacking. Gotcha, those are my initial thoughts,

469
00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:17.160
all right for me.

470
00:24:17.720 --> 00:24:20.359
The idea of a toy, or in this case, a doll,

471
00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:23.759
could be possessed by a serial killer, I mean, it's

472
00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:27.079
kind of observed, but it's also brilliant. I think as

473
00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:28.920
a kid you would always be worried about what our

474
00:24:28.960 --> 00:24:32.519
toys came alive, and this is the worst case scenario.

475
00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:36.599
I do like that they gloss over the whole voodoo

476
00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:39.480
aspect of it, so they just give you enough, but

477
00:24:39.680 --> 00:24:43.920
not too much where you start questioning everything. It only

478
00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:47.039
gave me what I needed to know to understand how

479
00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:50.000
Ray got into this doll and then what he has

480
00:24:50.079 --> 00:24:52.759
to do next. I didn't need anything else, and I

481
00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:55.759
wasn't questioning at that point. I'm like, Okay, he learned

482
00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:58.440
how to do this, put himself in a doll, and

483
00:24:58.519 --> 00:25:00.519
now he once to get out of the doll. He

484
00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:04.920
needs to go possess himself into the kid perfect no more,

485
00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:08.799
no less awesome, and then how to kill Chucky at

486
00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:11.079
that point too, That's all I needed. That was fine,

487
00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:15.160
but I totally agree with the actors were saying lines

488
00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:17.720
about stuff they shouldn't have known at that point. That

489
00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:19.880
was the best way to put it. Yeah, I totally

490
00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:23.880
agree with that. As for the performances, I really liked

491
00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:27.359
Alex Vincent as Andy Good Call. There was a scene

492
00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:30.359
when he first opens the doll and the doll talks him,

493
00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:32.440
and the way he puts his hand to his mouth

494
00:25:32.920 --> 00:25:36.079
he's excited. I remember seeing my kids do that that

495
00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:40.519
trying to stifle a giggle, so I thought that was cute.

496
00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:45.440
Brad doriff As his vocal performance as Chucky when he's

497
00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:49.359
screaming in the toy store. I mean, for me, I

498
00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:53.720
mostly do remember him from Alien Resurrection and One Flu

499
00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:55.880
of the Cuckoo's Nest and One Flu Cucka's Nest. He's

500
00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:59.279
just a really timid character. So to see this other

501
00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:01.799
side of him, Yeah, that just got me jacked up.

502
00:26:01.839 --> 00:26:04.039
And I'm like, oh, wow, you really hear Chucky's voice

503
00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:06.279
in this, and it's great how it carries over to

504
00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:10.160
Chucky itself throughout the film. And I don't think I

505
00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:12.599
can say anything else more with the special effects, in fact,

506
00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:15.160
you don't really have CGI back then, and all the

507
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:17.519
stuff they were able to do with Chucky, I was

508
00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:20.519
super impressed with. It's a well crafted film. I think

509
00:26:20.559 --> 00:26:22.160
it works. But I do agree with you there are

510
00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:27.559
some story elements that it's always characters' choices that always

511
00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:30.160
just drive me up the wall when they don't make sense,

512
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:32.039
And there's right, that's it.

513
00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:35.079
There's a little bit of this throughout. I wrote that

514
00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:35.759
down as well.

515
00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:38.000
Yeah, and That's what drives me up the wall. I'm like,

516
00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:40.160
why are you doing this? It doesn't make any sense.

517
00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:42.279
But that's yeah, that's my initial thoughts. I don't think

518
00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:44.240
I have that much more to add than what you had.

519
00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:46.880
I'll yeah, and I'll just reinforce the fact that Alex

520
00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:50.920
Vincent was wonderful as the child as Andy, Yeah, I'm

521
00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:54.880
glad you called that out, because he's fantastic, He's very

522
00:26:54.920 --> 00:26:55.599
he's natural.

523
00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:57.720
Yeah, because that's the two things you really need to work.

524
00:26:58.119 --> 00:27:00.480
The kid has to work and the doll have to work,

525
00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:01.559
and both of them.

526
00:27:01.640 --> 00:27:05.279
You got to sympathize with him, right or empathize? Yeah, Andy,

527
00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:06.759
for sure, you have to connect.

528
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:09.359
So the fact they both work and it comes off,

529
00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:12.400
that's what makes the movie go. All right, let's move

530
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:16.279
on to favorite scenes or moments. What are some favorite

531
00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:18.440
scenes or moments you have from Child's Play.

532
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:22.640
You're gonna be shocked, but I'm gonna start from the beginning.

533
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:25.599
I'm gonna start with the opening sequence. We just go

534
00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:29.039
right after the the opening production shingles that we just

535
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:30.880
get right into this movie, and I love it. We

536
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:34.279
can see what we assume is a cop chasing a

537
00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:37.359
bad guy down an alley. Little trivia here. I don't

538
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:38.920
know if you caught this, and I hope I'm not

539
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:41.559
stepping on one of your trivia bites. But there was

540
00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:45.119
a deleted scene where Chris Sarandon as the detective, as

541
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.759
the cop in this opening sequence, was kind of luring

542
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:51.160
the strangler in. He was dressed as a woman.

543
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:54.440
Oh, yes, that's right. I did read that, and then

544
00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:57.839
it made sense. It was tossing some clothes away when

545
00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:01.319
he was chasing, like he's throwing a dress. Yeah, very

546
00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:04.480
opening shot. You see Chris Sarandon in the background chasing

547
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:08.279
the strangler and he's tossing a dress off to the side.

548
00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:11.319
That's why it is, because he was he was in

549
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:15.559
costume trying to bait the strangler. So I thought that

550
00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:19.160
was cool. So we see cop chasing bad guy in

551
00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:22.119
the cop yells i've got the strangler. Wabash and Van Buren,

552
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:25.799
those streets in Chicago. We know we're downtown Chicago. And

553
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:27.839
then we see another cop in an unmarked squad car

554
00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:30.319
turn the siren light on and well, our bad guy,

555
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:33.640
the Strangler, turns a corner. He and the cop change

556
00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.519
exchanged some gunfire. We see the strangler approaching a parked

557
00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:40.640
van off to the side, but before he gets to

558
00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:44.440
the van, our supposed good guy cop shoots the strangler

559
00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:46.160
in the leg. He goes down, and the guy in

560
00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:49.920
the escape van, well, he panics and he takes off. Meanwhile,

561
00:28:50.200 --> 00:28:52.319
our bad guy, the strangler is yelling after him and

562
00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:55.680
he says, Eddie, don't leave me. Oh god no. Another

563
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:59.640
great moment from Brad Dorif. He sounds like he's really

564
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:02.240
scared in that moment. Actually, I was like, wow, that's

565
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:06.200
a great line delivery. So meanwhile we have our detective

566
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:08.400
or cop telling his buddy in the squad car to

567
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:11.599
go after the van, and now we're just focusing on

568
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:15.519
cop and bad guy. Cop continues the pursuit of the strangler.

569
00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:18.000
The strangler hobbles, having been shot in the leg, over

570
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:21.279
to a toy store and he shoots the lock off

571
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:25.119
of the door, goes inside, and now we have our

572
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:28.720
detective played by Chris Randon, following him into the toy store,

573
00:29:28.839 --> 00:29:32.440
gun drawn, of course. And this is great because this

574
00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:36.680
is when we see the entire uh it's actually like

575
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.000
two rows of stacked good guy's dolls boxes with the

576
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:44.240
dolls inside, and that's when the title credit comes up

577
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:47.680
Child's play and I thought that was smart. That's really cool.

578
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:51.039
Our detective is in pursuit inside the toy store. While

579
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:54.440
they're inside, the detective manages to shoot the strangler in

580
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:58.400
the chest shoulder area. The strangler knows he's dying and

581
00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:00.279
he just yells out, this is the moment you were

582
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:03.079
referring to Bill ban and it's wonderful from Brad Dorif.

583
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:06.039
He changes his voice because you see him and he's

584
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:08.319
like looking down at his gun shot wound. He's like,

585
00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:10.799
I'm dying. I'm dying. And then all of a sudden,

586
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:13.920
he changes his tone and he yells out. He's like,

587
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:16.240
you hear this, you son of a bitch. I'm gonna

588
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:17.799
get you for it. I'm gonna get you. I'm gonna

589
00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:21.079
get you, and I'm gonna get Eddie no matter what.

590
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:23.319
And it's just awesome.

591
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:24.079
Yeah.

592
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:28.440
So the strangler now is stumbling around, he is dying,

593
00:30:28.599 --> 00:30:31.160
and he's saying to himself, I gotta find somebody. I

594
00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:35.119
gotta find somebody. He finally falls over, grabbing and knocking

595
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:38.279
over a bunch of good guys doll boxes. He looks

596
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:39.960
into the eyes of the doll inside of one of

597
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:42.440
the boxes, takes it out, puts his bloody hands on it,

598
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:45.720
and begins an incantation saying, give me the power I

599
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:48.079
beg of you. And as he begins chanting, suddenly the

600
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:51.200
clouds in the sky above the toy store start to

601
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:54.119
gather lightning and thunder begin to crash, and as his

602
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:57.839
chanting gets louder and louder, finally the lightning crashes through

603
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:00.599
the glass ceiling of the store and there's a giant explosion.

604
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:06.119
Love the stunt where the detective is blown backward through

605
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:09.720
the store and we get this great storefront glass explosion.

606
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:14.160
It's a wonderful explosion. And then finally the detective walks

607
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:18.200
through the store and sees that the strangler is now dead.

608
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:21.240
And the final shot of this opening scene is on

609
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:25.400
the eyes of the good guy doll. It's just a

610
00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:27.519
great way to open the movie. I love the fact,

611
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:30.799
Bill that you'd already pointed out that we don't dwell

612
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.440
too much on the voodoo aspect in this movie. You

613
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:36.079
just get it. You're like, Okay, great setup. I know

614
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:38.880
exactly where we're going. I know who the good guy is,

615
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:40.519
I know who the bad guy is. I know that

616
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:42.279
the doll is going to be possessed by the bad

617
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:44.839
guy spirit. It's all the information you need to get

618
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.960
this thing going. And there's some good action. It's well shot,

619
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:52.039
and the stunts are great and the explosion is great.

620
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:54.920
What more do you want from an eighties horror movie

621
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:57.920
to get kicked off? The choice to do the opening

622
00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:02.440
credits kind of subtly or softly throughout that opening scene works.

623
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:04.240
I was a little mixed out, but I think it

624
00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:05.559
does work. Yeah.

625
00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:08.599
I did like that they did that, and Brad doorf

626
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:12.240
in that too, because I do like the scene when

627
00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:15.359
he looks down at himself and says I'm dying, and

628
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:17.759
he says in a way where you almost sympathize with them,

629
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:19.599
but you're like, wait a second, he's a serial killer.

630
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:23.119
I shouldn't be sympathizing. And then he just reverses course

631
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:27.960
and starts screaming at detecting Norris that I'm I'm gonna

632
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:31.039
get you, and that voice does a one eighty. Yeah,

633
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:33.359
he's only in the film for three minutes, but it

634
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:34.440
does a great job with it.

635
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:37.279
You believe it. Yes, I love that. When he yells,

636
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:41.279
you really believe like he is he means it. It's

637
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:42.079
very dark.

638
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.039
Yeah, and it's good because they when and I'll get

639
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:48.400
into it a little bit, when Chucky does his first

640
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:52.160
freak out, it does almost mimic Brad Dorf right in

641
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:54.440
the beginning with him screaming, I'm like, wow, they really

642
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:56.960
captured that on an animatronic donef that was pretty good.

