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Hello, and welcome to the All Eighties Movies Podcast, the
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podcast where we talk about the blockbusters, love flops, and
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everything between from one of the frenchiest decades from movies,
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the nineteen eighties. I'm your host, Bill Bant and along with me
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on this journey revisiting eighties movies.
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Is my co host Jason Masek. Hello, Jason Bill, I'm
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an excellent driver.
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That's right, listeners, we're discussing with spoilers a'plenty. The
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nineteen eighty eight drama Rain Man was produced by United
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Artists in the Guber Peters Company and distributed by MGMUA Communications.
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The movie stars Dustin Hoffman, Tom Cruise, and Valeria Golino.
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Directed by Barry Levinson, This movie is rated R with
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the time of two hours and thirteen minutes. The movie
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was nominated for eight Oscars, winning four nominees were for
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Best Cinematography, Best Set Direction, Art Direction, Best Film Editing,
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and Best Music Original Score. Wins included Best Writing Screenplay
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Written Directly for the screen for Ron Bass and Barry Morrow,
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Best Director Barry Levinson, Best Actor in the leading role
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Dustin Hoffman, and Best Picture. So what is this movie about?
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What's on the box? If you grew up in the
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nineteen eighties and what's to your local video store to
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rent this movie? You would find this description on the
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back of the VHS box. It is what's on the box,
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Take it away.
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Jason winner of four Academy Awards Best Picture, Best Director,
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Best Actor, and Best Original Screenplay. Barry Levinson's rain Man
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is a modern cinematic classic, boasting quote dazzling tour de
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force performances by Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman. Rex read
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at the Movies. This heartwarming story of the healing power
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of love is quote fascinating, touching, and full of smart surprises.
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Newsweek quote my father has stuck it to me all
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my life, complains Charlie Babbitt Tom Cruise, a callous, self
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centered young hustler who's shocked to discover his lack of
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an inheritance. Left only with his late father's prized rose
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bushes and a vintage forty nine Buick. Charlie soon uncovers
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yet another surprise, an autistic, savant brother Raymond Dustin Hoffmann.
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He never knew he had determined to extort his fair
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share of the family fortune. Charlie abducts his older sibling
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from Walbrook, the institution that has been his home. But
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what begins as an act of selfishness soon evolves into
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a mystical odyssey of camaraderie and self revelation that expands
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the confines of Raymond's narrow world and enables Charlie to
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grow beyond the limits of his hardened heart.
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Rainman, Rainman, I guess I didn't have to read that
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stuff because you were just going to reread it again
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from the back of the box. About the usc wins.
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Well, we just really really wanted to nail it down
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so that the listeners really understand exactly what oscars this
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film one, and in my opinion, deservedly so. But we
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can talk about that all right. So, Jason, do you
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remember the first time you saw Rainman. My memories is
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just not as sharp as yours, Bill Bant, but I
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believe I saw this in the theater with my family
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back in nineteen eighty eight, and ever since that first watch,
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I've enjoyed watching it every time after that. I mean,
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so many scenes are memorable, and outside of the Dustin
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Hoffman performance, I recall what really impacted me as a
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kid was Tom Cruise. I still feel to that to
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this day. I mean that it's his best acting. I
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know I'm giving some stuff away already, but besides that,
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you know, I remember when I saw Rainman. I just
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saw a journey between two brothers, self discovery coming about
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and a great soundtrack that I used to play on
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cassette all the time. I definitely owned this film score.
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And this was near or around my introduction to composer
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Hans zimmer Oh. I am a fan of to this day,
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and I do remember Bill Band. After more awareness was
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brought to autism over the years, I recalled that this
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film caught a little criticism for sensationalizing or over dramatizing it.
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But I always really liked this film as a kid
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and watched it repeatedly. So I hadn't seen it in
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a long time, and I was curious as to how
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it would affect me today. So do you remember exactly
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when you saw it Bill Band?
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I did not see in the theater, but I just remember.
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I mean, it was all over the place when it
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first came out and being a number one movie, and
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everyone was talking about it because I think it was
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around the holidays, and then I led it right into
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the Oscars and then it won the Oscars. I didn't
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catch it until it came out on video cassette and
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rented it. But I think it took me a while
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to watch it because at the time I was not
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a fan of Tom Cruise. But because I had so
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many awards and so many accolades and had been one
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of the biggest movies of the year, I had to.
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Check it out. Sure, well, there you have it. I
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think that's interesting actually to think about that. You. I
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don't know if I ever knew that about you. Have we?
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I mean, we've discussed mister Cruse in other films on
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this podcast. What have we done? Well, we did risky business,
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of course, But I don't know if you had revealed like, yeah, okay.
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The movie that turned me to Tom Cruise, of all
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movies was Days of Thunder. Oh wow, because I always
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felt like he played exactly who this character is in
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this film. That's no character that drove me up the
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wall about him. I always felt like, this is who
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he played.
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You thought that this character in Rainman was the one
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he played the most often. That's who he always just
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seemed like to me. Fascinating. Wow, we have a really
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different take. Then, well, maybe I can. I can see that.
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I can see the cockyness aspect for sure. I mean,
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you think about Pete Mitchell, Maverick, Tom Gun cocky, very
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sure of himself. Yeah, okay, well let's talk about it.
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Let's talk about our impressions. Then, all right, what do
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we think of Rainman? Now? Well, why don't we just
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if you don't mind, let's start with the cast. To me,
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when I think of this movie, I immediately go to
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Hoffman and Cruz, of course. And Hoffman wins Best Actor
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for his portrayal of Raymond Babbitt autistic savant. You know,
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we talked about him and our Family Business episode. This
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was the film he did just before that. And I
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think he's excellent in this. And I know about the
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reaction to his portrayal and his take on this and
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how it was written, et cetera. But I feel like
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I have a little bit of better hold of exactly
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what the spectrum is and what autism is. I think
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he's wonderful in this. I don't think he really has
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any false moments outside of maybe playing up a couple
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of moments for the comedy. He was still Dustin Hoffman, right,
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I mean, it's Marathon Man, all the President's Men, Kramer
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versus Kramer TOUTSI up to this point, and I recall
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always just revering him as one of the best actors
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of our generation, and so this was another example of
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that to me. Did you have any particular take on
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his performance watching this as an adult now today.
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I think he's great in this, And I know there's
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been backlash over the years, but watching him in this,
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anytime he's on screen, and just that look that he
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gives where he just almost looks like he's looking through
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the TV, looking through your living room, or looking through
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the theater every time, every time, He's so consistent on
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everything he does in this movie. I even looked up
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to see who he was against in the Oscar Race.
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I did the same. I wrote down the list. Yeah,
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oh did you? Of course I forgot how it was.
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the Oscar they started calling Oscar bating, he deserved it.
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He really did. Yeah, I totally agree, and I think
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some of that backlash has died down now that there's
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been a lot more research on exactly what And let's
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make it clear just right off the bat, here is
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an autistic savant, which is a rarity, correct, So that
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is a different type of autism and it's a different
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It takes it to a different level and has different
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aspects attached to it. So you know we're talking about
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the oscars. I mean, he was up against some heavy
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hitters Hackman for Mississippi Burning, he got Tom Hanks for
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Big Max Fonsida or Pel the Conqueror, Edward James almost
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for Stand and deliver some really really solid performances in
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great films, but I think he kills it in this
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no false moments and when you talk about his reactions
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like he's seeing he's just staring through television's walls people,
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and the head movements, the physicality, the way he walks,
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the way he carries himself for slouches, or the moments
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when he throws tantrums and things like that. It's scary,
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it's unpredictable. Sometimes it's very sad, and sometimes it's very funny,
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and he just nails all the levels. So yeah, I
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think he deserved the Oscar without question. Every time I
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watch this, I do have a new appreciation for him,
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and I'm more curious to look at his filmography and
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look at the holes and my watching of his films
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like going, I need to see that. I really should
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watch this just for to remind myself how great he is,
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because I just don't see him as much anymore on
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the big screen. Yeah. I agree, he's a great actor
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and so many great performances. This is certainly right up there.
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And what just makes the character great, It's just so humanized.
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You never laugh at the character, You never make fun
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of the character. You just along with this character on
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this journey with his brother, hoping his brother gets his
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act together and understands the significance of all this. Yeah,
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one thousand percent. The movie is about the brother. That's
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why I wanted to start with the actors and just
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start with the two brothers here, and let's talk about
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the Tom Cruise piece of this. He of course, portrays
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Charlie Babbitt this wheeler dealer. It was interesting because I
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was trying to recall exactly what his occupation was in
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this film, and then I watched it and I'm like, wait,
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what is exactly that he does. He's buying imported luxury
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sports cars and then he's reselling them, and he gets
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into a little financial trouble We don't need to discuss
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all the details of it, but I figured it out.
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And obviously then finds out that his father's passed away
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and he doesn't get the inheritance. So this sends him
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on this whole journey to the discovery he has a brother,
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and then goes on the further journey with his brother
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Raymond Babbitt. And I'm gonna stick to my guns on this.
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This is still my favorite performance by Tom Cruise. He's
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coming off Cocktail after this right into Born on the
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fourth of July. Cruz is a very unlikable character in this.
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I was just trying to come up with all the descriptors.
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He's rude, dismissive, he's very short with everybody. He's a
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narcissistic jerk. He's a shady businessman. He's abusive physically and emotionally.
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I do not like him at all in this. Which
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makes me feel as a big fan of him is
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from the beginning that he's doing a hell of a
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job in this role, because this was not how I
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perceived him previous to this film at all. I thought
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this was against his type and he was the anti hero,
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you know, like he's just not likable at all, and
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it's how is he going to transform throughout? And I
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enjoy watching his journey through this, and I have some
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thoughts about that specifically for sure, but I felt like
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this was a maturation for him as an actor, like
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a real stepping stone. He had some real It seemed
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as though he took it very seriously, and he had
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some character quirks and ticks, like when he's clapping when
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he's frustrated and he's trying to keep things going all
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the time, keeping the pace up and trying to keep
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be on the move and make deals all the time.
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I think he looks fantastic in this, maybe the best
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he's ever looked. Still quite young obviously at this time.
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But yeah, maybe I'm biased because I'm a fan as
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a movie star and an actor, But that was my take,
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so I think enough. Obviously, what's in interesting about watching
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this as an adult because you first think of Hoffman
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when you think of Rainman, He's the face of it.
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But now watching it, you're going, wait, a minute, whose
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movie is it? Is this Hoffman's or is this Cruises?