643
00:32:57.079 --> 00:33:01.839
What he says is nasty, like he's an nasty guy. No. Yeah,

644
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:04.480
that's the aspect of this character that you really buy

645
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:08.200
thanks to his performance, is that he's a bad dude. Yes,

646
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:12.279
He's just murderous and violent and that's it simple. Yeah.

647
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:14.880
So me, most of my favorite scenes are moments, are

648
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:20.279
just moments, And the first one for me is Karen,

649
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:23.079
who played by Katherine Hicks, ends up buying the doll

650
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:26.440
that's possessed to get to her son Andy. At this point,

651
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:30.119
Chucky's been doing some crazy stuff and he does find

652
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:32.920
his ex partner Eddie, who drove off in the beginning,

653
00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:36.119
and kills him. So now Andy's in the police station

654
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:41.319
explaining to an officer what had happened to his quote

655
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:44.400
unquote aunt Maggie, who was the first person that dies

656
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:47.640
by Chucky, and the mom comes into the police station

657
00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:52.559
and then Detective Norris is in there. The mom's telling Andy, look,

658
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:55.039
they're gonna take you away if you don't tell us

659
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:58.440
what happened. And Andy's like, no, it was Chucky. And

660
00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:00.519
he told me if I were to tell you that

661
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:02.839
he was alive, that he would kill me. And then

662
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:07.119
he looks at Chucky and begging him to speak to

663
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:10.719
prove that Andy's telling the truth, and of course, Chuck,

664
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:13.480
he's not doing anything. And then he goes up to

665
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:15.519
it and he's literally face to face with it, and

666
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:18.039
he's almost streaming at it, and then he's like punching

667
00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:20.599
it like he feels so betrayed. And it was one

668
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:22.719
of those I'm watching the scene and part of me

669
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:26.119
is chuckling because I just think it's funny, but the

670
00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:28.639
other half of me feels so sorry for this kid,

671
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:31.079
because here it is, here's a kid telling the truth

672
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:33.920
and no one believes him. And that's the one thing

673
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:35.840
you don't want. You want to believe what your kids

674
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:38.840
are telling you is true, but it's so impossible to

675
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:41.599
believe it. It makes sense why they're not believing him.

676
00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:44.119
I just really liked that moment. It was just pulling

677
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.360
on the hard strings and making me laugh at the

678
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:46.880
same time.

679
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:51.079
It's kind of like a story device that always is

680
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:53.639
effective when you have a kid in a situation like

681
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:56.480
that that isn't has experienced or seen something, and we've

682
00:34:56.519 --> 00:34:58.679
seen it so many times, especially like in eighties movies,

683
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:01.159
of course, from the kid's point of view, whether it's

684
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:05.840
like et or something where something supernatural, extraordinary is happening,

685
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:10.199
and the adults, of course, being somewhat either jaded or

686
00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:13.719
they're blinded for someone reason, won't believe the child. And

687
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:17.119
that's all you want is for the kid to somehow

688
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:20.679
explain it to the adult. But yeah, it's tough. It's tough.

689
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.760
It is somewhat humorous as I kind of laugh a

690
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:26.920
little bit on the inside when Andy just punches Chunky

691
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:34.840
right in his stomach trying to get it. Yeah, it's stuff, man. Yeah.

692
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.280
So what do you got next for scenes or a moment? Yeah?

693
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:41.440
So my next favorite scene, I'm just calling no batteries.

694
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:47.440
So yes. At this point, Maggie unfortunately got smacked in

695
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:50.719
the forehead with a small hammeron went flying through a window,

696
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:56.039
so she's been killed and Charles Lee Ray's accomplice Eddie,

697
00:35:56.039 --> 00:35:58.400
has been blown up in the squatter's house, and we

698
00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:01.159
know Chucky, the doll committed both, but the blame's falling

699
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:04.320
on Andy. That's what Bill was just talking about Andy

700
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:08.079
being the police precinct and being questioned. Now Karen has

701
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:11.480
shown up at the police station, and it's determined that

702
00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:13.360
Andy is going to spend a couple of days in

703
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:19.159
a psychiatric hospital. So now Karen alone comes home to

704
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:23.639
her Chicago apartment with the doll Chucky, and she sits

705
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:25.880
on the couch with it. I love the silence in

706
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:30.039
the scene really effective. She's exhausted. She puts the doll

707
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:32.800
on her lap at first, then she sits Chucky on

708
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:35.280
the coffee table and she just looks at him and says,

709
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:38.239
we'll say something, a little bastard, say something, damn it.

710
00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:41.400
And then he just goes Hi, I like to be hugged.

711
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:45.000
And she realizes, well, she's kind of falling prey to

712
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:48.960
Andy's story that he's supposedly made up, and she's feeling

713
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:51.920
a little crazy herself. And I love this shot when

714
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:54.039
she gets up and goes into the kitchen to get

715
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:56.639
a glass of water and you just see Chucky sitting

716
00:36:56.719 --> 00:37:00.159
motionless behind her on the coffee table in the background,

717
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:02.840
and I'm like, Wow, did they miss a bet here?

718
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:05.320
Should he have turned his head a little bit? But

719
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.320
super creepy with him just sitting there in the background.

720
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:11.159
You just feel maybe it's more effective because he doesn't

721
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:13.480
do anything. That's the point. You kind of think he's

722
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:16.320
about to do something there, but he doesn't. Karen looks

723
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:18.400
over in the corner of the kitchen at the good

724
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:21.840
guy's box that Chucky came in. She picks it up,

725
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:25.039
She rattles it a little bit, and suddenly a pair

726
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:28.719
of packaged batteries falls out of the box, and she's like,

727
00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:31.159
dumbfound it. She looks at the box and it reads

728
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:34.119
batteries included, and she freaks out and drops the box

729
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:36.559
because she realizes, wait a minute, the batteries are still

730
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:39.599
in the box. Then okay, So she goes over to

731
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:41.880
Chucky on the coffee table, slowly approaches him, picks him up,

732
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:45.480
turns him over, opens the battery compartment and it's empty.

733
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:49.599
Great scare moment here, because immediately his head spins around

734
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.239
and he says, Hi, I'm Chucky. Want to play? She

735
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:55.079
immediately drops him. He rolls under the couch. Super creepy

736
00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:56.960
moment when she gets down and looks under the couch

737
00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:58.880
and pulls him out. I would never do that. I

738
00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:01.360
don't have the balls to do that. I'd run out

739
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:04.519
of the apartment, super brave m She shakes him, and

740
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:07.800
now he's gone silent again. And now she's pissed, and

741
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:10.159
she's like, talk to me, come on, talk, I said

742
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:12.440
talk to me, Dan, It all right, I'll make you talk.

743
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:16.639
She lights the fireplace, holds up Chucky and says, I

744
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:18.320
said talk to me, or else I'm gonna throw you

745
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:21.239
in the fire. And all of a sudden, it's great

746
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:24.000
because it cuts back to his face and it just changes.

747
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:27.639
Chucky's face curls like and snarls, and he just says,

748
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:29.800
you stupid bitch, you filthy slut. I'll teach you to

749
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:33.920
fuck with me. And they tussle. Chucky and Karen tussle.

750
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:36.199
He ends up biting her on the forearm and runs

751
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:39.400
out of the apartment, takes the elevator down, and escapes,

752
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:43.079
all while Karen is chasing him. It's a wonderful sequence.

753
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:48.480
It's freaking freaky when he finally reveals himself, when he

754
00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:51.920
goes full Charles Lee ray on her, because he says

755
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:55.159
such like gross things right off the bat you stupid bitch,

756
00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:57.880
you filthy slug. Like it's like, whoa, this is one

757
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:01.960
angry doll. The way is face changes and the biting,

758
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:02.639
it's great.

759
00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:05.960
I like that scene, and I don't like that scene. Okay,

760
00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:08.199
I just picked out two moments. The one, of course,

761
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:11.320
is the reveal of the batteries. I thought that was cool.

762
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:13.760
And she opens it up and sees no batteries in there,

763
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:17.159
and then right away Chucky turns and frightens her, so

764
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:21.599
she drops it. And I like when she threatens Chucky

765
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:24.519
and then Chucky goes all berserk on her, and I'm like, oh,

766
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:28.199
that's really cool. But I guess for me, in a way,

767
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:30.280
the scene doesn't make sense because all right, I'm gonna

768
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:32.480
bring the doll home and then I'm start cursing at

769
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:35.079
it to get it to talk. That doesn't make any sense.

770
00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:37.800
And then the fact that she's automatically is gonna threaten

771
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:38.679
and throw it in the fire.

772
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:39.480
Mm hmm.

773
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:41.559
I don't think I would think of doing that. I

774
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:43.400
think I would have been like you, I either would

775
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:46.440
I know exactly what. Either would have ran out or

776
00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:49.440
I wouldn't have done that. And that's what was kind

777
00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:51.480
of like that doesn't make any sense to me. But

778
00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:55.199
the result of it of him going berserker and calling

779
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:57.199
her a bitch and slut and then biting her and

780
00:39:57.239 --> 00:40:00.880
running off, I do like that moment, and I agree

781
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:02.960
to I don't think Chucky should have moved when he

782
00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:04.840
was sitting there. I think it was more creepy because

783
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:07.920
as an audience, you're just so focused on gonna move,

784
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:10.840
what's he gonna do? Not doing anything with that. He's

785
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:13.760
really biding his time. I think in the inside you

786
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:15.599
want him to move, but I think they make the

787
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:17.880
right call by not having him move.

788
00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:21.920
Right. You bring up a really interesting and great point

789
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:24.599
that I totally agree with when I talk about the

790
00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:29.039
fact that this movie moves very quickly. Sometimes it's to

791
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:33.599
its credit and sometimes to its detriment, because the dialogue

792
00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:36.039
moves quickly, like doesn't make sense, or a character choice

793
00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:38.960
doesn't make sense because they're going they're just getting right

794
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:41.639
to it. Because I totally agree with you with the

795
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:45.880
fact that it seems as though she is already believing

796
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:49.079
Andy like her son too quickly when she sits down

797
00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:50.840
with the doll and starts talking to it, as if

798
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:54.159
it's like I don't think she would do that either.

799
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:57.039
I think she would just ignore the doll for a while, correct,

800
00:40:57.239 --> 00:41:00.480
because there's no way after the police precinct sequence that

801
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:02.519
she just goes homes and all of a sudden, I believe,

802
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:05.000
my son, I believe that this doll is alive. The

803
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:08.400
turn happens way too quickly. That's the thing about this

804
00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:10.599
movie is like they just are getting to it, if

805
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:13.039
you know what I mean, and it to its detriment,

806
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.440
it takes a little bit out of the believability because

807
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:17.920
you're like, no way she would already buy the fact

808
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:20.199
that this doll is alive. Now there's a little moment

809
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:22.360
where she kind of laughs at herself after the doll

810
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:25.880
doesn't react to her. But still it moves a little

811
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:27.480
a little fast, right.

812
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:29.760
And granted I understand why they have to introduce the

813
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:33.199
fireplace because it comes into play later, but sure, it

814
00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:36.519
actually would have been scarier if she lifts the couch

815
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:38.920
and then the doll's just sitting there and then she

816
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:41.000
goes to grab it and that's when it goes all persirker.

817
00:41:41.719 --> 00:41:43.199
That to me would have been more frightening.

818
00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:43.559
Yeah.

819
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:46.000
I probably would have jumped, thinking it's not doing anything,

820
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:47.719
and then she's grabbing it, and she's pulling it out

821
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:50.119
and she looks at it, and then it just and

822
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:53.039
then jumps on her from there. Instead of her setting

823
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:56.000
the fireplace and then holding it up and threatening it.

824
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:58.199
I love the shot how she turns into the camera

825
00:41:58.239 --> 00:41:59.480
with it, like you better say it's.

826
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:00.599
Up right cool shut.

827
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:05.079
I would have probably introduced the fireplace a different way.

828
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:08.760
Sure, Yeah, there's some interesting choices here. I'm of two

829
00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:11.800
minds on a lot of things within this movie. It's creepy,

830
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:14.079
but then it is a little silly when they're tussling, right,

831
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:17.000
she's you know, has to credit to create Katherine Hicks.

832
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:19.519
She's basically wrestling, you know, with a doll. Right, And

833
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:22.400
then I'm thinking, also just being a little over analytical, going,

834
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:24.679
wait a minute, isn't he supposed to be the strangler?

835
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:27.559
So I'm assuming he got that moniker from strangling women.

836
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:30.599
He's a serial killer. But now he's in this doll's

837
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:32.920
body and his hands are too small so he can't

838
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:34.960
strangle her, so he just bites her. And I was like,

839
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:38.400
maybe he's they should give him him the moniker the bier.

840
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:41.559
All right, what do you got next?

841
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:46.000
So my final favorite scene is Chucky's visit with John

842
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:49.960
aka Doctor Death. At this point in the film, we

843
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:53.559
know that Karen goes to uh Charles Lee Ray's home.

844
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:55.960
Detective Mike shows up, and they figure out that Chucky's

845
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:58.880
probably going to see this John character, with whom he

846
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:02.199
had some relationship with and regards to the voodoo rituals,

847
00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:07.000
he was either practicing rehearsing these life after death rituals

848
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:13.440
that surrounded this mighty dumbala character. So cut to John's apartment,

849
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:17.320
this African American gentleman who deals with the occult in

850
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:20.519
this voodoo aspect, and he's like going to the fridge,

851
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:22.360
and all of a sudden, he hears a voice from

852
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:26.760
behind him and it's hello John over here, and John

853
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:29.800
looks over and there's Chucky, who seems to have climbed

854
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:32.079
in through the windows, like standing near the kitchen sink,

855
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:35.920
and he's like, Hi, that's great. And this is where

856
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:38.440
I chose the scene mainly because you get to see

857
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:42.000
Chucky in all his glory. He's just standing there. You

858
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:45.840
see him thing and he's moving and talking and you're like, damn,

859
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:49.079
I'm actually buying this. Of course, Brad Dorf's voice is

860
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:51.880
great and he's like it's me, Chucky, what do you think?

861
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.639
And of course John freaks out and there's some information

862
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:59.239
that's revealed here. Chucky is upset. He's like, I didn't

863
00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:01.000
think I could get hurt, but last night I got

864
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:03.119
shot and you know something, it hurt. It hurt like

865
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:05.800
a son of a bitch, human blood. Why is that? John?

866
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:09.719
And he explains to Chucky, you're turning human and he's like, what.

867
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:12.079
The more time you spend in that body, the more

868
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:13.920
human you become. He's like, you mean I got to

869
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:15.360
live with the rest of my life in this body.

870
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:17.639
No fucking way you got me into this, John, You

871
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:21.199
get me out. And John says, hell no, you're an abomination.

872
00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:25.440
And John goes to call the cops, but Chucky all

873
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:27.800
of a sudden walks into the living room with a

874
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:31.920
voodoo doll, and this is gnarly. He's like, John, you're

875
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:34.920
not calling the cops because I've got your mojo here,

876
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:38.400
and he raises the doll and he snaps one of

877
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:41.360
the legs on the voodoo doll, and of course John's

878
00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:44.840
leg then breaks like backwards. It's gross. You hear the

879
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:48.039
crunching and the cracking. It's really gnarly. Then Chucky says, hey,

880
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:49.599
I want to know how to get out of this

881
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.280
body of this doll, and John says no, So Chucky

882
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:55.639
breaks the doll's arm, and of course John's arm breaks.

883
00:44:56.159 --> 00:45:00.480
Then Chucky threatens to stab the voodoo doll with an knife,

884
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:03.000
and then John explains to him, okay, okay, I'll tell you.

885
00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:06.039
You have to transfer your soul into the first human

886
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:10.159
being you revealed your true self too. So Chucky realizes

887
00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:13.800
the first person he revealed himself to was Andy. He's like,

888
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:15.760
I don't believe it. I'm going to be six years

889
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:18.599
old again. Well, John, it's been fun, but I gotta go.

890
00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:20.480
I have a date with a six year old boy,

891
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:22.920
and you have a date with death. And then he

892
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:26.800
stabs the voodoo doll and we see John Groening has

893
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:30.599
probably been stabbed somehow internally through the voodoo. So it's

894
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:34.360
a creepy scene. I just like how great Chucky looks

895
00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:36.440
in this where he's doing a whole walk and talk

896
00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:39.719
sort of thing in the scene, and the voodoo doll

897
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:42.800
stuff always effective in every movie I've ever seen. I

898
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.079
hate it. It's creepy. I don't know what's going on

899
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:46.960
with it. I need to do some research on that

900
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:49.280
where that all came from. But you know what's going

901
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:52.000
to happen, and what happens to John is terrible, and

902
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.679
that's great for a horror movie. It's scary. I thought

903
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:55.679
it was an effective scene.

904
00:45:55.880 --> 00:45:57.880
Yeah, I could call and I had for a moment

905
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:01.920
just the snapping of the limbs like ooh ooh, and

906
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:04.280
just how easy he could do that, just with the doll,

907
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:07.440
just snap and he just collapses that snat breaks his

908
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:10.000
arm and then just stabs the don walks off. Those

909
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:12.079
are the two moments from that scene that really stood out,

910
00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:16.159
And for me, my last two moments deal with Andy

911
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:19.639
in the psychiatric ward. And the first one is Andy's

912
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:21.880
looking out the window of his room and he sees

913
00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:24.159
Chucky out there and sees that Chuck he's making his

914
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:27.559
way to him because Andy knows he's in trouble, and

915
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:31.280
he starts calling out for help and the doctor appears

916
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:33.760
and the doctor's like, oh, we'll protective, we're protecting, and

917
00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:37.159
he's like, no, Chucky's coming for me. And he's at

918
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:40.760
that all is lost moment, and I feel so bad

919
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:43.440
for him, and he turns and just slumps down behind

920
00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:46.360
the door and just starts crying and I'm like, oh, man,

921
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:48.519
he does a good job on that. Did you have

922
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:52.639
that trivia later about that Jason that Tom Hollands supposedly stepped.

923
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:54.320
Over the line. Oh, it's funny because I mentioned et

924
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:56.920
earlier as well. Right. And you hear the behind the

925
00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:59.960
scenes stories about how Steven Spielberg was great directing chill

926
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.320
learn how he got Drew Barrymore to get to an

927
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:06.199
emotional level and deliver the tears, et cetera. And in

928
00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:10.119
this particular scenario, supposedly Tom Holland was working with Alex

929
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:14.119
Vincent playing Andy and told him to think of something sad.

930
00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:18.199
But there's something in the trivia where there's little controversy

931
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:21.119
as to what he actually said to Alex to get

932
00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:23.840
him to cry, and it was something kind of dark,

933
00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:28.480
something about imagine your parents dying or being killed or

934
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:30.519
something like that. And it worked.

935
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:34.679
Yeah, it does work. I feel terrible for him.

936
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:37.320
It's a great moment to call out Bill. He is

937
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:40.440
scared as hell in that sequence, and it seems like

938
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:44.079
whatever the actor was going through, he was really scared

939
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:46.880
for his life. He was feeling it or extremely sad

940
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:49.440
because the tears are rolling and it's totally believable.

941
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:52.519
And then the other moment is when Chucky does find

942
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:55.719
his way to Andy's room and we just have the

943
00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:58.639
scene of Chucky walking across the room and hopping him

944
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:00.760
to the bed, thinking and he's in there and he's

945
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:03.000
gonna kill him. I was like, that looked really cool.

946
00:48:03.320 --> 00:48:04.280
That really worked for me.

947
00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:04.840
Absolutely.

948
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:09.159
I'm glad Andy was able to get away, So that

949
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:09.880
was a good moment.

950
00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:11.519
I was happy for Andy as well.

951
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:17.280
All Right, so it's time to move on to Swiss

952
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:20.119
Cheese and Complaints Apartment and what do we call it

953
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:20.880
Swiss Cheese?

954
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:24.000
Because although this movie is delicious, it does have those

955
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:25.320
kitchen knife stab holes.

956
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:28.159
Yes, and it doesn't have those kitchen knife stab holes.

957
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:31.119
We just filed the complaint with the Complaints Apartment. I'm

958
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:32.760
sure we have a little bit with this one. What

959
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:35.320
do you got, Jason, Swiss Cheese, got some complaints? Which

960
00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:35.960
way do you want to go?

961
00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:37.559
You're gonna have to cut me off. I've got a

962
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:40.719
few things here. I always got to ask, as you know,

963
00:48:41.159 --> 00:48:44.400
how many bullets did they shoot? How many did they fire?

964
00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:46.960
Because it always feels like in these eighties movies, there's

965
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:49.199
no way he had that many bullets in that gun.

966
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:51.519
I had to count in that opening sequence, which could

967
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:54.480
be one of my favorite scenes. The strangler is using

968
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:57.599
a small revolver and should be only six bullets, but

969
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:00.280
of course he shot seven. Didn't go way over the

970
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:03.039
top with it. Appreciative of that, but I always get

971
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:05.159
nitpicky with that kind of thing. You're going to run

972
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:07.280
out of bullets eventually, and that's going to be a problem,

973
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:08.559
but they just keep shooting.

974
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:10.440
Well, that's funny because mine's at the end with the

975
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:15.119
bullets because Karen unloads complete his gun, then runs back

976
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:18.679
into the room, drops it next to Norris, and then

977
00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:21.519
CHUCKI comes back alive. He pulls the gun then out

978
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:23.639
of his holster. I'm like, wait, how many guns is

979
00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:27.679
Officer Nora's carrying and that gun's full and then ends

980
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:28.920
up killing Chucky at the end.

981
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:32.480
The gun stuff in that last sequence gets a little confusing, Yeah,

982
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:34.639
for sure, that's I wrote that down as well.

983
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:37.000
Yeah, because we see her literally empty it, empty it

984
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:39.400
because she's there click click click click, and then drops

985
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:42.239
it next to him. I'm intently watching, and I know

986
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:45.239
they cut away to the other officer to pick up

987
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:47.719
the doll, but he's tending to a wound. I'm sure

988
00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:50.280
he's not putting new bullets in his gun at that point. Yeah,

989
00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:52.280
he's in a lot of pain. So that didn't make

990
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:52.960
any sense to me.

991
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:55.480
Yeah. I was even confused in the middle of the

992
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:59.679
sequence when I was like, wait, when does Karen actually

993
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:01.880
get the detective's gun? When you get when does she

994
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.440
get Michael's gun to shoot the burnt up Chucky in

995
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:07.800
the hallway, you don't actually see or pick it up,

996
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.800
but she does go by the detective in the what

997
00:50:11.079 --> 00:50:14.119
you would call the Shining sequence, which is an homage

998
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:18.239
to the Shining with Chucky's stabbing the bathroom door and

999
00:50:18.280 --> 00:50:20.920
she's screaming on the other side because at that point,

1000
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:25.440
Detective Michael he's been knocked out and she is weaponless.

1001
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:28.039
At that moment. She grabs Andy and runs into the hallway.

1002
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:30.159
I'm like, and then she turned, whips around, turns around.