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Tom Cruise's movie, meaning it's really about him. It's about
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what he's going. Don't get me wrong, it's about both
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of the brothers. But you're watching Tom Cruise go through
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the emotional journey, so they didn't know. So I'm very curious. Now,
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what's your take on his performance.
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I don't have an issue with the performance. I think
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it's the way that it was written. I mean, he's
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an asshole in this there's no denying it whatsoever, and
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drove me up the wall of that he was an
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asshole and some of the circumstances. I understood why he
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was so upset and why he was so mad, but
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I kept saying to myself, you just discovered you had
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a brother and you're treating him like shit, and it
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was driving me crazy. And then his brother would show
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glimmers of something and he'd be intrigued and then treating
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like shit again. Yeah, I'm like, come on, man, try
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no patience with him whatsoever. So that stuff was driving
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me nuts, and all of a sudden everything kind of
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dawned on him. So I just think the road was
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very rocky for him to get to where he was.
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because he is the one that goes through a journey
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from being a self centered asshole to a loving brother
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who really does care for Raymond in the end, but
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he in a way puts Raymond through hell in the process,
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and I did not like that. And there was a
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couple of times I felt like I wanted to kill him. Oh,
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without question, couldn't agree more. I wrote this down, Bill
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ban so you'll see I'm in total agreement with you.
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I wrote this down an hour and nine minutes in.
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And we learn so much about Raymond's excentricity and all
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of his quirks, dealing with the autism and being a savant.
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struggles adapting to all of Ray's needs. But Charlie just
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doesn't show much growth in the way of empathy or
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connection with Raymond. And for whatever reason, I still find
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myself very engaged as to where the story will lead.
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But you are absolutely right. You don't really see Cruz
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make that turn until the end when he starts to
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when he really starts feeling something and becomes an actual
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empathetic human being. He's just this narcissistic prick throughout that
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is completely self centered and selfish, only worried about his
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own needs.
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He has a singular goal of making the money in
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order to pay back the creditors, the buyers that he
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owes money to. So it's fascinating that, Yeah, there's these
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little moments of discovery where he's learning things about his brother,
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and those are fascinating, but then he goes right back
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to being a prick until the end, and that's when
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he finally finds love with him himself, that he's actually
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capable of love. And I think that's interesting because we
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do know specifically what you know. We do know why
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he is the way he is because he lost his
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mother when he was two years old, and then he
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left the family. He left his dad when he was sixteen,
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and his dad was a very cold man towards him
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and they hadn't spoken to so he had no relationship
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to his parents and obviously developed a very cold heart
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as a result, and stayed that way for a long time.
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any warmth at all. So that made sense to me,
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jerk for three quarters of the movie.
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When he tells Susannah the story of why he left
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and the story about the car.
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I was like with Susannah, Okay, you stole the car.
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Why did you think he deserved the car? No, because
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you've got decent grades. Yeah, even if you got straight
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a's doesn't mean you get to drive the car unless
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your dad told you if you guts straight a's, i'll
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did you drive the car? If that was part of
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the story and he said I got straight a's in
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the b plus, my dad wouldn't let me drive the car, Okay,
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I mean still what you did was wrong, It's true. Yeah,
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but the whole reason why you separated it from your
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dad was over a car that wasn't yours and you
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felt entitled to drive it. That's not working for me, right,
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that's a great dad stories.
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Yeah. If there was more evidence to the fact that
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his dad was like this cruel man that was intimidating
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or overbearing and a perfection demanded perfectionism at all turns,
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and was brutal in different ways, but it sounds like
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he was just more of a disciplinarian that Bruce says
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as much. He says, you know, it was anything I
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did was never it was never good enough. For him,
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his dad reported it stolen and he ended up in jail,
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and his dad left him in jail for two days.
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So that was supposed to be this whole dramatic thing.
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But you're right, it's not quite enough evidence. You would
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think for him to either run away or leave permanently
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and never talk to his dad ever again. Right, So
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I can understand that probably could have used a little
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bit more.
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I just think I want it more of a like
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a gradual understanding of Raymond instead of of this seems interesting, Raymond,
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drive me crazy, this seems interesting. He would just get
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violent with Raymond or yell at Raymond instead of being
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mad at the whole situation. There's a situation I know
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you'll talk about later when he gets out of the
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car and he's just mad. He's just mad. I get
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that you're frustrated. Your business might be going bankrupt and
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you're stuck driving across country. The situation is terrible. Be
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mad at the situation. Don't be mad at your brother.
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Don't take it out of your brother, who you just
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met that you didn't just me, but who you've just reconnected.
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With after twenty some years, correct, right, that's the stuff
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that was driving me nuts.
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Yeah, he's very abusive towards Raymond. Yes, and he's brought
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all this up on himself. He doesn't have any patients whatsoever,
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and doesn't seem to really develop any patients except for
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in some small moments and then when they finally get
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to Vegas towards the end, so great points. You're actually
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kind of making me see this a little bit more clearly,
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because that was in the back of my mind upon
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this rewatch, where it was like, hmm, is this a
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little bit one note one or two notes but the
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same notes for about an hour and a half or
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so of a two hour and thirteen minute movie. But
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the thing is, I still just going to admit, and
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maybe it's my bias or my nostalgic attachment to it
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or whatever it might be, that I still find it engaging.
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It didn't bother me to the point where I was
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frustrated with the movie.
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It's really not until Raymond gets him the money that
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he's able to relax and see the situation and then realize, oh,
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I have a brother, right, And up to that point.
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He's just an asshole. It's all I can say. Yeah,
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he's an ass driving his own problems. Yeah, you know
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what I was thinking. I was trying to come up
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with a little more insight into this movie before we
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got on to record, and I was thinking about and
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not just spoiler alert. I'm you know, the Vegas sequence.
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I've always loved, and I was thinking even during that part.
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I'm always entertained, but I always love watching it. It's
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fun to watch, but it really is still so self
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serving for Charlie. Yeah, the only reason he's doing it
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is to literally manipulating and using his brother to get
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the money in order to pay back the people he
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needs to pay back. I mean, that's it. He's not
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doing these things for Raymond, getting dressed up and teach
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you just out of love. I mean, I think we
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starts to sense it, but I mean the impetus behind
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it is all self serving for Charlie.
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Yeah, he doesn't relax and see Raymond as a person
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until he knows his debts are paid off and he's
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gonna be okay.
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Yeah, yep, let's if you don't mind, let's move on.
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I just we got to talk about Valeria Galino for
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a moment. Man I just wanted to bring it up
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because I had a huge crush on it. Let's just
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say that as the kid, the eyes, the curly hair,
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the accent Italian, I mean, my goodness, she is adorable.
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She's beautiful. She plays the role of Susannah, Charlie's employee
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slash secretary I guess at this sales company enterprise that
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he's running. And in eighty eight she was in Big
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Top Peewee. Then this then pops up in the Hot
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Shots movies and a few other notables like Leaving Las Vegas,
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Four Rooms, Escape from La Just recently, she popped up
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in the Morning Show for eight episodes in twenty twenty one.
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She's done a lot of Italian cinema over the years.
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But Bill Bann, should she have been a bigger deal?
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I'm gonna go with no.
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It was just we didn't. Just kind of a small
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sample size maybe, and that was fine. I don't know.
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I think she had a good run. I did love
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listening to her argue with Charlie all the time. Yeah,
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she just has a great voice for arguing. I did
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enjoy her in it, though. All right, simple enough, Well,
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I'll just jump to one of my complaints then, But
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because this kind of ties in, I think to what
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was saying we're going is she's gorgeous. She is communicative
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and sensitive and emotionally available and all these she seems
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to have all these wonderful qualities. My question is, why
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the hell is she with Charlie Babbitt.
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That is a good question. She's the one that understands
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the whole situation, it seems like, and she just can't
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get it through Charlie's thick skull. And I mean that's
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why she leaves them for a start of the movie.
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Makes sense for sure.
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Yeah, he's singular minded and she has the full perspective
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on what's happening.
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I felt like she was me in a way, just
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constantly yelling and Charlie like, you got a brother, come
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on right, Yeah, not being an asshole to him.
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Kidnapping him and holding him ransom and hostage is not
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the way to go. No, that's a straight up kidnapping. Yeah,
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for sure, doctor was pretty calm about not sending the
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police after ran. Well, that's the thing is, I had
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a big question about that. I understand that it is
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explained halfway through the movie that Raymond Babbitt is at
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Walbrook voluntarily, but still there's formalities like if you're taking
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him out of the facility, you'd have to sign you
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have signed something, some paperwork. You can't just literally walk
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out with him and then not come back. I would
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just surprise. There's no law enforcement involved at all. Nobody's
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coming calling the cops or anything. It just seems a
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little odd to me.
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How can he be there voluntarily if he can't make
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decisions like who would volunteering question two?
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Right?
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Yeah, Like he couldn't go to the doctor and say
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all right, I'm done, I went out. I want my
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own place. He can't do that.
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Yeah, yeah, I was a little confused as to some
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of those logistics in the legality of all that. For sure.
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I wanted to give a quick shout out to the
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DP director of photography, John Seal, shooting this film. I
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think this movie looks great. But it's interesting because I
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guess I wasn't paying attention before because I gave him
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a shout out on our the Hitcher pod what And
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I don't know if I mentioned it on that pod,
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but you know, he was the cinematographer for Witness the
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Hitcher Dead Poet Society the Firm, The English Patient, one
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of the Harry Potter movies, Mad Max, Fury Road Only
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to name a few. John Seal is a stud I
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don't know why I wasn't studying his filmography when we
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did The Hitcher, and I was just like, this guy
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knows how to shoot a movie. But here we have
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another road trip movie that looks gorgeous and just makes
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me want to move back to the Midwest immediately because
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he makes the countryside look so peaceful and serene and
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I just want to go on a road trip. I
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love the way he shot this. Definitely knows how to
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shoot those country landscapes, so giving him a shout out again.
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Definitely knows how to shoot them. Definitely knows how to shit.
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Yeah. And the iconic shots from this movie are so memorable,
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with Raymond and Charlie walking down that drive in the
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middle of the trees at the Wallbrook facility. It's on
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the poster, it's on the VHS bock. It's a wonderful shot.
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Any of those shots of the brothers.
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In the opening when the Ferraris are coming in and
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they reflector oh yeah, and the Ico iico is playing,
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It was like, oh, yep, that was a Mendela effect
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I thought, for I Go played during the Vegas scene,
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not the opening.
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Oh there you go. Well that's great because it's a
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perfect segue into the next thing I want to talk about,
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and that's Hans Zimmer with the soundtrack and the lyrical
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music as well, including Icoiico, But let's just talk about that.