1003
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:32.719
She has a gun and she starts blowing limbs off

1004
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:34.599
of the burnt up Chucky And I'm like, wait, where,

1005
00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:37.239
what how did you get that gun? But she grabs it.

1006
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:40.599
At some points there's stuff that gets Yeah, that whole

1007
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:44.039
ending doesn't make sense because so he gives her a

1008
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:46.800
gun correct the ankle. He shoots it once right, and

1009
00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:49.360
then it gets jammed right, and then she's stupid enough

1010
00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:52.320
to drop it. Because Chuckie knows his jam he probably

1011
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:53.840
knows how to unjam it too, so he just left

1012
00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:55.519
him a gun, so I'm glad he didn't pick it up.

1013
00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:59.079
And then Norris is knocked out. He comes too. Then

1014
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:02.440
we have Burnt Chuck attacking them, and then burn Chucky

1015
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:04.599
comes into the bedroom where all three of them are

1016
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:07.760
at but only Karen and Andy run out of the room.

1017
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:10.519
You barely see Norris's leg, so you kind of know

1018
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:12.559
he's still in the room. Like Chucky, why don't you

1019
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:14.519
just do a quick stab stab and then move on?

1020
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:17.320
So we don't know how Karen gets the other gun,

1021
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:18.920
and then all of a sudden it's in the hallway

1022
00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:22.760
and she empties it. And then somehow Norris has a

1023
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:25.519
third gun and uses that to shoot Chuck at the end.

1024
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:28.599
Or is it the same gun magically reloaded right? It

1025
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:32.159
doesn't make any sense. Also, the detective he gets knocked

1026
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:35.320
out by Chucky with the baseball bat. Fine, so he's

1027
00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:37.719
out for the scene. But then in the middle of

1028
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:41.400
this whole ending sequence he comes too correct. Right after

1029
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:44.239
they burn Chucky, he comes back to like so he

1030
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:47.360
sits up, but then he's not in the rest of

1031
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:49.159
the scene until the very end. So I was like,

1032
00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:51.800
why isn't he helping out? And I rewatched it and

1033
00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:53.920
I was like, there's one quick shot where it seems

1034
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:56.960
as though he passed out again, because, like you mentioned,

1035
00:51:56.960 --> 00:52:00.000
you see Karen and Andy running around after the burn Chucky,

1036
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:02.920
the you know stuff, and it's like, where's the detective Now?

1037
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:05.960
I thought he woke up. I thought he regained consciousness,

1038
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:08.360
but apparently he passed out again in the middle of

1039
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:10.920
the scene because he's not effective at all until the

1040
00:52:11.039 --> 00:52:13.880
end when he's firing a loaded gun all of a sudden,

1041
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:14.719
very confusing.

1042
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.480
Another one for me, Where the hell are all the

1043
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:20.119
other police? When Detective Norris calls in that he is

1044
00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:22.960
pursuing Charles leed Ray. I mean, he's known as the

1045
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:25.000
Lake Shore Strangler, so he's got to be if you

1046
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:27.199
got a nickname, you're a big deal. And all they

1047
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:31.239
have is one cop car and goes off with the van.

1048
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:35.000
We're in Chicago, We're in a major metropolitan There should

1049
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:37.760
have been police cars showing up at some point in

1050
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:41.000
that scene, even if we just hear him outside twousand percent,

1051
00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:43.920
where is everybody? It's just one on one with the

1052
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:44.960
Lake Shore strangler.

1053
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:48.639
Hell no, Yeah, where's the cavalry? Where's the backup? The

1054
00:52:48.679 --> 00:52:50.840
cops should have been right there on the scene for sure.

1055
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:54.039
Great point that leads then to my next complaint because

1056
00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:58.119
after that scene, we see this giant explosion, good guy's

1057
00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:01.320
dolls flying everywhere. We know that Chucky was taken out

1058
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:03.920
of the box, we know that Charles Lee Ray put

1059
00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:07.400
his bloody hands all over him. And then minutes later

1060
00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:10.679
we see Karen and her friend Maggie go into the

1061
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:14.440
back alley and buy a Chucky doll off of a

1062
00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:17.199
pedlar that found it supposedly at the back, you know,

1063
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:19.599
somewhere around or behind or in the dumpster of the

1064
00:53:19.639 --> 00:53:23.639
toy store. No way, the doll, the box, any of

1065
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:26.519
it would look in pristine shape at all. Right, the

1066
00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:28.719
box is a little ding duck, except but the doll

1067
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:31.760
would have blood all over it from Charles Lee Ray's hands.

1068
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:34.599
There would be ash all over it. There's just no

1069
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:37.679
way in hell that the peddler, a homeless guy or

1070
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:40.320
bump whatever he is, would have found that doll cleaned

1071
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:42.159
it up, made it all look nice, and found a

1072
00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:45.000
box that somehow stayed intact, put it in the box,

1073
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:46.920
made it look nice, and then sold it for thirty

1074
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:50.280
bucks to Karen. No way, no way that that particular

1075
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:53.920
doll that Ray put his spirit into looked that good.

1076
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:57.159
One agree totally. I don't need to add anything else.

1077
00:53:58.239 --> 00:54:02.679
I was thinking the same thing away Aunt Maggie and

1078
00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:05.320
antswering quotes because I don't think it's an actual aunt,

1079
00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:07.880
right right, that's just yeah. She gets a little too angry,

1080
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:10.920
a little too easy for me. Oh yeah, yeah, I

1081
00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:13.800
mean it's Andy's birthday, his mom's got to work, and

1082
00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:16.360
then she tells him to go to bed, and he's

1083
00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:18.880
brushing his teeth, and then we find out Chucky's trying

1084
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:21.039
to watch the news to find out what happened to Eddie.

1085
00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:24.599
She seems a little bit too mad at Andy about that.

1086
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:26.079
She comes down on him hard.

1087
00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:28.119
Yeah. I'm like, come on, it's a six year old.

1088
00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:29.599
If you never try to put a six year old

1089
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:31.360
to bed before in your life, I wish it was

1090
00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:32.639
that easy, please.

1091
00:54:33.400 --> 00:54:35.800
I totally agree. That stood out to me too when

1092
00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:38.239
I was watching him, like, oh, don't don't be so mean,

1093
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:41.800
Just take it easy. You're right, it's a freaking birthday.

1094
00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:43.519
Tell his mom gets home.

1095
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:46.440
I like that you are coming from a parent's perspective

1096
00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:49.079
as well, because here's my next comment. If your six

1097
00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:51.079
year old Bill Bant said to you that his new

1098
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:53.480
doll told him that his name was Charles Lee Ray,

1099
00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:56.320
and then follow that up by saying Maggie was a

1100
00:54:56.360 --> 00:54:59.159
real bitch and got what she deserved, what's the first

1101
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:01.480
thing you would do, sides tell him not to say

1102
00:55:01.519 --> 00:55:05.719
things like that. Wouldn't you be supremely freaked out? Yes,

1103
00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:09.960
And wouldn't you immediately look up the name Charles Lee Ray.

1104
00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:13.119
It's wild to me that Karen doesn't know who Charles

1105
00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:15.840
Lee Ray is until halfway through them even later on.

1106
00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:19.039
It's a complaint of mind. That's true. She should that

1107
00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:24.559
says absolutely, he's the Lake Shore strangler. So if she'd

1108
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:27.880
been watching the news at all, would know who this was.

1109
00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:30.559
Or let's say she's working so much because she's a

1110
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:33.760
single mom understood, maybe she hasn't been paying attention to

1111
00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:36.719
the news. But if your kid says the doll is

1112
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:40.639
inhabited by the specific name this person, and then later on,

1113
00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:43.079
it's just there's no way she wouldn't know who Charles

1114
00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:46.920
Lee Ray because she the detective says that's where Charles

1115
00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:50.079
Lee Ray died. She's like who, And I'm like, wait

1116
00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:51.400
a minute, you don't know who he is?

1117
00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:53.280
Yeah, you know what, that's a good one. I didn't

1118
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:56.000
pick up on that, but it makes total sense. The

1119
00:55:56.039 --> 00:55:58.079
fact that she seems to have the TV on all

1120
00:55:58.119 --> 00:55:59.639
the time too. You would just kind of pick that

1121
00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:01.920
up in passing. It would be leading the news and

1122
00:56:01.960 --> 00:56:03.760
you're a single mom and you got to get back

1123
00:56:03.760 --> 00:56:07.639
and forth to work. Yeah, you'd be scared shitless thinking

1124
00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:10.280
that you could be the next victim. So she would

1125
00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:14.079
do Sure, that is a good one. So Andy takes

1126
00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:17.400
Chucky to school and then they ditch and they go

1127
00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:20.400
in the worst part of the town, which he's a

1128
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:22.719
six year old. He has no idea where he is

1129
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:25.400
in the neighborhood. And I get that. I'm like so

1130
00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:28.000
afraid for him, even though I know nothing's gonna happen

1131
00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:30.440
to him. And then he leaves Chucky to go pee.

1132
00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:33.039
Chucky takes off to take care of Eddie and then

1133
00:56:33.159 --> 00:56:37.280
he hears gunfire and he's six, maybe he doesn't know

1134
00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:39.840
what gunfire sounds like. But the fact that he runs

1135
00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:41.880
towards it thinking it has something to.

1136
00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:42.519
Do with Chucky.

1137
00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:47.559
What and how he did not get hurt during that explosion,

1138
00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:49.239
because I'm sure he was close enough to the house

1139
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:51.440
that he would have felt the shockwave. It would have

1140
00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:54.960
knocked him on his ass for sure. Worst case, maybe

1141
00:56:55.079 --> 00:56:59.440
getting hit with debris. That was hello, I get the doll.

1142
00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:01.800
We'll talk into getting on the subway. I don't know

1143
00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:04.480
how you paid for the subway going into a terrible neighborhood.

1144
00:57:04.519 --> 00:57:05.840
You're a kid, you don't know any better.

1145
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:08.679
I get it. I wrote that down almost forbade him.

1146
00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:09.440
I have it right here.

1147
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:12.119
It says, and when Andy Andy hears the gunshots from

1148
00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:15.480
the house, he goes running toward it, thinking it's Chucky.

1149
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:19.039
That I was like that, I don't know would make Yeah,

1150
00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:21.639
like he's concerned for Chuck, is sure. But from the

1151
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:24.079
beginning of that, I was like, wait a minute, this

1152
00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:26.320
six year old kid just hopped on the l or

1153
00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:30.400
the train by himself with a doll. No one notices,

1154
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:32.840
no one says anything to him. You know what, that

1155
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:37.440
doesn't surprise me. Unfortunately, a little kid that's only six

1156
00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:40.679
by himself on the train, and by the way, I

1157
00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:43.719
believe that it is in a deleted scene where Andy

1158
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:46.559
ends up in a ditch after the explosion. Oh okay,

1159
00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:49.239
there was something shot where because I totally agree that

1160
00:57:49.320 --> 00:57:50.599
I had that as well in the back of my

1161
00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:53.039
mind at least where I was like, wow, that is

1162
00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:54.039
a huge explosion.

1163
00:57:54.119 --> 00:57:56.119
Yeah, because he's pretty close to the house last time

1164
00:57:56.119 --> 00:57:56.960
I was seeing that stop.

1165
00:57:57.079 --> 00:58:00.719
Oh yeah, so yeah. Just there's some strangely written scenes

1166
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:04.519
here in the opening after Maggie dies, she gets killed

1167
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:06.960
and falls out the window. Great stunt, by the way. Yes,

1168
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:11.760
now we have we're introduced to Detective Michael Norris. Even

1169
00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:13.280
we saw him in the opening scene, but here we

1170
00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:17.360
get to we meet him officially. He's investigating the scene,

1171
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:20.639
the crime scene. Karen comes home and she's shocked, and

1172
00:58:20.920 --> 00:58:26.039
supposedly the detective has already questioned the boy questioned Andy,

1173
00:58:26.239 --> 00:58:28.519
and the point of the scene is that they found

1174
00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:33.760
footprints in the baking flower on the countertop. And at

1175
00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:37.400
this point the detective is like, don't worry, I looked

1176
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:39.599
through all of his shoes and none of them matched

1177
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:43.039
the prince. But then because Andy then comes out with

1178
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:45.599
Chucky in his arms, and Andy's saying some stuff and

1179
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:47.599
then says, Chucky wants to know what's going on here,

1180
00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:50.719
and the detective says, oh, let me look at your slippers.

1181
00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:52.480
What are you wearing on your feet? And I'm like,

1182
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:55.079
wouldn't that have been the first thing you looked at

1183
00:58:55.280 --> 00:58:58.440
the actual shoes that Andy was wearing before going through

1184
00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:01.840
the other shoes. And then with in this same dialogue,

1185
00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:05.599
Karen says, Andy already told you he wasn't up on

1186
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:07.880
the countertop, So what else do you want from him?

1187
00:59:08.119 --> 00:59:10.239
How do you know that Andy never said anything that

1188
00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:12.639
he wasn't about that was we weren't privy to that.

1189
00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:15.400
There was no I didn't see that conversation. And it

1190
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:17.519
was weird when she said that. I was like, wait, no,

1191
00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:20.320
he didn't say that, or was that part of the

1192
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:22.800
conversation he had with the detective and we just didn't

1193
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:25.679
see it, and so she's kind of relaying that information now.

1194
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:28.360
It was just odd stuff like that, a character choice

1195
00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:31.519
and weird writing. I was like, something's either been deleted

1196
00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:34.559
or it's backwards. It was wild. I'm trying to I

1197
00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:36.639
just don't want to go too deep with this. There's

1198
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:37.360
a couple other.

1199
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:39.800
Moments here, even the shoe size, I mean Obviously the

1200
00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:42.880
dolls got smaller feet than Andy, so they shouldn't have

1201
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:45.960
right away. That wasn't his not that I would have

1202
00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:48.360
been maybe smart enough. Let me check all the dolls

1203
00:59:48.400 --> 00:59:50.880
in the house and see if any of their footprints match.

1204
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:52.800
But you've ruled it out. Why are you still on

1205
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:54.440
top of that? So I agree with that.

1206
00:59:54.639 --> 00:59:57.239
And then on top of all of that, Karen is

1207
00:59:57.280 --> 00:59:59.639
obviously upset, and she's saying, I want all of you

1208
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:02.559
out of here, clear out, And the detective says, you're right,

1209
01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:05.280
we're out here, and I'm like, no, no, you're not.

1210
01:00:05.519 --> 01:00:08.000
This is a crime scene. You're sending Karen and Andy

1211
01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:10.920
to a hotel to spend the night. You don't just leave.

1212
01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:14.360
That scene's gonna be totally contaminated. What are you talking?

1213
01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:17.039
You can't well, just the fact that she so easily

1214
01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:19.679
even got in, Yeah, good point. They should have stopped

1215
01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:21.880
at the front door and been like, look, it's a

1216
01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:24.519
crime scene and then called Norris over, and then Norris

1217
01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:27.159
brings her in and takes her wreck to Andy. She

1218
01:00:27.280 --> 01:00:29.599
just got by everybody. That made no sense. Yeah, she's

1219
01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:31.159
contaminating the scene even more.

1220
01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:34.320
Yeah, that's a great point. Detective's like, yeah, all right,

1221
01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:36.719
we'll take off. Sorry, sorry to get in your way.

1222
01:00:36.840 --> 01:00:38.800
We'll just leave the table. If somebody was just murdered here,

1223
01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:44.119
diet Yeah, I love that. When after this entire action sequence,

1224
01:00:44.119 --> 01:00:47.719
when Chucky is attacking Detective Michael Norris in his car

1225
01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:49.480
and it's a whole thing because he's driving the whole

1226
01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:52.119
time and he's losing control and Chucky's trying to stab

1227
01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:53.960
him through the seat and all this thing, the car flips,

1228
01:00:53.960 --> 01:00:57.840
et cetera. Well, Karen has gone to Charles Lee Ray's

1229
01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:00.400
home and is seeing all this artwork on the walls

1230
01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:03.920
regarding his voodoo activities. Right, and then we know that

1231
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:08.039
the detective survives the attack by Chucky and goes to

1232
01:01:08.159 --> 01:01:11.639
Charles Lee Ray's home as well to catch up with Karen,

1233
01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:15.719
and he says, oh, hey, Karen, I did find out

1234
01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:18.320
a couple of things. I pulled Charles Lee's Ray's file.

1235
01:01:18.920 --> 01:01:22.840
One he goes by the nickname Chucky. Great okay. Two

1236
01:01:23.559 --> 01:01:27.840
he's associated with his John doctor death Guy. And I'm like, oh, yeah,

1237
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:32.840
how about this detective. Three you just got brutally attacked

1238
01:01:33.239 --> 01:01:36.400
by a killer doll. He doesn't even mention it.

1239
01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:38.519
Nope, what are we doing?

1240
01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:42.400
Like The whole thing is she thinks the doll is alive.

1241
01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:45.639
He doesn't. He doesn't believe her. But now he's been attacked,

1242
01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:47.840
he saw it firsthand. Wouldn't that be one of the

1243
01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:49.519
first things he says out of his mouth when he

1244
01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:51.440
catches up with her at Charles Lee Ray's house and

1245
01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:53.559
be like, oh my god, you are right this whole time.

1246
01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:56.039
Andy was right this whole time. The doll is alive.

1247
01:01:56.360 --> 01:01:58.920
Well, the fact two is he already said he's been

1248
01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:01.119
at the house, so he should already know that. The

1249
01:02:01.159 --> 01:02:04.599
picture and John match like. He almost seems surprised by

1250
01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:07.079
that too. Good point is this the first time you're

1251
01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:08.960
looking at the final What the hell's going on there?

1252
01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:10.960
He should have just went there and said, I believe you.

1253
01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:13.360
I just got attacked by Chucky, right, and this is

1254
01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:15.480
the man we're looking for right now, and then shows

1255
01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:17.719
her the picture and then she looks at the wall.

1256
01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:19.960
I'm like, oh shit, that's the same guy. Not them

1257
01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:23.840
both being like oh wow. But yeah, that whole scene

1258
01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:25.880
went chucky. Part of me liked the fact when the

1259
01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:27.960
car flipped over and he's down there with the gun

1260
01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:29.960
and we're seeing Chuck you run around it, But if

1261
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:31.440
I was Chucky, I would have jumped on the top

1262
01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:33.800
of the car, cut the gas line, set the car

1263
01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:35.760
on fire. See you later done.

1264
01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:38.559
Yeah, for sure.

1265
01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:40.760
I kept saying to myself, like, Norris, why are you

1266
01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:43.039
not getting out of the car unless you're badly hurt?

1267
01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:46.400
A couple of times? Yeah, yeah, there's that. Yeah. And

1268
01:02:46.559 --> 01:02:48.519
it seems like Chucky's got him dead to rights with

1269
01:02:48.559 --> 01:02:50.119
the knife, like he could just stab him in the

1270
01:02:50.119 --> 01:02:52.280
face a couple of times and just didn't. And then

1271
01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:54.039
on top of this is where I have a dialogue

1272
01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:57.880
issue again, because in the sequence when they're still driving

1273
01:02:57.920 --> 01:03:02.000
and attacking, when Chuck's attacking him, Detective Norris manages to

1274
01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:06.039
get the lighter out of the dashboard and burn Chucky

1275
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:09.199
on the face and he screams out in pain. Then

1276
01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:13.320
minutes later, Michael tries to shoot Chucky and Chucky says,

1277
01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:17.840
you can't hurt me. He just did. Yep, he just

1278
01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:20.679
burned you on the face. Why are you saying he

1279
01:03:20.760 --> 01:03:21.480
can't hurt you.

1280
01:03:21.719 --> 01:03:23.559
I gotta say, I love when Chucky gets shot and

1281
01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:24.840
it would just start like flying.

1282
01:03:25.519 --> 01:03:28.519
That's awesome. I wanted to end on a high note here,

1283
01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:31.840
or a positive note, because we got some complaints, obviously numerous,

1284
01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:36.679
but that ridiculous ending sequence. There are so many cool

1285
01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:41.079
effects with Chucky, the way he's walking. There's one great

1286
01:03:41.079 --> 01:03:43.119
shot of him walking down the hallway and he's doing

1287
01:03:43.159 --> 01:03:46.039
this thing with his arm with the knife. It's kind

1288
01:03:46.039 --> 01:03:47.480
of going up and down and it looks like a

1289
01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:51.800
doll but human at the same time. And all the animatronics.

1290
01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:56.440
But you're right. The shots when Chucky gets shot, yes,

1291
01:03:57.039 --> 01:04:01.239
and goes flying backward in slow motion, slamming against the

1292
01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:04.199
wall or whatever, are fantastic. I can't get enough of those.

1293
01:04:04.519 --> 01:04:07.960
I love him anytime he gets shot and like limbs

1294
01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:10.960
are flying in slow motion. He's just getting blown away.

1295
01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:14.079
But you're right in that sequence with the detective in

1296
01:04:14.119 --> 01:04:16.840
the car and he shoots him and he's just like ah,

1297
01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:20.440
he goes flying backwards, all in slow motion. It looks

1298
01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:23.079
so great. Lots of fun. All right, I'm gonna end

1299
01:04:23.119 --> 01:04:23.679
my complaints.

1300
01:04:23.679 --> 01:04:25.360
I think I'll onto two, even though I have some more,

1301
01:04:25.440 --> 01:04:27.599
but we need to move on, all right, Okay, time

1302
01:04:27.639 --> 01:04:31.320
to move on to Hey, what's that actor? So in

1303
01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:33.679
this segment with Spotlight, a character actor you have seen

1304
01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:36.559
in many other films, an actor making their big screen

1305
01:04:36.599 --> 01:04:39.480
debut or an actor that makes an on credited cameo.

1306
01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:42.760
It's hey, it's that actor. Who do we choose this week?

1307
01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:46.159
This week we have chosen as our hay, It's that

1308
01:04:46.239 --> 01:04:52.280
actor Dinah Manoff. She plays Maggie. She's Karen's coworker and bestie,

1309
01:04:52.519 --> 01:04:55.119
also known as Aunt Maggie. Her career dates back to

1310
01:04:55.159 --> 01:04:57.599
the mid seventies, and she does a little TV but

1311
01:04:57.719 --> 01:05:03.400
gets a big break yes Marty Maraschino, in a little

1312
01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:07.760
film called Grease. She does also do fifteen episodes of

1313
01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:11.719
the show Soap in nineteen seventy eight. But here's her

1314
01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:15.320
eighties snapshot. She was in Ordinary People in nineteen eighty

1315
01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:18.199
in the role of Karen, and she received a Tony

1316
01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:20.519
Award in nineteen eighty for he performance in the Broadway

1317
01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:23.440
production of Neil Simons I Ought to be in pictures

1318
01:05:24.039 --> 01:05:27.400
role she reprised in the nineteen eighty two film version,

1319
01:05:27.840 --> 01:05:30.880
starring opposite Walter Mathow. She does a whole bunch of

1320
01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:33.719
TV episodes in TV movies This Child's Playing eighty eight,

1321
01:05:33.719 --> 01:05:37.119
and then she does one hundred and seventy episodes of

1322
01:05:37.159 --> 01:05:41.199
the show Empty Nest from nineteen eighty eight to ninety five,

1323
01:05:41.320 --> 01:05:45.599
playing the role of Carol Weston. After that, she did

1324
01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:47.960
do thirty nine episodes of the TV series State of

1325
01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:50.840
Grace from two thousand and one to two thousand and two,

1326
01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:53.119
and then seems like she hung it up around two

1327
01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:56.119
thousand and eight. Little trivia for you. In the film

1328
01:05:56.239 --> 01:06:00.599
musical Grease, which is from nineteen seventy eight, Dinah managed

1329
01:06:00.760 --> 01:06:04.079
to nab the plucky sex pop role of Marty Maraschino,

1330
01:06:04.199 --> 01:06:07.000
despite the fact she lacked in dancing and singing skills,

1331
01:06:07.199 --> 01:06:10.679
She faked her way through auditions and her personality alone

1332
01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:13.000
got her the part. Later, when it came down to

1333
01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:16.880
doing the choreography, Dinah remained conveniently hidden in the background.