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Icoico also featured during the opening credit sub mission Impossible
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to the John wu film when you have Cruise doing
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the rock climbing at the very opening the cold open
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another Cruise movie, same song. But yeah, this is when
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I start to learn about Hans Zimmer, when I really
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get turned on to him. It's a really interesting soundtrack.
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I love it. It feels like it little has like
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a little bit of an Asian influence, and you can
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really hear some commonality with this score in the Black
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Rain score that comes shortly after this, which I'm also
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a big fan of. But I guess director Barry Levinson
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specifically instructed Zimmer to avoid strings in his score, as
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he felt it would make the film too sentimental. Stepping
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on some trivia already, But dude, I used to listen
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this all the time. I cassette Koiico. My one of
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my favorite tracks is dry Bones. Man. I love that song.
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That's a fun one in all the Bones. So yeah,
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I really enjoyed the score and the soundtrack for this. Yeah.
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I think I was kind of surprised to see his
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name in the credit because I didn't really remember the
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music that much. So I'm really sure I paid attention
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to it, because yeah, all I remember it was like Oiko,
486
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but not in the right spot of course. And yeah,
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I really did enjoy it. I liked it a lot.
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Cool cool, Yeah, I was just going to talk about
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the I actually thought the writing was outside of these
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complaints we may have revealed already, I did like the
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fact these characters are so specific. I enjoyed There's so
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many great lines, some quotable. I mean, it's a quotable film. Clearly.
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There's something I caught in the beginning of the film.
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I don't know if you caught this as well, but
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Charlie in the beginning when he was with the lawyer
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and they read the will and trust, and he clearly
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is not getting the three million dollars or the money
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that he feels he deserves and that it's being given
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to a beneficiary. Instead, he learns he's just getting the
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buick and he's getting the rose bushes, and he's being
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very sarcastic and talking to the lawyer and saying, well,
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I definitely got the rose bushes. I definitely got the
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rose bushes, which is exactly how Raymond speaks later on,
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said I'm definitely not wearing any underwear, you know, Like,
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so I hadn't caught that before. I thought that was smart.
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I didn't catch it on the first viewing. I think
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I caught it on the second or third. I literally
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replayed this movie almost all day one day, okay, cool,
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just trying to catch bits and pieces here and there
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throughout the day. I would kind of be doing work
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around the house and then I would walk in the51200:26:44.920 --> 00:26:47.359
living room and catch a scene and really break it down.51300:26:47.400 --> 00:26:49.960
And it was one of those times, Yeah, the lawyer's51400:26:50.039 --> 00:26:53.880
reading the letter and I chuckled. I'm like, oh, yeah, definitely, yeah,51500:26:53.920 --> 00:26:56.799
definitely definitely doing that. Definitely definitely doing that.51600:26:57.480 --> 00:27:00.160
Yep. I thought that was great. So I did have51700:27:00.160 --> 00:27:03.039
an appreciation for the writing. Obviously it did win the Oscar.51800:27:03.480 --> 00:27:06.440
But I'm just going to say, kind of in wrapping51900:27:06.559 --> 00:27:09.519
up my impressions here. As an adult watching this, I52000:27:09.559 --> 00:27:12.240
still love going on the journey with the characters. I52100:27:12.319 --> 00:27:15.039
did find Cruz's portrayal of Charlie Babbitt to be even52200:27:15.079 --> 00:27:19.240
more jarring but more believable. Feels like that he was52300:27:19.279 --> 00:27:22.000
living it, and it definitely feels like it's his movie.52400:27:22.000 --> 00:27:25.240
His arc hits all the dramatic levels, and I feel52500:27:25.319 --> 00:27:29.000
well directed by Levinson. This is our third film by him.52600:27:29.119 --> 00:27:32.240
Bill Bant, we did Diner and we did Good Morning Vietnam.52700:27:32.680 --> 00:27:35.319
Obviously an important director. He's a little hit or missed52800:27:35.359 --> 00:27:37.440
for me once he gets into the two thousands. But52900:27:38.079 --> 00:27:40.000
I didn't know if you had any opinion on the direction.53000:27:40.279 --> 00:27:43.079
Parry Levin said at one time, if I just saw53100:27:43.079 --> 00:27:45.039
his name as a part of the movie, I gotta53200:27:45.119 --> 00:27:48.759
see this. Yeah, I just saw it. Everything he touched53300:27:49.119 --> 00:27:51.799
was gold. Even though I didn't give Good Morning Vietnam53400:27:52.079 --> 00:27:56.599
the greatest reviews when we discussed it, but everything else53500:27:56.640 --> 00:27:59.960
from the eighties, I really enjoyed his work. But yeah,53600:28:00.079 --> 00:28:02.279
he fell off a cliff. That was tough. He's one53700:28:02.279 --> 00:28:04.519
of those directors all of a sudden, just nothing was53800:28:04.559 --> 00:28:07.079
working for him. Yeah, and I'm one of those few53900:28:07.079 --> 00:28:09.279
and I'd love to bring it up anytime I can. Toys.54000:28:09.359 --> 00:28:11.720
I love toys, I really do. Okay, it's not a54100:28:11.720 --> 00:28:16.039
good that third act sucks, but it's one of those movies.54200:28:16.119 --> 00:28:18.519
The music and the visuals just really work for me,54300:28:18.880 --> 00:28:20.519
and I.54400:28:20.200 --> 00:28:20.799
Just enjoy it.54500:28:20.720 --> 00:28:23.440
And it's just so weird. It's just such a weird movie,54600:28:23.480 --> 00:28:25.640
and he took a chance with it and I really54700:28:25.680 --> 00:28:30.000
appreciated that, and it's just so something out of his wheelhouse.54800:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.200
But yeah, I mean, this one, in a sense is54900:28:33.559 --> 00:28:35.880
pretty straightforward. You know, it's a road trip. You're getting55000:28:35.880 --> 00:28:38.400
from point A to point B. I mean for the characters,55100:28:38.440 --> 00:28:41.920
for the journey and everything. But you're engaged, and that's55200:28:42.400 --> 00:28:44.319
what you want. You want to be engaged in the audience,55300:28:44.319 --> 00:28:46.359
and this is what that movie does. It engages you55400:28:46.400 --> 00:28:48.440
and you want to see what happens at the end55500:28:48.640 --> 00:28:50.799
because you don't really know where it's going to go, right, Like,55600:28:50.839 --> 00:28:52.599
we know they're trying to get the Los Angeles, But55700:28:53.079 --> 00:28:56.880
how is Cruz going to solve these problems? Does he55800:28:57.000 --> 00:28:59.720
really think he's going to be able to use his55900:28:59.759 --> 00:29:03.480
brother there is pawn to get money and what's his56000:29:03.519 --> 00:29:06.079
brother going through in this whole trip? Here he is56100:29:06.160 --> 00:29:10.200
every day doing something that's different from the last. What56200:29:10.279 --> 00:29:13.359
he's saying he was a Wilbruck from fifteen twenty years56300:29:13.400 --> 00:29:16.720
Oh right, yeah, yeah, at least yep having to change56400:29:16.720 --> 00:29:18.680
his routine and what does that really do to him?56500:29:18.680 --> 00:29:20.559
Does he even realize what's going on?56600:29:20.880 --> 00:29:24.119
Yeah? Very interesting there. I mean, Raymond goes through some56700:29:24.279 --> 00:29:29.720
very traumatic moments. Yes, extremely brutal for him. So I56800:29:29.759 --> 00:29:32.680
don't know what kind of long term effects that would have,56900:29:32.799 --> 00:29:36.599
but he gets put through it by Charlie and you57000:29:36.640 --> 00:29:39.240
were talking about, you know, this being a straightforward road57100:29:39.240 --> 00:29:43.519
trip movie, and Wikipedia calls it a road comedy drama film.57200:29:44.160 --> 00:29:48.400
I recall watching this as younger and laughing out loud57300:29:48.440 --> 00:29:50.839
at so many moments and thinking it was very lighthearted57400:29:50.839 --> 00:29:54.559