1334
01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:18.159
There you go.

1335
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:21.320
I forgot it was her an Greece and as I

1336
01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:25.239
was like, oh, yeah, totally, but I more remember her

1337
01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:26.599
for Empty Nests.

1338
01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:28.519
There you go. I never watched that show.

1339
01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:31.000
And then when you mentioned you ought to be in pictures,

1340
01:06:31.239 --> 01:06:33.679
I have seen that and I couldn't stand.

1341
01:06:33.519 --> 01:06:37.039
Her in that movie. I got you all right.

1342
01:06:37.079 --> 01:06:39.599
Time to move on to facts and trivia. What facts

1343
01:06:39.639 --> 01:06:42.199
and trivia do we have left for child's play to

1344
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:43.280
share with our audience?

1345
01:06:43.960 --> 01:06:47.719
Yeah? Well, despite their long running collaborative effort to bring

1346
01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:51.480
Chucky to life. Voice actor Brad Doriff and special effects

1347
01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:54.800
wizard Kevin Yaeger never met in person until they were

1348
01:06:54.840 --> 01:06:58.440
both guests at a Horror convention in May of twenty eighteen.

1349
01:06:58.960 --> 01:07:00.400
So you didn't get invited to the wedding.

1350
01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:03.320
Oh yeah, that's tough. That's tough.

1351
01:07:03.719 --> 01:07:07.320
So the original working title for the film was Batteries

1352
01:07:07.360 --> 01:07:10.119
Not Include it. But guess what, Steven Spielberg produced a

1353
01:07:10.119 --> 01:07:12.639
movie of the same name, so that got mixed, and

1354
01:07:12.679 --> 01:07:16.199
then it was changed to Blood Buddy. I guess I

1355
01:07:16.239 --> 01:07:18.960
was a little too close to My Buddy, So now

1356
01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:22.320
they settled for Child's Play, which I actually think is

1357
01:07:22.360 --> 01:07:24.199
probably the best title of the three.

1358
01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:27.280
I agree, and uh speaking, which we're going to connect this,

1359
01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:31.440
but I'd read that the my Buddy doll line never

1360
01:07:31.519 --> 01:07:35.119
recovered from the first Child's Play movie, and I didn't

1361
01:07:35.239 --> 01:07:38.280
do any further research into the My Buddy legacy, like

1362
01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:42.320
how badly did Child's Play affect the My Buddy sales?

1363
01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:46.199
I could see that it would for sure. Yeah, my Buddy, man,

1364
01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:49.199
that was one of the most catchy jingles. I remember

1365
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:51.760
that kid, Ye, yeah, my buddy and the kids were

1366
01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:54.559
playing in the park with them my body and me.

1367
01:07:55.320 --> 01:07:57.639
That's it. That's it. Did I know.

1368
01:07:57.559 --> 01:08:00.079
Anybody with My Buddy? I might have known one at

1369
01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:02.519
the head of My Buddy Dell, and I think right

1370
01:08:02.519 --> 01:08:06.039
away we were like, oh yeah, Chucky, there ket it,

1371
01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:06.599
that's the problem.

1372
01:08:06.679 --> 01:08:08.880
Yep. But you had mentioned one of the earlier titles

1373
01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:11.239
for Child's play was Blood Buddy, because it was going

1374
01:08:11.280 --> 01:08:13.000
to be based on My Buddy kind of a little

1375
01:08:13.159 --> 01:08:16.760
more closely. But the first draft of the script was

1376
01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:19.399
actually completed in the summer of eighty five and referenced

1377
01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:23.640
Chucky as Buddy, who came to life after mixing blood

1378
01:08:23.880 --> 01:08:27.760
with Andy and killed those that were against Andy, for example,

1379
01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:31.760
the babysitter and teacher, and manifesting Andy's loneliness and isolation

1380
01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:34.640
from an overworked mother and absent father. In addition to

1381
01:08:34.680 --> 01:08:38.640
being more psychologically driven horror film, Buddy also only came

1382
01:08:38.680 --> 01:08:42.079
alive at night when Andy was asleep, So that was

1383
01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:45.479
the original version. Yeah, it'd be interesting. Yeah, I kind

1384
01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:47.560
of like it. Blood Buddy, Yeah, me too. Sounds a

1385
01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:48.119
lot darker.

1386
01:08:48.720 --> 01:08:52.319
So the film used various ways to betray Chucky, including

1387
01:08:52.520 --> 01:08:57.239
rc animatronics and little people or child actors Various animatronics

1388
01:08:57.239 --> 01:09:00.199
and cosmetics were used for every scene throughout the movie.

1389
01:09:00.359 --> 01:09:03.960
Chucky's cosmetics transition from looking toy like to more human look.

1390
01:09:04.199 --> 01:09:08.600
The film created multiple Chucky animatronics, such as a flailing

1391
01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:12.439
tantrum Chucky, a walking Chucky, and a stationary Chucky. The

1392
01:09:12.439 --> 01:09:15.399
Amatronk's face was controlled by a remote control through a

1393
01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:19.479
rig that goes on one's face and captures facial movements.

1394
01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:22.840
In the scene where Chucky runs behind Maggie in the hallway,

1395
01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:27.880
Chucky was actually played by Alex Vincent's younger sister great Stuff.

1396
01:09:28.279 --> 01:09:31.159
We had mentioned that there is definitely homage to the

1397
01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:34.800
shining in that final action sequence, and on top of that,

1398
01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:38.279
Brad Dorriff claims that his Chucky voice was just his

1399
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:43.000
Jack Nicholson impression, which makes complete sense, and if you

1400
01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:45.159
know that and you're listening to him, you can really

1401
01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:47.399
hear that you do in a couple of moments. I

1402
01:09:47.439 --> 01:09:51.239
thought this was cool because it is featured in the film. Obviously,

1403
01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:54.239
is the building where Karen and Andy live. That's the

1404
01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:58.960
Chicago Landmark Brewster Building, and the Brewster Building also appears

1405
01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:01.159
in the scene where Gregor y Hines and Billy Crystal

1406
01:10:01.279 --> 01:10:05.319
must surrender their trousers to Jimmy Smith's in Running Scared

1407
01:10:05.640 --> 01:10:07.880
from eighty six, which we covered on this very pod,

1408
01:10:08.239 --> 01:10:10.560
and it can also be seen on the right outside

1409
01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:13.840
Drew Carey's office in the Drew Carrey showing from ninety five.

1410
01:10:14.319 --> 01:10:17.840
So, according to Tom Holland, the shot of Maggie falling

1411
01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:20.439
to her death was achieved by having a stunt woman

1412
01:10:20.640 --> 01:10:24.319
do the main shot, followed by a concrete filled dummy

1413
01:10:24.680 --> 01:10:27.880
when she hits the car, which had charges underneath the

1414
01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:29.399
windows to shatter.

1415
01:10:29.119 --> 01:10:32.239
Them look great. Back to the effects, I don't know

1416
01:10:32.239 --> 01:10:35.000
if you had mentioned this that Ed Gayle was hired

1417
01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:38.880
to play Chucky for the fire scene, and since he

1418
01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:42.640
was around thirty percent taller than the doll, the filmmakers

1419
01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:45.079
created a living room stage that was thirty percent bigger

1420
01:10:45.079 --> 01:10:48.479
and actually set him on fire. But they did use

1421
01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:51.920
forced perspective for a couple of the sets because the

1422
01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:54.439
doll is supposed to be I think two feet tall,

1423
01:10:54.479 --> 01:10:57.960
but then they were using either children or a little

1424
01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:04.000
person to portray Chucky, and obviously they're still taller than

1425
01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:06.399
two feet, right, so they had to make the room

1426
01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:08.960
look bigger to make him look smaller.

1427
01:11:09.039 --> 01:11:12.760
I think I missed that forced perspective. Director Tom Holland

1428
01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:16.359
makes some cameos in this movie, so he is the

1429
01:11:16.479 --> 01:11:20.119
voice of the creepy costume most of the Good Guy's

1430
01:11:20.199 --> 01:11:25.000
program that Andy's watching at the beginning, that's a terrible costume, and.

1431
01:11:24.920 --> 01:11:26.600
Then it is.

1432
01:11:27.079 --> 01:11:28.760
And then if you look at some of the pictures

1433
01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:32.960
in the apartment of Andy's father, that's actually Tom Holland.

1434
01:11:32.960 --> 01:11:36.159
Also, there you go. I just wanted to mention that

1435
01:11:36.520 --> 01:11:41.079
in the reboot of Child's Play in twenty nineteen, that

1436
01:11:41.199 --> 01:11:44.640
the voice of Chucky was performed by none other than

1437
01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:45.840
Mark Hamill.

1438
01:11:46.239 --> 01:11:47.800
That's the only reason why I want to say it,

1439
01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:49.279
just to hear what voice he was going to do

1440
01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:54.239
for that. So, composer John Rinzetti and singer songwriter Simon

1441
01:11:54.319 --> 01:11:58.000
Stokes recorded an ending credits villain's song about Chucky the

1442
01:11:58.079 --> 01:12:01.880
Doll that wasn't used in the final finished film because

1443
01:12:01.920 --> 01:12:06.039
studio executives thought it made Chucky seem less scary. The

1444
01:12:06.119 --> 01:12:08.560
song can be heard in the home video trailer for

1445
01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:11.640
the film, and you can find it on YouTube. And

1446
01:12:12.079 --> 01:12:14.960
I'd let you decide for yourself if they should have

1447
01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:18.840
kept it or not. I think I agree with the execs.

1448
01:12:18.880 --> 01:12:20.159
The tune is catchy.

1449
01:12:20.760 --> 01:12:22.279
Oh yeah, I gotta listen to this.

1450
01:12:22.720 --> 01:12:25.359
They almost sing out the story for you. That's kind

1451
01:12:25.399 --> 01:12:28.199
of what happens. But it does kind of have like

1452
01:12:28.279 --> 01:12:31.520
that toy theme kind of thing going for it too.

1453
01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:33.760
I liked it, but I was like.

1454
01:12:34.279 --> 01:12:35.439
Yeah, I don't know if I would have put it

1455
01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:37.840
in the movie. I'll put the link in the show

1456
01:12:37.880 --> 01:12:40.880
notes so you can find it and listen for yourself.

1457
01:12:40.960 --> 01:12:43.399
But yeah, lick to know. What do you think about it?

1458
01:12:43.640 --> 01:12:45.680
Love it? I gotta check it out, give it a listen.

1459
01:12:46.039 --> 01:12:48.520
I also wished I had this on DVD. It seems

1460
01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:51.239
like there's some good commentary and some behind the scenes stuff.