in moments and funny, and that the comedy really was substantial,57500:29:55.039 --> 00:29:57.079
not so much watching it as an adult. I was57600:29:57.119 --> 00:29:59.480
going to ask you that do you feel that this57700:29:59.599 --> 00:30:01.559
should be even be called a comedy at all? I57800:30:01.599 --> 00:30:04.119
feel like it's road trip drama. I think it has57900:30:04.759 --> 00:30:08.799
levity in moments, but it just didn't feel as comical.58000:30:09.359 --> 00:30:12.039
I guess because at the time we didn't really know58100:30:12.119 --> 00:30:15.519
that much about autism and what right, we thought so.58200:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.319
I think it was more of the situations how he58300:30:18.359 --> 00:30:21.200
looked at things, and we just found it funny, like, oh,58400:30:21.200 --> 00:30:23.480
that's someone looking at something different. But I think now58500:30:23.599 --> 00:30:25.720
because we know, well, there's still a long way to58600:30:25.759 --> 00:30:28.559
go when it comes to autism and the spectrum.58700:30:28.119 --> 00:30:31.759
And all that. But I think it was more just58800:30:31.880 --> 00:30:35.640
laughing because you were uncomfortable. Absolutely, and I as a kid,58900:30:35.640 --> 00:30:40.440
I was just ignorant, so ignorant, and just everybody was naive.59000:30:40.519 --> 00:30:42.200
And yeah, in a way.59100:30:42.359 --> 00:30:45.960
This movie helped bring autism to the public. Did I59200:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.319
know anybody with autism before I saw this movie?59300:30:48.440 --> 00:30:48.519
No?59400:30:48.720 --> 00:30:51.519
Have I met so many people with autism since. Yes,59500:30:51.599 --> 00:30:53.640
And I'm sure when that's listened to it too, is59600:30:53.839 --> 00:30:57.359
know someone that's autistic. It's something we didn't know. We59700:30:57.359 --> 00:30:59.400
didn't know back then in the eighties. I think we59800:30:59.400 --> 00:31:01.960
could all be the spectrum to a certain extent. Who knows,59900:31:02.079 --> 00:31:05.279
it's possible, still learning, still learning about it. Did you60000:31:05.319 --> 00:31:09.720
have anything else regarding impressions today watching rain Man? No,60100:31:09.880 --> 00:31:11.720
I think that's it. I think we can move into60200:31:12.079 --> 00:31:14.319
favorite scenes or moments, so let's talk about that. What60300:31:14.359 --> 00:31:16.359
are some of our favorite scenes of moments from a60400:31:16.480 --> 00:31:17.880
rain Man take some what he got.60500:31:18.119 --> 00:31:21.240
I think you mentioned Bill Bant. There's a scene in60600:31:21.279 --> 00:31:24.160
particular where Tom Cruise just has to pull the buick60700:31:24.200 --> 00:31:26.400
over and get out and do some yelling, and that's60800:31:26.400 --> 00:31:28.640
one of my first favorite scenes. This is where I60900:31:28.799 --> 00:31:33.559
actually found it funny, his yelling, his exasperation, his frustration61000:31:33.799 --> 00:31:36.720
with Charlie in the entire situation, because he's just had61100:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.240
it up. I mean, he's gone through ivan, he's trying everything,61200:31:39.279 --> 00:31:43.519
and it's nothing's been working. And Charlie clearly has a61300:31:43.559 --> 00:31:46.400
lot of needs, and whether it's the fact that he61400:31:46.440 --> 00:31:49.519
can't fly, or he can't drive on the freeway because61500:31:49.519 --> 00:31:52.039
it's too dangerous and he needs to watch Judge Wepmer61600:31:52.119 --> 00:31:54.920
and People's Court at six pm in Night's Out by eleven,61700:31:54.960 --> 00:31:59.200
all these things, it's just making travel very difficult for Charlie.61800:31:59.480 --> 00:32:02.559
So at this one point we are on the road61900:32:02.599 --> 00:32:04.880
in the middle of the country, and yet this is62000:32:04.920 --> 00:32:08.680
the classic line where you have Raymond just look down62100:32:08.720 --> 00:32:12.400
and say, of course, I'm not wearing any underwear, and62200:32:12.920 --> 00:32:15.880
it's really funny. It's just funny because I hope I62300:32:15.880 --> 00:32:18.319
said that right. Raymond's the one saying that, and Charlie's like,62400:32:18.319 --> 00:32:20.200
what are you talking about? It gave you a fresh62500:32:20.279 --> 00:32:23.160
parent of my own underwear to put on today. It's like, no,62600:32:23.359 --> 00:32:25.519
I can't can't wear those. I need to wear boxer shorts.62700:32:25.559 --> 00:32:28.000
I have my own boxer shorts. They're from Kmart. My62800:32:28.119 --> 00:32:31.480
name is on them. Those are the only of course62900:32:31.680 --> 00:32:35.400
Charlie has does not understand. But it's another one of63000:32:35.440 --> 00:32:38.240
those famous lines from this when Raymond keeps repeating, no,63100:32:38.319 --> 00:32:42.039
I'm definitely not wearing any underwear, and finally Charlie pulls63200:32:42.039 --> 00:32:44.519
the car over. So I love that moment when he63300:32:44.559 --> 00:32:48.799
gets out, because you just have Raymond who wouldn't let63400:32:48.920 --> 00:32:51.759
he can't. He just keeps repeating himself, saying, I have63500:32:51.799 --> 00:32:53.599
to get go to Kmart. We got a cod to63600:32:53.640 --> 00:32:56.240
Kmart's in Cincinnati, and he keeps saying the address over again,63700:32:56.279 --> 00:32:58.720
but of course Charlie keeps saying, we're not there. We'll63800:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.880
get boxer shorts. It's our boxer shorts wherever you buy63900:33:01.920 --> 00:33:05.920
them in Cincinnati or wherever. And my favorite thing is64000:33:05.920 --> 00:33:08.400
you probably know Bill Bant as well. We know this64100:33:08.480 --> 00:33:11.119
is one of our friends, Marwana Jersey. One of his64200:33:11.160 --> 00:33:14.759
favorite things is when Tom Cruise gets upset, he goes64300:33:14.799 --> 00:33:19.000
to a higher register. His voice goes so high. That's64400:33:19.039 --> 00:33:21.960
when you know he's really mad. But when he yells that,64500:33:22.119 --> 00:33:24.880
and his voice just keeps going higher and higher wherever64600:33:24.960 --> 00:33:28.359
you buy them in Cincinnati or wherever, then you just64700:33:28.440 --> 00:33:33.599
hear Raymond go Kmart. It's just I laughed out loud64800:33:33.640 --> 00:33:36.599
at that. So I always i'd love that scene, and64900:33:36.640 --> 00:33:38.720
it made me laugh again watching it today.65000:33:38.799 --> 00:33:41.119
So, yeah, Charlie can't win even if they pull it65100:33:41.160 --> 00:33:45.359
up to another kmart. Oh yeah, something with oh yeah, right,65200:33:45.400 --> 00:33:49.160
that's what he's dealing with. And that scene of frustration65300:33:49.559 --> 00:33:53.079
doesn't bother me as much because he does bring into65400:33:53.119 --> 00:33:55.880
the hole. We shouldn't even be in this car driving.65500:33:56.319 --> 00:33:57.799
You should be on a plane. Yeah, you should be65600:33:57.799 --> 00:33:59.680
get there. It's more, it's more of the situation. It's65700:33:59.680 --> 00:34:02.759
not so much Raymond. But yes, Raymond is frustrating him65800:34:02.759 --> 00:34:05.200
because you can't give him an inch and you can't65900:34:05.200 --> 00:34:07.599
figure out how to get that inch out of him.66000:34:07.799 --> 00:34:09.639
I think he does the right thing by just pulling66100:34:09.679 --> 00:34:12.519
over and just venting. Just vent right, get back in66200:34:12.559 --> 00:34:16.760
the car and move on. Nothing you can do for66300:34:16.880 --> 00:34:17.519
a certain place.66400:34:18.119 --> 00:34:20.880
With that great shot of them the car driving off,66500:34:20.960 --> 00:34:24.000
and from behind you see Charlie just throw his underwear66600:34:24.079 --> 00:34:27.280
up in the air out of the car. Because the66700:34:27.320 --> 00:34:29.079
great thing is Raymond never put on the pair of66800:34:29.159 --> 00:34:30.880
Vender where he had it in his jacket pocket the66900:34:30.920 --> 00:34:35.639
whole time. It's great, I think for us, we say67000:34:35.880 --> 00:34:36.840
the same.67100:34:37.719 --> 00:34:40.960
Next favorite scene and that's when we find out why67200:34:41.000 --> 00:34:44.840
the name of the movie is titled rain Man. Yeah,67300:34:45.079 --> 00:34:48.119
it's probably one of the first times that Charlie has67400:34:48.159 --> 00:34:51.719
the time to actually pay attention to Raymond and try67500:34:51.760 --> 00:34:56.199
to have some kind of bond with him. They're talking,67600:34:56.760 --> 00:34:58.880
I think they're talking. Then it was that Charlie goes67700:34:58.880 --> 00:35:01.840
to put on the tub and Raymond has the freak out.67800:35:02.119 --> 00:35:04.360
Of course, it scares the crap out of Charlie and67900:35:04.480 --> 00:35:07.400
turns the water off. And that's when ray Band says68000:35:07.480 --> 00:35:10.719
rain Man. And that's when Charlie's like, oh, that's what68100:35:10.800 --> 00:35:13.039
I used to say because I couldn't say Raymond. And68200:35:13.079 --> 00:35:14.719
then he asked about the song that I used to68300:35:14.719 --> 00:35:17.079
sing to him, and then that's when Charlie realizes it68400:35:17.159 --> 00:35:20.280
is like, oh, wow, I did not necessarily know my brother,68500:35:20.360 --> 00:35:23.000
but my brother was around at one point and I68600:35:23.199 --> 00:35:26.599
was the reason why he was sent away for the68700:35:26.599 --> 00:35:29.000
wrong reason, because the father thought he was trying to68800:35:29.039 --> 00:35:31.760
burn Charlie as a baby in the hot water, when actually,68900:35:31.800 --> 00:35:34.239
in actuality, he was trying to get Charlie out of69000:35:34.239 --> 00:35:35.519
the tub from getting burned.69100:35:35.840 --> 00:35:38.599
This scene is loaded. It's a great call. This has69200:35:38.679 --> 00:35:41.159
to be, especially after what we were just talking about69300:35:41.159 --> 00:35:45.039
where this movie surprisingly had me feeling a lot more69400:35:45.079 --> 00:35:48.320
tension in me, Like as I was watching it, I69500:35:48.360 --> 00:35:52.320
was getting tense and I found it anxiety inducing because69600:35:53.280 --> 00:35:57.599
Charlie is just so full of frustration, rage, just always69700:35:57.639 --> 00:36:01.039