1461
01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:54.079
And one last thing I'll mention is that during that

1462
01:12:54.119 --> 01:12:57.479
commentary on the DVD, as mentioned that originally Chucky is

1463
01:12:57.960 --> 01:13:01.479
decapitated while approaching Karen and And in this final sequence, but

1464
01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:04.600
not by Karen shooting his head off, but instead by

1465
01:13:04.640 --> 01:13:07.720
Detective Mike quickly entering the frame and knocking his head

1466
01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:10.560
off with the baseball bat. Supposedly, if you slow that

1467
01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:13.279
scene down, you can actually see a bat coming into

1468
01:13:13.319 --> 01:13:15.319
frame and knocking Chucky's head off.

1469
01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:16.960
That's the bummer watching him.

1470
01:13:16.960 --> 01:13:19.800
It streaming right, I couldn't slow it down, and I

1471
01:13:19.840 --> 01:13:21.840
could not, so I watched it a few times. I

1472
01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:24.439
couldn't see the bat in the frame, but same, I

1473
01:13:24.479 --> 01:13:25.079
really wanted to.

1474
01:13:25.920 --> 01:13:29.720
It's like, damn it, I have this on DVD. No

1475
01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:35.279
for sure, all right, Jason. Alternate titles, Yeah, here we go.

1476
01:13:35.640 --> 01:13:36.239
In Italy.

1477
01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:38.479
I'm going to do the Italian verse verse in the

1478
01:13:38.520 --> 01:13:44.680
translation La Bambola Assassinina nice, which is the Killer Doll,

1479
01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:52.399
Latin America Chucky, the Devil Toy, Brazil, Killer Toy, Germany Chucky,

1480
01:13:52.720 --> 01:13:58.239
the Killer Doll, Greece, the Devil's Doll, Netherlands just the doll.

1481
01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:06.359
Poland is Chucky, the Doll, Portugal is Chucky, the Diabolical Doll. Oh, Romania,

1482
01:14:07.039 --> 01:14:13.960
Wait on this one, Toy Spain, we have Devil Doll,

1483
01:14:14.920 --> 01:14:19.880
Sweden the Evil Doll, and Taiwan. They must have been

1484
01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:23.319
watching a different movie, Supernatural Invasion.

1485
01:14:24.159 --> 01:14:25.840
Oh my god. Maybe it kind of works.

1486
01:14:26.439 --> 01:14:28.039
But that's some alternate titles for you.

1487
01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:31.199
Yeah. It's hard to choose my favorite with those because

1488
01:14:31.239 --> 01:14:33.479
some of them are so like I like the abstract

1489
01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:36.239
ones that almost have nothing to do with the subject

1490
01:14:36.319 --> 01:14:40.119
matter of the film. But I think the Diabolical Doll

1491
01:14:40.560 --> 01:14:42.119
is my favorite, hands down.

1492
01:14:42.159 --> 01:14:42.920
It's toy.

1493
01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:48.640
That's great. Okay.

1494
01:14:48.680 --> 01:14:51.479
Moving on to box office, so, Child's Play was released

1495
01:14:51.560 --> 01:14:55.439
on November ninth, nineteen eighty eight and one and seventy

1496
01:14:55.479 --> 01:14:59.000
seven theaters with an estimated budget of just eight million.

1497
01:14:59.199 --> 01:15:01.760
Child's Play turned out to be a box office hit.

1498
01:15:01.960 --> 01:15:05.319
It pulled in thirty three point two million domestically and

1499
01:15:05.439 --> 01:15:09.439
added another eleven million internationally. The film made a strong debut,

1500
01:15:09.520 --> 01:15:12.600
landing at number one in its opening weekend, but by

1501
01:15:12.640 --> 01:15:14.760
the next week it slipped to number two, edged down

1502
01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:18.600
by the Land Before Time. Still, it held strong, staying

1503
01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:21.000
in the top ten for three more weeks. By the

1504
01:15:21.079 --> 01:15:23.800
end of its run, Child's Play ranked as the thirty

1505
01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:26.680
third highest grossing film of the year in the US,

1506
01:15:26.760 --> 01:15:31.159
coming in just behind Mississippi Burning. Second time we've mentioned

1507
01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:33.239
in Mississippi Burning in this episode. I never thought that

1508
01:15:33.239 --> 01:15:36.159
would happen, but we did. Moving on to reviews. From

1509
01:15:36.199 --> 01:15:38.199
growing up in the eighties, we would watch at the

1510
01:15:38.239 --> 01:15:40.680
movies with Gene Cisco and Roger Eber to hear their

1511
01:15:40.680 --> 01:15:44.319
reviews and watch clips of upcoming movies. Their review of

1512
01:15:44.439 --> 01:15:49.000
Child's Play was split. Jeane found the movie silly and

1513
01:15:49.079 --> 01:15:51.399
didn't buy it at all. Roger thought the movie was

1514
01:15:51.439 --> 01:15:55.680
well made, with convincing performances by Catherine Hickson Alex Vincent.

1515
01:15:56.039 --> 01:15:59.199
He thought it was an effective horror film Rotten Tomatoes

1516
01:15:59.199 --> 01:16:02.000
because it made meter score of sixty four percent, with

1517
01:16:02.079 --> 01:16:05.399
a Popcorn Meter score of sixty five percent, and also

1518
01:16:05.479 --> 01:16:09.159
has an IMDb rating of six point seven. So it

1519
01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:13.119
takes this to additional thoughts and questions. Do you have

1520
01:16:13.159 --> 01:16:16.359
any additional thoughts questions about Child's play.

1521
01:16:17.079 --> 01:16:19.479
We know that Charles Lee Ray is a murderer son

1522
01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:21.439
of a bitch, But I was like, why does he

1523
01:16:21.560 --> 01:16:24.880
kill Maggie just because he's a murderer. Yeah. I couldn't

1524
01:16:24.880 --> 01:16:28.279
figure that out. There's lacking some motivation there. I didn't

1525
01:16:28.319 --> 01:16:30.960
know what why why he murder? I was like, why

1526
01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:32.000
would you kill Maggie?

1527
01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:33.279
She wouldn't let him watch TV?

1528
01:16:33.880 --> 01:16:38.119
Yeah, that's like I'm like, or he she prevented him

1529
01:16:38.119 --> 01:16:41.399
from leaving the apartment, distracted, whatever it was, he had

1530
01:16:41.439 --> 01:16:43.479
some sort he was just pissed at her. Yeah, he's like,

1531
01:16:43.720 --> 01:16:46.880
smack around the forehead with a tiny, tiny hammer, yep,

1532
01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:49.079
send her flying through a window. And I don't know

1533
01:16:49.119 --> 01:16:50.840
why this was bothering me the whole time?

1534
01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:54.640
Is how pissed is that Toy Star owner the next

1535
01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:58.239
morning when he comes and just sees Oh, so, who

1536
01:16:58.239 --> 01:17:01.000
do you think covers the cost for that rebuild? Do

1537
01:17:01.039 --> 01:17:04.359
you think it's the owner's insurance? Or does the city

1538
01:17:04.600 --> 01:17:07.960
pitch in because of what happened in the store.

1539
01:17:08.039 --> 01:17:11.159
Because they could claim it was the result of the

1540
01:17:11.199 --> 01:17:15.960
police activity that occurred there, correct? Yeah? Or I don't

1541
01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:19.279
know if they have insurance for lightning strikes? Right, like

1542
01:17:19.359 --> 01:17:25.039
a natural disaster sort of thing. Storm? Yeah? Yeah, what

1543
01:17:25.119 --> 01:17:27.319
a mess? What an absolutely yeah? I mean, what a

1544
01:17:27.399 --> 01:17:31.159
It's a complete disaster. It's a total total.

1545
01:17:32.439 --> 01:17:34.640
Christ is right around the corner too. So, man, the

1546
01:17:34.720 --> 01:17:36.000
guy's double screwed.

1547
01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:39.960
A no kidding, This is a real nitpicky thing. Okay.

1548
01:17:40.119 --> 01:17:42.439
I would actually think this is probably how Bill Bant thinks.

1549
01:17:43.319 --> 01:17:47.640
If Charles Lee Ray has possessed this particular doll and

1550
01:17:47.680 --> 01:17:50.880
the doll has no batteries in it, how is he

1551
01:17:51.079 --> 01:17:56.439
able to perform the actual doll voice? Hmm? It's super

1552
01:17:56.640 --> 01:18:00.359
like overthinking it because you would think, as he's possessed doll,

1553
01:18:00.439 --> 01:18:03.600
he's going to speak as himself Charles Lee Ray. But

1554
01:18:04.199 --> 01:18:06.800
there's no batteries in it, and the doll has a

1555
01:18:06.880 --> 01:18:10.239
very specific voice when it has batteries in it, and

1556
01:18:10.319 --> 01:18:14.000
so now Charles Ray, with no batteries in it, has

1557
01:18:14.039 --> 01:18:16.000
to mimic the doll's voice.

1558
01:18:16.479 --> 01:18:18.840
I'll try to go two ways on this one. One

1559
01:18:19.399 --> 01:18:22.720
Good Guy's Dolls is everywhere just as much as everyone

1560
01:18:22.760 --> 01:18:26.359
knows about the Lake Shore Strangler, so he probably knows

1561
01:18:26.399 --> 01:18:29.920
the voice. Maybe he's heard it as much as people

1562
01:18:29.920 --> 01:18:31.880
have heard about him. I don't know, you know, maybe

1563
01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:36.600
it likes cartoons. Who knows. The second thing is you

1564
01:18:36.640 --> 01:18:42.000
think with the doll itself, there is the audio is

1565
01:18:42.039 --> 01:18:45.640
already and there is, so maybe he just activates the audio.

1566
01:18:46.119 --> 01:18:50.800
That's I think that's the simple answer. Yeah, he manipulates

1567
01:18:50.840 --> 01:18:54.520
the doll, I mean energy, his spiritual forces manipulating dolls,

1568
01:18:54.520 --> 01:18:55.439
so he would be able.

1569
01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:58.720
To activate the voice. I like that question though, that

1570
01:18:58.760 --> 01:18:59.720
could be a bill question.

1571
01:19:01.199 --> 01:19:03.840
It's like one of those questions where Jesus I would

1572
01:19:03.840 --> 01:19:06.319
have never thought of that. Why are you thinking even

1573
01:19:06.399 --> 01:19:08.720
thinking in that direction? Why are you thinking about that?

1574
01:19:09.159 --> 01:19:12.399
I like that. I got a couple more here, but one.

1575
01:19:12.720 --> 01:19:15.319
The screen would be real tough for Chucky as the

1576
01:19:15.399 --> 01:19:19.319
doll he gets around town by himself. A few times

1577
01:19:19.319 --> 01:19:21.439
in this movie, he takes he runs away from Karen,

1578
01:19:21.800 --> 01:19:24.640
goes down the elevator, takes off. How hard would it

1579
01:19:24.680 --> 01:19:27.239
be for Chucky to get around town without being noticed

1580
01:19:27.800 --> 01:19:29.640
just by general public, right, you know what I mean?

1581
01:19:29.640 --> 01:19:33.720
Like he'd have to constantly For instance, near the end,

1582
01:19:34.079 --> 01:19:36.439
when the older couple is in the elevator and he

1583
01:19:36.479 --> 01:19:39.319
plays dead or plays quiet, you know, as the doll

1584
01:19:39.399 --> 01:19:41.319
in the corner of the elevator, and there's the funny

1585
01:19:41.319 --> 01:19:44.119
moment when the woman's like, what an ugly doll or

1586
01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:45.840
something of that fact, and he's like, fuck you.