trying to like he's an angry person. He's an angry,69800:36:01.199 --> 00:36:05.480
angry young man, and Charlie's not going to change and69900:36:05.519 --> 00:36:07.920
they're just going to be button heads the entire time.70000:36:08.000 --> 00:36:11.079
So when this happens in the movie, it's a nice break.70100:36:11.119 --> 00:36:14.000
It's like a breath of fresher because it gets very quiet,70200:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.159
and I noted in the scene it's very silent. There's70300:36:16.199 --> 00:36:19.719
no score in the background, and they're in the bathroom.70400:36:19.760 --> 00:36:21.440
And I love all the moments you named, and I'm70500:36:21.559 --> 00:36:26.119
just going to reiterate them. When you have Raymond with70600:36:26.199 --> 00:36:29.679
his wallet, I believe Charlie finds the photo he sees70700:36:29.719 --> 00:36:33.960
a photo of Raymond with him. I thought the photoshop70800:36:33.960 --> 00:36:36.800
actually looked pretty good in that too, because Raymond is70900:36:36.840 --> 00:36:41.760
significantly older. Then Charlie puts two and two together. He's like, oh,71000:36:41.800 --> 00:36:44.800
you're the rain Man, was it? Because I was misspoke71100:36:44.880 --> 00:36:49.280
and said you're name wrong? And Raymond keeps saying yeah, yeah,71200:36:49.320 --> 00:36:51.880
and he sings the Lullaby, which is actually the song71300:36:51.920 --> 00:36:53.840
I Saw You Standing There, which is a great song.71400:36:54.320 --> 00:36:56.920
And it's just such a bittersweet moment and it's finally71500:36:57.000 --> 00:37:00.760
this connection. But this look of calm and realization that71600:37:00.800 --> 00:37:03.440
comes over Cruz's face in that moment, I absolutely love.71700:37:03.480 --> 00:37:06.000
And yeah, when it turns on that hot water, Wow,71800:37:06.280 --> 00:37:08.800
I'll never forget it. That scene still bothers me today.71900:37:08.800 --> 00:37:10.800
It still jolts me, even though I know it's coming.72000:37:11.159 --> 00:37:14.960
When Hoffman starts screaming hot water, burn baby, hot water72100:37:15.000 --> 00:37:18.159
burn baby, another quote heard from the film. Then when72200:37:18.239 --> 00:37:20.840
he calms down and figures out, oh, that's why you72300:37:20.880 --> 00:37:23.079
were sent away because they thought you were going to72400:37:23.159 --> 00:37:26.400
hurt me. It's very tender. It's a very tender scene.72500:37:26.800 --> 00:37:30.480
And this is where the love story really kind of begins,72600:37:30.559 --> 00:37:34.039
I think for me. And there's a really quiet kind72700:37:34.079 --> 00:37:37.880
of period on the scene where you hear Raymond saying, Hey,72800:37:37.880 --> 00:37:41.199
it won't hurt Charlie. I wouldn't hurt Charlie. Wouldn't hurt Charlie,72900:37:41.239 --> 00:37:44.760
or something to that effect. I would never hurt Yeah,73000:37:44.840 --> 00:37:48.639
Charlie Babbitt, Charliebbitt, I wouldn't hurt Charlie Bbbitt. And Charlie73100:37:48.880 --> 00:37:50.639
is like, what are you saying? And he hears him73200:37:50.639 --> 00:37:54.079
say that, and it's almost it's almost heartbreaking in the73300:37:54.119 --> 00:37:57.880
moment because it's all coming together here. It's an important scene.73400:37:57.920 --> 00:38:01.119
It's necessary at that point in the movie to kind73500:38:01.119 --> 00:38:04.000
of relieve all that tension and stress your feeling going73600:38:04.079 --> 00:38:06.199
on this trip with these two trying to get through73700:38:06.239 --> 00:38:09.440
it all. So it's a wonderful scene. Yeah, well acted73800:38:09.480 --> 00:38:12.079
by both of them. They have a great chemistry. I73900:38:12.119 --> 00:38:15.320
think they work well off of one another. Yeah, I74000:38:15.360 --> 00:38:19.639
agree with that for sure. And lastly, favorite scenes Vegas.74100:38:20.119 --> 00:38:22.679
There's so many things point out with your highlights from74200:38:22.840 --> 00:38:26.559
Vegas that you'd like from Yeah, well, let's just start74300:38:26.599 --> 00:38:29.360
with the montage. Let's get all dressed up and go gambling,74400:38:29.599 --> 00:38:31.639
and when they're getting fitted for the suits and you know,74500:38:31.719 --> 00:38:34.480
the iconic shot is coming, and it's the shot of74600:38:34.639 --> 00:38:38.039
the Babbitt brothers coming down the escalator in their silver suits,74700:38:38.119 --> 00:38:41.320
dressed to the nines, looking sharp as hell. And they74800:38:41.320 --> 00:38:44.079
clean up good and they hit the tables and I74900:38:44.280 --> 00:38:47.840
you know when they start playing blackjack, and what is it?75000:38:47.920 --> 00:38:50.199
One is for good, two is for bad? Is it?75100:38:50.280 --> 00:38:52.760
Do I have it backwards? They have their communication as75200:38:52.800 --> 00:38:55.000
far as counting cards, and they're going to make a75300:38:55.000 --> 00:38:57.480
lot of money doing so. But there's one little moment75400:38:57.519 --> 00:38:59.360
here where they start playing cards and you see obviously75500:38:59.760 --> 00:39:01.920
they're winning and winning and winning, and then the crowd75600:39:02.000 --> 00:39:04.199
gathers around the table and everybody's cheering for them, and75700:39:04.239 --> 00:39:07.239
it's awesome. We always love this, right Bill bandon any75800:39:07.280 --> 00:39:10.559
gambling movie, when they're on a hot streak and they're winning,75900:39:10.599 --> 00:39:13.400
that people gather on the table. It's like if it's76000:39:13.400 --> 00:39:17.639
a craps table, blackchipe, dat doesn't matter. But they wracking76100:39:17.679 --> 00:39:21.639
it up and the dealer at one point says, you're76200:39:21.639 --> 00:39:24.400
doing well, I'm happy for you. And it's such a76300:39:24.559 --> 00:39:27.599
dry delivery. I laugh out loud every time he says that,76400:39:27.639 --> 00:39:31.199
because everybody's so heightened and excited. And then you're doing well.76500:39:31.360 --> 00:39:34.000
I'm happy for you. It's just so quiet. I'm going76600:39:34.000 --> 00:39:36.840
to get fired. Tip me well before you leave, right76700:39:37.199 --> 00:39:40.679
the house is losing its ass right now. Yeah, so76800:39:40.920 --> 00:39:44.480
that's the first first part is of course, including that76900:39:44.519 --> 00:39:46.719
shot of them ConA on the escalator. I love, I77000:39:46.840 --> 00:39:48.239
love that excitement. Yeah.77100:39:48.239 --> 00:39:51.880
I think my two highlights are when Raymond gets up77200:39:51.880 --> 00:39:55.199
from the table for the wheel, and of course Charlie's77300:39:55.280 --> 00:39:57.360
upset because they're in a hot streak. But then when77400:39:57.880 --> 00:40:01.519
Raymond starts saying, yeah, twenty, definitely bet on twenty, and77500:40:01.599 --> 00:40:04.360
Charlie thinks, oh, he can somehow read the wheel too,77600:40:04.800 --> 00:40:07.199
and puts down three thousand dollars and you even think77700:40:07.199 --> 00:40:08.559
as an audience matter of the first time, it's like,77800:40:08.599 --> 00:40:10.519
oh my god, he's gonna hit on the wheel, and77900:40:10.719 --> 00:40:13.199
right the twenty passes and it hits I think one78000:40:13.280 --> 00:40:17.519
or whatever, and he's like, oh, oh, I find that funny.78100:40:17.519 --> 00:40:21.000
But I think at that point you just believe almost78200:40:21.119 --> 00:40:24.880
Raymond has magic powers that he can just beat Vegas.78300:40:25.159 --> 00:40:29.239
And then my second favorite moment from that is Raymond78400:40:29.519 --> 00:40:31.519
having the dance with Susanna and the elevator. I love78500:40:31.559 --> 00:40:35.559
that scene, very tender moment because Susan always just kneels78600:40:35.599 --> 00:40:38.440
for him, and the fact that she gives him that78700:40:38.559 --> 00:40:40.199
dance that he really thought he was going to get78800:40:40.199 --> 00:40:42.719
with the call girl Iris.78900:40:43.079 --> 00:40:47.679
Yeah, Iris, you have to meet Iris ten o'clock. Ten o'clock. Yeah,79000:40:47.880 --> 00:40:50.000
couldn't agree more, my friend. I'm going to take it79100:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.800
a step back and go to the dancing sequence between79200:40:53.000 --> 00:40:55.679
ray and Charlie. It's a beautiful thing. Ray gets the79300:40:55.679 --> 00:40:58.400
big fancy Sweet. Well, Charlie treats him to the big79400:40:58.440 --> 00:41:01.320
fancy sweet, puts the bed by the way, and Raymond79500:41:01.440 --> 00:41:03.239
wants to learn how to dance because he's going to79600:41:03.320 --> 00:41:06.159
have this hot date with the prostitute Iris at ten79700:41:06.599 --> 00:41:10.679
and they put on the classic song at Last Atta James,79800:41:11.199 --> 00:41:15.360
and Charlie teaches Raymond how to dance. It's very simple.79900:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.760
It's a beautiful love scene between brothers which ends in80000:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.599
a very jarring moment because Charlie just wants to give80100:41:22.639 --> 00:41:25.719
him a hug and Raymond is just not used to that.80200:41:25.760 --> 00:41:28.000
It's interesting when you brought up. When they're down at80300:41:28.039 --> 00:41:30.480
the tables and such, and they gambling and they go80400:41:30.559 --> 00:41:33.800
over to the wheel. It starts with, of course Raymond80500:41:33.800 --> 00:41:35.800
being distracted. He sees the wheel. But we as an80600:41:35.840 --> 00:41:38.519
audience know this. We're learning along the way. We know80700:41:38.599 --> 00:41:40.599
he's autistic, and we know he's a savant, and we80800:41:40.719 --> 00:41:42.639
know that there are certain things that are going to80900:41:42.719 --> 00:41:45.239
catch his eye most likely. The frustrating thing is it81000:41:45.239 --> 00:41:48.079
seems like Charlie's not learning at all. So then they81100:41:48.159 --> 00:41:51.079
go over to the wheel and they lose three thousand81200:41:51.159 --> 00:41:54.960
dollars And I hate Charlie so much in this moment81300:41:55.000 --> 00:41:58.159
because he gets really pissed at Raymond for, you know,81400:41:58.239 --> 00:42:01.199
dropping three grand on that wheel, and I'm like, dude,81500:42:01.239 --> 00:42:04.199
he just won you like eighty six thousand dollars. He's81600:42:04.239 --> 00:42:06.000
being really selfish, but it seems as though he just81700:42:06.039 --> 00:42:07.880
hasn't learned anything as to why he even went to81800:42:07.920 --> 00:42:10.239
the wheel in the first place. He should be understanding81900:42:10.280 --> 00:42:14.199
of that anyway. The dance sequence in the elevator between82000:42:14.239 --> 00:42:18.639
Susanne and Raymond is beautiful, and then it ends with82100:42:18.719 --> 00:42:22.559
them allowing Raymond to drive the buick around the fountain82200:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.360
and circles and run drive it up on the curb.82300:42:26.239 --> 00:42:27.800
That was fun. Yeah.82400:42:27.880 --> 00:42:30.679
I have the note though with the hug scene, Charlie82500:42:30.760 --> 00:42:34.559
came in too fast. That was the problems. Yeah, he82600:42:34.599 --> 00:42:36.880
was giving him that bro hug, that tough like he82700:42:36.960 --> 00:42:39.559
just goes in hard. Yeah, I agree, He's just slowed82800:42:39.559 --> 00:42:41.440
down a little bit on that one. It's like, no,82900:42:41.480 --> 00:42:42.840
wonder why I freaked out. I think I would have83000:42:42.880 --> 00:42:44.760
freaked out someone trying to hug me that fast. And83100:42:44.760 --> 00:42:46.800
that's what I'm saying. He doesn't seem to learn, Like83200:42:46.880 --> 00:42:49.840
I was thinking to myself, Oh, well, okay, you went83300:42:49.880 --> 00:42:50.440
in too hard.83400:42:50.480 --> 00:42:54.079
You made a mistake. Raymond freaked out then slowed down,83500:42:54.239 --> 00:42:55.719
be like, hey man, can I give you a hug.83600:42:55.800 --> 00:42:57.360
I'm just going to bring you in softly and give83700:42:57.400 --> 00:42:59.000
you a hug and be tender, and that would have83800:42:59.039 --> 00:43:01.199
been nice. But he just kind of walks away going83900:43:01.880 --> 00:43:06.800
feeling dejected, right of all, like Charlie's feeling dejected, I know.84000:43:07.159 --> 00:43:09.159
Treating like dirt for five days straight.84100:43:09.360 --> 00:43:17.760
No. That entire Vegas portion of the film, though, is great. Yeah,84200:43:18.000 --> 00:43:20.239
all right. Trying to move on to Swiss Cheese and84300:43:20.320 --> 00:43:22.719
complaint department, and why do we call it Swiss cheese?84400:43:23.079 --> 00:43:26.440
Because although this movie is delicious, it does have toothpick.84500:43:26.039 --> 00:43:28.320
Holes, yes, and it doesn't have those toothpick holes. We84600:43:28.519 --> 00:43:31.199
just file complaint with the complaint department. So, Jason, what84700:43:31.199 --> 00:43:33.079
do you have for Swiss cheese or complaints?84800:43:33.400 --> 00:43:36.239
I think we've covered most of mine. We talked about84900:43:36.280 --> 00:43:40.039
the kidnapping. That's pretty tough. You're taking a patient out85000:43:40.079 --> 00:43:43.320
of a mental facility, voluntary or not, there would be85100:43:43.400 --> 00:43:46.920
somebody would be called in. You have to believe Tom85200:43:47.000 --> 00:43:50.960
Cruise smoking in this movie or not smoking. I think85300:43:50.960 --> 00:43:53.559
we see him take one puff, maybe two puffs off85400:43:53.559 --> 00:43:55.719
a cigarette throughout this. I'm not sure why they even85500:43:55.800 --> 00:43:58.360
had him smoking. It's just kind of weird seeing him85600:43:58.360 --> 00:44:01.440
smoke or not smoke. The first scene you see him85700:44:01.440 --> 00:44:03.800
with a lit cigarette hanging in an ashtray. He never85800:44:03.840 --> 00:44:06.519
takes a pop off it. It's literally just smoking in85900:44:06.559 --> 00:44:10.559
his face and Raymond's. So those are just a couple86000:44:10.559 --> 00:44:12.960
of things. What do you have for Swiss cheese and86100:44:13.159 --> 00:44:13.880
or complaints?86200:44:14.280 --> 00:44:16.719
I have two things. The first thing is okay, So86300:44:16.760 --> 00:44:20.079
we find out that Charlie inherits the car and the86400:44:20.159 --> 00:44:23.280
rose bushes and he needs money correct sell the car.86500:44:23.840 --> 00:44:28.800
There's some money for you, obviously. Obviously day I didn't86600:44:28.800 --> 00:44:29.480
even think of it.86700:44:29.519 --> 00:44:32.599
Originally wasn't taking it to Las Vegas because he was86800:44:32.639 --> 00:44:34.280
gonna fly. So what was he gonna do with the86900:44:34.320 --> 00:44:34.800
car anyway.87000:44:35.079 --> 00:44:36.880
I don't think you get anything for the roses, but87100:44:37.480 --> 00:44:39.119
I'm sure you can get something for the car to87200:44:39.199 --> 00:44:40.920
kind of get you over for a little bit.87300:44:40.960 --> 00:44:43.480
I don't know how much that's great, but I never87400:44:43.559 --> 00:44:46.280
even never even crossed my mind. It's a great call.87500:44:46.400 --> 00:44:48.559
The second thing this really weird at me out.87600:44:48.639 --> 00:44:49.480
I don't know why.87700:44:49.679 --> 00:44:53.079
So the scene when they're on the highway and Raymond87800:44:53.119 --> 00:44:55.880
freaks out, so they decide, Okay, you're going to walk87900:44:55.880 --> 00:44:57.679
in front of the car and we're gonna get off88000:44:57.679 --> 00:44:59.079
the ramp and then we'll take.88100:44:58.880 --> 00:44:59.679
The side roads.88200:45:00.039 --> 00:45:02.719
So there's an overhead shot of them coming off the88300:45:02.800 --> 00:45:06.199
off ramp with Raymond in the front, and I swear,88400:45:06.679 --> 00:45:10.360
the way the lines are drawn that car should drive88500:45:10.599 --> 00:45:12.840
head on into oncoming traffic.88600:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.559
Gets me every time. Okay, you saw it too, hilarious.88700:45:15.559 --> 00:45:17.840
It's hilarious that you point that up. It's one of88800:45:17.920 --> 00:45:21.159
those weird nitpicky things that bothers me every time I88900:45:21.199 --> 00:45:24.519
see the movie. The way those street lines are painted89000:45:24.599 --> 00:45:27.719
on there, it's as if it's a merging lane not89100:45:27.880 --> 00:45:32.519
going into its own lane. Did they shoot reverse because89200:45:32.679 --> 00:45:35.159
they're really supposed to be going onto the ramp, and89300:45:35.280 --> 00:45:37.760
just for the film, they just shot it backwards, so89400:45:37.800 --> 00:45:40.559
they're coming off the ramp because the way the line's drawn,89500:45:40.639 --> 00:45:43.039
it's drawn to go into that car that's coming the89600:45:43.079 --> 00:45:46.920
other way. Right. Yeah, it's making me edgy. Okay, I'm89700:45:46.920 --> 00:45:48.760
glad we saw it too. That's amazing. I'm glad we89800:45:48.840 --> 00:45:51.079
both picked up on that. That's funny. Yeah. I get89900:45:51.119 --> 00:45:53.079
anxious every time I see that. I'm like, are they90000:45:53.079 --> 00:45:55.800
going into oncoming traffic? What's happening? I was sick in90100:45:55.840 --> 00:45:56.960
the same thing. I was wondering.90200:45:56.960 --> 00:45:58.519
I was like, did he do that just to get90300:45:58.519 --> 00:45:59.079
off the road?90400:46:00.280 --> 00:46:02.559
Such a weird little thing. Okay, I'm glad we bossed90500:46:02.559 --> 00:46:06.400
all that time. Move on to Hey, it's that actor?90600:46:07.400 --> 00:46:07.840
All right?90700:46:08.079 --> 00:46:10.159
So in this segment we spotlight a character actor you90800:46:10.199 --> 00:46:12.519
have seen in many other films, an actor in making90900:46:12.559 --> 00:46:14.880
their big screen debut, or an actor that makes an91000:46:15.000 --> 00:46:18.239
uncredited cameo. It's Hey, it's that actor. Who do we91100:46:18.320 --> 00:46:19.239
choose this week?91200:46:19.639 --> 00:46:22.039
This week we chose for our Hey, it's that actor91300:46:22.159 --> 00:46:27.880
Beth Grant, who plays mother at Farmhouse. Beth is an91400:46:27.920 --> 00:46:31.800
American character actress from Alabama. Her trademarks are her southern accent.91500:46:31.880 --> 00:46:34.519
She almost always plays someone who is arrogant, conservative, a91600:46:34.559 --> 00:46:38.639
stickler to rules, or even downright evil. Her eighties is91700:46:38.760 --> 00:46:41.559
very brief. She didn't really start working regularly until the91800:46:41.599 --> 00:46:43.920
mid to late eighties. She did some single episodes of TV,91900:46:44.039 --> 00:46:46.440
then rain Man here in eighty eight, and that's all92000:46:46.760 --> 00:46:50.360
she wrote until she starts working more prolifically in the nineties.92100:46:50.480 --> 00:46:53.800
She does flat Liners in nineteen ninety, Child's Play two,92200:46:53.840 --> 00:46:56.679
also in ninety the Dark Half in ninety three, seventeen92300:46:56.719 --> 00:46:59.880
episodes of the show Delta with Delta, Birk City Slickers too,92400:47:00.159 --> 00:47:02.760
the Legend of Curly's Gold in ninety four. Then the92500:47:02.800 --> 00:47:07.239
movie that I recognize her from immediately would be Speed92600:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.800
in nineteen ninety four. She portrays Helen. She's the woman92700:47:10.840 --> 00:47:13.079
that jumps the gun, tries to get off the bus92800:47:13.079 --> 00:47:16.639
too soon, steps down and it explodes and she's dragged92900:47:16.719 --> 00:47:20.519
underneath the bus. And that's brutal. That's an awful scene.93000:47:20.599 --> 00:47:24.159
But every time that comes up in that movie, I'm like, lady, stop, dude,93100:47:24.199 --> 00:47:27.039
what are you doing. Don't get off? Then we know93200:47:27.079 --> 00:47:30.280
what happens. Into the two thousands. Other notables she has93300:47:30.320 --> 00:47:33.719
our Donnie Darko, Pearl Harbor, Rockstar, The Rookie, ten episodes93400:47:33.760 --> 00:47:36.239
of the show Jericho. She's the voice of Bonnie and Rango.93500:47:36.360 --> 00:47:39.239
She does seventy nine episodes of The Mini Project as Beverly.93600:47:39.719 --> 00:47:42.360
She was in Goliath with a Billy Bob, eighteen episodes93700:47:42.400 --> 00:47:45.760
of Dollface A Little Trivia. She's appeared in four films93800:47:45.800 --> 00:47:49.199
that have been nominated for the Best Picture Oscar, We93900:47:49.239 --> 00:47:51.719
Know This rain Man obviously, Little Miss Sunshine in two94000:47:51.719 --> 00:47:54.320
thousand and six, No Country for Old Men in two94100:47:54.320 --> 00:47:57.360
thousand and seven, and The Artist in twenty eleven. With94200:47:57.400 --> 00:47:59.880