1587
01:19:46.119 --> 01:19:48.359
Yeah, shot to wife, that's her favorite scene.

1588
01:19:48.960 --> 01:19:54.399
Sure, it's great. But if he's by himself without Andy,

1589
01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:56.760
just walking about town, he's got to travel in the

1590
01:19:56.800 --> 01:20:00.880
cover of night, down dark alleys, and anytime a human

1591
01:20:01.039 --> 01:20:04.079
a person comes across him, he would have to go quiet,

1592
01:20:04.079 --> 01:20:06.039
go limp, and pretend just to be the doll.

1593
01:20:06.119 --> 01:20:09.760
Right, Yeah, a little toy story reaction there. Yeah, that's

1594
01:20:09.760 --> 01:20:13.199
a good question. So he gets out to Eddie's with

1595
01:20:13.279 --> 01:20:16.359
the help of Andy, that's true. There's a couple of

1596
01:20:16.399 --> 01:20:18.000
times he's got to go across town. How the fuck

1597
01:20:18.039 --> 01:20:18.640
does he do that?

1598
01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:21.760
Two times? Specifically once when he runs out of the

1599
01:20:21.760 --> 01:20:24.560
apartment after Karen threatens to throw him in the fire.

1600
01:20:24.760 --> 01:20:27.520
The first time and the second time is when he

1601
01:20:27.640 --> 01:20:31.600
leaves the psychiatric hospital to go back to Andy's apartment

1602
01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:34.520
to get him. Yeah, he's traveling by himself.

1603
01:20:34.800 --> 01:20:36.880
Yeah, because I was thinking when he ran out of

1604
01:20:36.960 --> 01:20:40.279
the apartment, I'm like, I wonder if he's just somewhere

1605
01:20:40.319 --> 01:20:43.960
in the area. And then once Detective Norris pulls up,

1606
01:20:44.039 --> 01:20:45.840
he's somehow knocking the back. I don't know how he's

1607
01:20:45.840 --> 01:20:48.279
stuck into the car, but yeah, there's definitely times he's

1608
01:20:48.319 --> 01:20:51.039
he's got to go a distance. Right, These are the

1609
01:20:51.079 --> 01:20:54.199
things we think about as adults. Unfortunately, it's kind it's

1610
01:20:54.239 --> 01:20:57.399
fun to think about, but sometimes it's annoying. That's a

1611
01:20:57.399 --> 01:20:57.760
good one.

1612
01:20:57.800 --> 01:21:00.920
I like that one. I wonder if that's Please listeners

1613
01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:04.640
tell us if that actually is addressed in the sequels

1614
01:21:04.800 --> 01:21:05.760
or in the TV series.

1615
01:21:05.760 --> 01:21:07.399
I wonder if yeah, I gotta start watching them all

1616
01:21:07.439 --> 01:21:10.319
again now, God damn it. Yeah, right, damn me, chucky,

1617
01:21:10.399 --> 01:21:11.479
I got fine, that's what happens.

1618
01:21:11.760 --> 01:21:16.399
I have one fun last observation here, Okay, question is

1619
01:21:16.520 --> 01:21:19.560
Karen a good mom? Now? Look, I have the utmost

1620
01:21:19.560 --> 01:21:22.439
respect for single mothers, trust me. But you know, in

1621
01:21:22.520 --> 01:21:25.199
this beginning, she knews his birthday. She knew her son

1622
01:21:25.279 --> 01:21:27.079
really wanted a good guy doll, but she didn't have

1623
01:21:27.159 --> 01:21:29.279
enough time to save up for it. And on his

1624
01:21:29.359 --> 01:21:33.600
birthday she gift wraps a large box which looks identical

1625
01:21:33.680 --> 01:21:37.000
to a good Guy's doll box. And when he opens it,

1626
01:21:37.000 --> 01:21:39.000
it's got some clothes in it, and she just pulls

1627
01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:41.159
like a pair of jeans out of this giant box,

1628
01:21:41.159 --> 01:21:43.640
and I'm like, what the why would you put the

1629
01:21:43.720 --> 01:21:46.199
jeans in a giant box like that and wrap it?

1630
01:21:46.600 --> 01:21:49.279
I get parents trying to get be cute every once

1631
01:21:49.319 --> 01:21:51.439
in a while. Even my parents would do this, like Christmas.

1632
01:21:51.560 --> 01:21:54.000
They would wrap a big box and it was like

1633
01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:56.680
a Russian doll situation where you'd unwrap it and there'd

1634
01:21:56.680 --> 01:21:58.079
be a smaller box inside of it and then a

1635
01:21:58.079 --> 01:22:00.520
smaller box inside of that, and you know what. It

1636
01:22:00.520 --> 01:22:01.840
was kind of funny at the time, but it sort

1637
01:22:01.880 --> 01:22:04.359
of pissed me off too. As a kid, if you

1638
01:22:04.399 --> 01:22:06.399
see a big box and you think it's you just

1639
01:22:06.520 --> 01:22:09.199
automatically think it's a big present, that's the big ticket

1640
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:11.640
item that you've been waiting for. And that's that don't

1641
01:22:11.680 --> 01:22:14.079
mess with your kids hopes that way. That's just my

1642
01:22:14.199 --> 01:22:15.000
little commentary.

1643
01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:15.319
There.

1644
01:22:15.479 --> 01:22:17.159
I felt for Andy, There I got. I got a

1645
01:22:17.159 --> 01:22:18.680
little mad at I got a little mad at Karen.

1646
01:22:19.039 --> 01:22:21.520
Yeah, it's like pants.

1647
01:22:21.560 --> 01:22:24.319
Come on, put the pants in a smaller box.

1648
01:22:24.479 --> 01:22:27.560
It's only getting two presents. One's a pair of pants

1649
01:22:28.279 --> 01:22:30.840
and a good guy's tool. Outside of that, I think

1650
01:22:30.880 --> 01:22:32.720
she did a pretty good job for being a single mom.

1651
01:22:32.800 --> 01:22:35.560
No, she was Yeah, she was good. She's good, all right.

1652
01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:38.079
Tied to move on to a rating. So on a

1653
01:22:38.159 --> 01:22:41.720
scale of one to five good guys, dolls, what do

1654
01:22:41.760 --> 01:22:42.640
you give child's play?

1655
01:22:43.159 --> 01:22:49.520
This was tough because after the first rewatch, I was

1656
01:22:49.640 --> 01:22:53.520
a little disappointed because the story really just the or

1657
01:22:53.640 --> 01:22:59.479
lack thereof, or the strange dialogue writing character choices threw

1658
01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:04.439
me off and it took me out of the just simple, fun,

1659
01:23:04.560 --> 01:23:07.800
entertaining aspect of this movie. So originally I was going

1660
01:23:07.840 --> 01:23:09.199
to give it two and a half good Guys, but

1661
01:23:09.279 --> 01:23:13.640
I'm raising it to a three because upon revisiting the

1662
01:23:13.640 --> 01:23:16.880
film for the notes and the favorite scenes, et cetera,

1663
01:23:17.840 --> 01:23:21.840
there's some really great stuff in here that's very inventive

1664
01:23:21.840 --> 01:23:24.880
and creative with the doll, the way it's shot, the effects,

1665
01:23:25.560 --> 01:23:29.680
the effects alone in Brad Doriff's voice of the doll,

1666
01:23:29.880 --> 01:23:33.680
and the fun just the idea just raised it to

1667
01:23:33.720 --> 01:23:35.159
a three for me. So I'm going to give it

1668
01:23:35.199 --> 01:23:38.039
three good guys Dolls for now, reserving the right to

1669
01:23:38.079 --> 01:23:40.600
change it later on, but absolutely love the conceit of

1670
01:23:40.600 --> 01:23:44.000
this film. The idea is really creepy. I mentioned the

1671
01:23:44.079 --> 01:23:47.159
story is super flawed, that whole ending sequence has a

1672
01:23:47.399 --> 01:23:51.560
bunch of problems, but overall it's still fun and it

1673
01:23:51.640 --> 01:23:57.399
goes by quickly, and my suspension of disbelief it was

1674
01:23:57.479 --> 01:23:59.960
there for the most part. It was just unfortunately the

1675
01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:02.439
writing would take me out here and there. But overall

1676
01:24:02.880 --> 01:24:06.960
it's still still worth a three because of the legacy

1677
01:24:07.079 --> 01:24:10.399
it has and you know, spawning so many sequels and

1678
01:24:11.119 --> 01:24:14.319
it's fun eighties horror. What I just I can't overthink

1679
01:24:14.359 --> 01:24:15.960
it too much, and I think I was guilty of that,

1680
01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:18.600
as you could hear in this podcast, but I'm try

1681
01:24:18.640 --> 01:24:20.680
and correct that. I'm giving it three.

1682
01:24:20.840 --> 01:24:23.479
Oh that's funny, Jason, because I initially started with a

1683
01:24:23.600 --> 01:24:25.920
three and then I bumped it up three and a half.

1684
01:24:26.159 --> 01:24:30.479
Oh wow, nice, because I do like the premise exactly.

1685
01:24:30.760 --> 01:24:35.079
I don't think the movie is that scary, and yes,

1686
01:24:35.119 --> 01:24:38.880
there are a lot of things with scenes being cut

1687
01:24:38.920 --> 01:24:42.920
out or dialogue that we've all discussed that are issues.

1688
01:24:43.880 --> 01:24:48.640
But I think because of the three main characters, Chucky,

1689
01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:52.600
Andy and Karen, they do a great job. They carry

1690
01:24:52.640 --> 01:24:55.920
this and the fact that all these special effects were

1691
01:24:55.960 --> 01:25:00.359
done in eighty seven are into eighty eight and percent

1692
01:25:00.359 --> 01:25:02.359
of them still work. For me today, I'm like, wow,

1693
01:25:02.520 --> 01:25:04.359
I would have to recommend this movie who had not

1694
01:25:04.479 --> 01:25:05.920
seen it. I did enjoy it.

1695
01:25:06.199 --> 01:25:09.000
I love it totally great, so much credit to all

1696
01:25:09.039 --> 01:25:13.479
of the effects crew members. Definitely all right.

1697
01:25:13.640 --> 01:25:16.680
That just about does it for this week's episode. As always,

1698
01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:19.000
we appreciate you tuning in. Don't forget to follow us

1699
01:25:19.000 --> 01:25:21.680
on your favorite stream platform, leave a rating, and drop

1700
01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:24.520
us a review, hopefully a positive one. Want to know

1701
01:25:24.600 --> 01:25:27.000
more about the show, of course you do, head over

1702
01:25:27.039 --> 01:25:30.279
to All Bebiesmovies podcast dot com for all the red details.

1703
01:25:30.640 --> 01:25:32.840
We hope you join us next time as we dive

1704
01:25:33.039 --> 01:25:36.800
into another classic from the greatest movie decade ever, the

1705
01:25:36.880 --> 01:25:41.640
nineteen eighties. Till then, stay cool, stay retro. Have an

1706
01:25:41.640 --> 01:25:44.479
excellent day. Everyone, We're friends to the end.

1707
01:25:45.079 --> 01:25:50.840
Remember this is the end, friend, thanks for staying up

1708
01:25:50.880 --> 01:25:51.239
with us.

1709
01:25:51.479 --> 01:26:03.000
Good Night world, m hmmmmmmmmmmm.

1710
01:26:08.840 --> 01:26:11.560
But the real terror takes hold when the deranged doll

1711
01:26:11.640 --> 01:26:14.399
becomes determined to transfer his evil spirit to a lieve

1712
01:26:14.479 --> 01:26:15.560
the ship