the exception of Little Miss Sunshine, all of those films94300:48:00.480 --> 00:48:03.239
in that category. This is kind of fun because she94400:48:03.480 --> 00:48:05.760
can portray her looks a little bit older. She's only94500:48:05.800 --> 00:48:07.920
four and a half years older than Dennis Quaid, who94600:48:07.920 --> 00:48:10.639
plays her son in The Rookie, and then later on94700:48:10.719 --> 00:48:13.239
she's only nine years older than Kevin Bacon playing his94800:48:13.400 --> 00:48:18.320
mother in the twenty twenty five show The Bondsman. Wow. Yeah,94900:48:18.480 --> 00:48:21.159
Beth Grant, she was definitely one of those I know,95000:48:21.239 --> 00:48:23.480
I've seen her in something else and I couldn't think95100:48:23.519 --> 00:48:25.559
of it, and I'm like, all right, Jason Raddley's off95200:48:25.639 --> 00:48:27.719
let's see what it is, and yeah, it was speed95300:48:27.960 --> 00:48:29.880
and let him miss Sunshine. I do remember in that95400:48:29.880 --> 00:48:31.039
one too. There you go.95500:48:31.280 --> 00:48:33.920
Okay, time to move on to facts and trivia. What95600:48:33.960 --> 00:48:37.000
are some facts and trivia we have about Rainman.95700:48:37.159 --> 00:48:40.039
For in flight viewing? Several airlines deleted the sequence in95800:48:40.039 --> 00:48:44.679
which Raymond Babbitts reels off statistics on airline accidents, except Quantis.95900:48:44.880 --> 00:48:48.079
They even promoted one of the movie's writers to first96000:48:48.119 --> 00:48:51.639
class once he traveled on their airline. What Raymond babbitt96100:48:51.639 --> 00:48:54.679
says about Quantus was and still is true from nineteen96200:48:54.679 --> 00:48:57.880
twenty one to twenty twenty five. Quantis has never lost96300:48:58.119 --> 00:49:01.519
any jet airliners, and there is a distinction there by96400:49:01.559 --> 00:49:05.119
the way. The distinction is jet airliners. Quantus did lose96500:49:05.159 --> 00:49:10.639
some propeller planes earlier in their histories, but specifically jet airliners,96600:49:10.679 --> 00:49:11.760
they have never lost any.96700:49:11.920 --> 00:49:14.280
All right, only because you mentioned this character earlier that96800:49:14.800 --> 00:49:17.280
I have this fun fact about him. So the blackjack96900:49:17.320 --> 00:49:21.599
dealer at Caesar's Palace is named Nick Mizzola, and he97000:49:21.800 --> 00:49:25.599
was also the war dealer in the movie Vegas Vacation,97100:49:26.000 --> 00:49:29.079
as well as a dealer in the movie Casino. In97200:49:29.119 --> 00:49:32.119
real life, Nick was a blackjack dealer at Caesar's Palace97300:49:32.360 --> 00:49:33.719
in the seventies and eighties.97400:49:35.280 --> 00:49:38.639
I'm happy for you. Dustin Hoffman spent a lot of97500:49:38.679 --> 00:49:42.840
time with savant Kim Peak, the inspiration for the character97600:49:42.880 --> 00:49:46.880
of Raymond Rainman. Writer Barry Morrow first met Peak in97700:49:47.000 --> 00:49:49.519
nineteen eighty six, and, on winning an Oscar for the97800:49:49.519 --> 00:49:52.280
screenplay for this movie in nineteen eighty nine, gave his97900:49:52.360 --> 00:49:56.880
Oscar trophy to Kim Peak. Hoffman made Kim's father the98000:49:56.960 --> 00:50:00.719
main caregiver, a promise that he would share Kim with98100:50:00.840 --> 00:50:03.679
the world. For nearly twenty years until his death, Kim98200:50:03.760 --> 00:50:06.679
Peek went all over the world, impressing people with his98300:50:06.840 --> 00:50:11.519
incredible memory and ability to recall minute details from centuries98400:50:11.639 --> 00:50:12.360
of history.98500:50:12.840 --> 00:50:16.440
The Amarillo, Texas motel scene was actually filmed at the98600:50:16.440 --> 00:50:20.559
Big Eight Motel in al Reno, Oklahoma. The motel maintained98700:50:20.639 --> 00:50:23.639
the sign used in the film that read Amarillo's Finest98800:50:23.880 --> 00:50:27.360
before the motel closed down. Guests sometimes requested to stay98900:50:27.360 --> 00:50:30.159
in the same room where Raymond and Charlie stayed, Room99000:50:30.199 --> 00:50:33.599
one point seventeen. The motel has since been demolished.99100:50:34.159 --> 00:50:37.719
Hmmm, this is a fun one. I'll bring up last,99200:50:37.760 --> 00:50:40.360
but not least just for the listeners that are familiar99300:50:40.360 --> 00:50:42.960
to this film. When I think they're I don't know99400:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.360
what town they're in, but when they're driving cross country,99500:50:45.719 --> 00:50:48.280
Charlie brings Raymond to a doctor really trying to figure99600:50:48.320 --> 00:50:50.960
out what's going on with his autism. And there's an99700:50:51.039 --> 00:50:53.920
old man that just keeps talking in the waiting room,99800:50:54.199 --> 00:50:58.079
and I have this too. It's so great. The elderly99900:50:58.159 --> 00:51:00.039
man in the waiting room who talks on and on100000:51:00.119 --> 00:51:04.199
about the Pony Express is Byron P. Kavnar, an eighty100100:51:04.280 --> 00:51:06.719
nine year old local who was in the waiting room100200:51:06.760 --> 00:51:09.920
when the crew arrived to film there. He got to100300:51:09.960 --> 00:51:13.000
talking on his favorite subject, the Pony Express, and director100400:51:13.039 --> 00:51:15.480
Barry Levinson got such a kick out of it that100500:51:15.559 --> 00:51:19.079
he let Kavnar keep on talking as the cameras rolled.100600:51:19.360 --> 00:51:24.639
All his dialogue was spontaneous and not scripted. I love that. Yeah.100700:51:24.800 --> 00:51:26.159
It was like I said, I was watching this all100800:51:26.239 --> 00:51:28.199
day long, and I walked in on this and I100900:51:28.400 --> 00:51:30.320
just sat down and just listened to him. I didn't101000:51:30.320 --> 00:51:32.000
pay attention to anything. I'm like, what is this guy101100:51:32.079 --> 00:51:35.440
talking about? Why is he here? What the hell is101200:51:35.480 --> 00:51:36.920
going on? It was cracking me up.101300:51:37.079 --> 00:51:39.719
So I was so happy to find that information because like, oh,101400:51:39.760 --> 00:51:40.679
I feel so much better.101500:51:40.880 --> 00:51:43.599
It's fantastic. If you know it, you know it. He101600:51:43.639 --> 00:51:47.719
doesn't stop talking. He talks over Dustin Hoffman. He just101700:51:47.840 --> 00:51:50.280
keeps telling the story, and I'm engrossed by it. Like101800:51:50.280 --> 00:51:52.360
if I were there, I'd probably just be let him talk.101900:51:52.400 --> 00:51:54.400
And I'm just like he seemed to be in the102000:51:54.440 --> 00:51:56.639
know about the Pony Express. Let's put it that way.102100:51:57.039 --> 00:51:59.639
Last thing, this could have been a handsoen actor, but102200:52:00.480 --> 00:52:04.400
so Bonnie Hunt plays a waitress who dropped the toothpicks102300:52:04.440 --> 00:52:07.880
in two forty six. But I found this nugget funny.102400:52:07.960 --> 00:52:11.360
So she ends up co starring with Tom Cruise a102500:52:11.440 --> 00:52:15.559
decade later, and Jerry maguire and Cruise forgot that they102600:52:15.840 --> 00:52:17.159
had worked on Rainman together.102700:52:17.480 --> 00:52:21.360
Oh, he had to have been a little embarrassed by that.102800:52:21.599 --> 00:52:24.679
I'm sure this being her, it's her debut. If I'm102900:52:24.719 --> 00:52:27.679
not masedy, Yeah, I believe. So I do like Bonnie Hunt,103000:52:27.880 --> 00:52:28.400
I do too.103100:52:28.840 --> 00:52:32.599
It was funny because she's so recognizable, but I blanked.103200:52:33.079 --> 00:52:35.000
I can't think of anything else that she was in,103300:52:35.239 --> 00:52:37.519
and then I was like, holy crap. Jerry McGuire Jesus.103400:52:37.760 --> 00:52:40.840
Maybe maybe that makes sense why Tom Cruise couldn't remember either.103500:52:41.039 --> 00:52:43.719
Yeah, I want to say she had a sitcom or103600:52:43.760 --> 00:52:45.480
a show. I don't know. Yeah, I thought she had103700:52:45.519 --> 00:52:47.639
a last TV show so long, but she got a103800:52:47.679 --> 00:52:49.960
show at some point. That's what I thought, all right.103900:52:50.000 --> 00:52:53.440
Moving on to box office, Rainman hit theaters on December sixteenth,104000:52:53.559 --> 00:52:56.320
nineteen eighty eight, opening wide in twelve hundred and forty104100:52:56.360 --> 00:52:59.000
eight locations with a budget of twenty five million. The104200:52:59.079 --> 00:53:02.920
movie was a box office success, pulling in one hundred104300:53:02.920 --> 00:53:05.599
and seventy two point eight million across North America and104400:53:05.679 --> 00:53:09.960
another two hundred and thirty nine point nine million internationally.104500:53:10.440 --> 00:53:12.760
It opened at number two at the box office, but104600:53:12.920 --> 00:53:16.039
climbed to number one in its third week, earning even104700:53:16.079 --> 00:53:18.920
more than it did on its debut. It held the104800:53:18.960 --> 00:53:21.719
top spot for four additional weeks and remained in the104900:53:21.760 --> 00:53:25.719
top ten for another eight weeks. In its sixteenth week105000:53:25.760 --> 00:53:29.599
of release, Rainman returned to the number one spot and105100:53:29.679 --> 00:53:32.599
stayed in the top ten for eight more weeks after that.105200:53:32.800 --> 00:53:34.960
By the end of its run, it became the highest105300:53:35.000 --> 00:53:38.920
grossing movie of nineteen eighty eight. Wow, that movie was huge.105400:53:40.599 --> 00:53:43.000
So moving on to reviews. When growing up in the eighties,105500:53:43.000 --> 00:53:45.000
we would watch at the Movies with Gene Siskel and105600:53:45.079 --> 00:53:47.239
Roger Ebert to hear their reviews and watch clips of105700:53:47.360 --> 00:53:51.280
upcoming movies. Their review of Rainman was unanimous two big105800:53:51.320 --> 00:53:54.679
thumbs up. They were especially impressed by Hoffman's betrayal of105900:53:54.760 --> 00:53:58.840
Raymond and autistic savant. Ebert called it deeply convincing without106000:53:58.840 --> 00:54:02.719
feeling artificial or showy. They also noted that Cruz delivered106100:54:02.760 --> 00:54:06.760
one of his more mature performances, showing real character development.106200:54:07.039 --> 00:54:10.280
Rotten Tomatoes gives it a Tomatometer score of eighty eight percent,106300:54:10.440 --> 00:54:13.679
with a popcorn Meter score of ninety percent. It also106400:54:13.760 --> 00:54:15.760
has an IMDb rating of.106500:54:16.079 --> 00:54:18.639
Eight just eight solid.106600:54:18.880 --> 00:54:22.800
Yes, not very few IMDb movies have a solid number,106700:54:22.960 --> 00:54:24.360
so say a point something.106800:54:24.480 --> 00:54:27.320
I was just surprised to see eight. Yeah, that's great,106900:54:27.519 --> 00:54:27.840
all right.107000:54:27.880 --> 00:54:30.280
So this takes us to additional thoughts and questions. What107100:54:30.400 --> 00:54:33.119
are some additional thoughts and questions you have about rain Man?107200:54:33.519 --> 00:54:36.400
Well, I covered some of my questions already earlier, so107300:54:36.480 --> 00:54:40.320
I'm just going to go into some thoughts. I wanted107400:54:40.320 --> 00:54:44.039
to look up autism and just get the textbook definition107500:54:44.199 --> 00:54:47.000
and just share a little bit with our listeners if107600:54:47.079 --> 00:54:52.119
you don't already know autism or autism spectrum of disorder107700:54:52.239 --> 00:54:57.199
ASD is a neuro developmental condition affecting how people perceive107800:54:57.280 --> 00:55:00.360
the world and interact with others. It involves different and107900:55:00.400 --> 00:55:04.239
social communication, behavior, and sensory processing, with a wide range108000:55:04.320 --> 00:55:07.679
of strengths and support needs. Is not a disease, but108100:55:07.840 --> 00:55:12.679
rather a lifelong form of neuro divergence. Autism is a spectrum,108200:55:12.760 --> 00:55:15.880
meaning it looks different for everyone, from social communication to108300:55:15.920 --> 00:55:20.119
behavioral pattern, sensory processing, and developmental differences. I look this108400:55:20.239 --> 00:55:23.679
up to educate myself. Mainly, I know a little bit108500:55:23.719 --> 00:55:26.039
about it. I just wanted to shine a little more108600:55:26.119 --> 00:55:28.880
light on it for myself and maybe others that don't108700:55:29.000 --> 00:55:33.199
understand what it is specifically, so I wanted to just108800:55:33.440 --> 00:55:39.079
lay that out there. Also in regards to the film itself,108900:55:39.480 --> 00:55:41.639
this kind of ties in Rainman is known in particular109000:55:41.719 --> 00:55:43.880
for its portrayal of a man with both autism and109100:55:44.039 --> 00:55:47.760
savant skills, leading much of its viewing audience to incorrectly109200:55:47.800 --> 00:55:51.760
assume the intellectual capabilities of autistic people at large. Characters109300:55:51.840 --> 00:55:55.639
like Raymond, whose characterization has been criticized for adhering to109400:55:55.719 --> 00:55:59.400
stereotypes are portrayed as having other worldly and intellectual abilities109500:55:59.440 --> 00:56:03.920
that rather than or having that intellectual ability that, rather109600:56:04.000 --> 00:56:06.559
than disable them from a living a normal life, instead109700:56:06.599 --> 00:56:10.159
assists them in a nearly magical way. So there's that109800:56:10.199 --> 00:56:13.039
take on that. And then conversely, rain Man has also109900:56:13.079 --> 00:56:16.280
been seen as dispelling a number of other misconceptions about110000:56:16.280 --> 00:56:20.199
autism and improving public awareness of the failure of many110100:56:20.239 --> 00:56:23.840
agencies to accommodate autistic people and make use of the110200:56:23.880 --> 00:56:28.360
abilities they do have, regardless of whether they have savant110300:56:28.400 --> 00:56:31.360
skills or not. So you can look at this a110400:56:31.360 --> 00:56:35.400
couple different ways. I found that interesting, so thanks for listening.110500:56:35.679 --> 00:56:36.800
I think of it as a positive.110600:56:36.960 --> 00:56:39.639
It brought to light what autism was, and yes it110700:56:39.719 --> 00:56:42.280
was as the rare case of being the savant, but110800:56:42.920 --> 00:56:45.920
nobody knew what this was or plenty of people suffering110900:56:45.960 --> 00:56:48.599
it and not knowing what they had. So I appreciate111000:56:48.599 --> 00:56:49.559
that what it brought to light.111100:56:49.920 --> 00:56:52.320
And it's interesting because you can look at it that111200:56:53.039 --> 00:56:55.880
there are people suffering from it. But I've been enlightened111300:56:55.880 --> 00:56:58.639
a little bit by listening to and I am going111400:56:58.679 --> 00:57:02.000
to give this a very strong shout out. The Telepathy111500:57:02.079 --> 00:57:05.440
Tapes podcast, which was created and hosted by Kai Dickens,111600:57:06.280 --> 00:57:11.039
which deals with a mainly nonverbal, non speaking autistic children111700:57:11.599 --> 00:57:15.119
that have telepathy. So when you talk about other worldly111800:57:15.159 --> 00:57:18.880
and magical capabilities, this is my opinion, and my opinion111900:57:18.960 --> 00:57:21.840
only right now that I am expressing, But I've listened112000:57:21.880 --> 00:57:23.800
to these tapes and i am a believer. I'm a112100:57:23.800 --> 00:57:26.280
big fan of this podcast, and if you would like112200:57:26.320 --> 00:57:28.639
to know more, you can listen on your own. There's112300:57:28.679 --> 00:57:31.679
also a show called Love on the Spectrum. I believe112400:57:31.679 --> 00:57:35.199
that's on Netflix and now you can have and you112500:57:35.239 --> 00:57:37.960
probably would have very specific opinions on this as to112600:57:38.000 --> 00:57:41.679
whether or not the podcast and or show are exploitative112700:57:42.280 --> 00:57:46.079
or are we, especially with the show, are we laughing112800:57:46.119 --> 00:57:48.639
at are we making fun of? Are we laughing with them?112900:57:48.719 --> 00:57:52.000
Are we learning more? You'll have your opinions, but it113000:57:52.119 --> 00:57:56.039
brings awareness regardless. So I just wanted to give both113100:57:56.079 --> 00:57:58.800
of those pieces of media some attention.113200:58:00.159 --> 00:58:03.400
Jason questions. So I'm totally totally shifting gears here.113300:58:03.599 --> 00:58:06.760
No, yeah, sorry, I totally boguarded the pod there. Sorry.113400:58:06.760 --> 00:58:06.920
Man.113500:58:09.039 --> 00:58:14.119
Were you a fan of the People's Court? Absolutely? Man,113600:58:14.199 --> 00:58:16.800
I watched it when I was a kid. Are you kidding? Yeah?113700:58:16.880 --> 00:58:19.719
That that theme is great? Yeah? Did you watch it113800:58:19.760 --> 00:58:20.039
a lot?113900:58:20.280 --> 00:58:22.119
I think I caught it. It seemed like every time I114000:58:22.159 --> 00:58:25.400
was around my grandparents that seemed to be on. There114100:58:25.480 --> 00:58:27.199
might have been a summer where I would watch it114200:58:27.400 --> 00:58:29.079
and then go out back out to play.114300:58:29.280 --> 00:58:31.519
So it goes on at like seven o'clock. Yeah, I114400:58:31.559 --> 00:58:34.840
mean this is the predecessor to Judge Judy, which, of114500:58:34.880 --> 00:58:38.960
course you know yours truly was on. Yeah.114600:58:39.039 --> 00:58:40.679
I'd looked online to see if I could find an114700:58:40.679 --> 00:58:43.920
old episode and they had recent episodes, So it's still on.114800:58:44.239 --> 00:58:45.760
The People's Court is still going.114900:58:45.840 --> 00:58:48.199
Yeah, it's a female judge, and I think it has115000:58:48.280 --> 00:58:52.159
some ties to the GMZ host. I can't think of115100:58:52.199 --> 00:58:55.920
his name, Harry Levin. Yes, yeah, he's part of it too.115200:58:56.159 --> 00:58:57.960
There you go. Here's a question.115300:58:58.159 --> 00:59:01.039
So Spielberg was at one point point attached to this movie.115400:59:01.079 --> 00:59:03.159
How much DIVI different do you think the movie would115500:59:03.159 --> 00:59:07.159
have been if he had directed it? Wow, it's hard115600:59:07.159 --> 00:59:09.239
to answer, but that intrigues me.115700:59:09.599 --> 00:59:11.960
At this time in nineteen eighty eight, it would have115800:59:12.039 --> 00:59:17.519
been a lot more bittersweet. I think the journey would115900:59:17.559 --> 00:59:19.639
have had different level. I think just like we were116000:59:19.639 --> 00:59:22.679
talking about. I believe Charlie babbittom Cruz's character would have116100:59:22.800 --> 00:59:27.039
softened earlier and or had probably a couple more levels116200:59:27.559 --> 00:59:32.199
in adjusting and learning and adapting and being more open116300:59:32.280 --> 00:59:35.519
to maybe adapting or I'm not sure, but it would116400:59:35.559 --> 00:59:41.559
have had that kind of saccherin bittersweetness, probably not tenfold,116500:59:41.679 --> 00:59:44.480
but at least maybe fivefold than it is in its116600:59:44.559 --> 00:59:46.960
current form, because that's Spielberg, and that's what I love116700:59:47.000 --> 00:59:50.360
about Spielberg films. So it would have been I'll know,116800:59:50.400 --> 00:59:51.960
I'm going to admit this to the audience right now.116900:59:52.000 --> 00:59:53.440
I cry at the end of this movie. I do117000:59:53.559 --> 00:59:57.239
every time, and if Spielberg had directed it, I'd be117100:59:57.280 --> 00:59:59.159
taken a bath in my tears most likely.117200:59:59.360 --> 01:00:01.880
I think that's so I would say Spielberg had directed this,117301:00:02.079 --> 01:00:03.440
I'd been crying at the end.117401:00:03.760 --> 01:00:06.639
Yeah. Yeah, now here's I'm going to throw it right117501:00:06.679 --> 01:00:10.079
back at you. Martin Brest also was signed on if117601:00:10.079 --> 01:00:13.000
I'm not mistaken to direct this, he but then I117701:00:13.039 --> 01:00:15.239
forget why he got pulled off or he decided to117801:00:15.239 --> 01:00:17.840
going to a different direction, But obviously a different would117901:00:17.880 --> 01:00:21.480
be a different take too. Yeah. Wow, because if you118001:00:21.480 --> 01:00:25.559
think another midnight classic road trip duo movie. Right, Yeah,118101:00:25.599 --> 01:00:28.039
I wonder if that's why he turned it down. It's like,118201:00:28.079 --> 01:00:29.960
I've already kind of done this the road trip thing.118301:00:30.280 --> 01:00:32.920
I don't need to do another one. It would be interesting,118401:00:33.119 --> 01:00:34.599
it is kind of yeah, in a way, it would118501:00:34.599 --> 01:00:38.320
be in his wheels a big what if. Yep.118601:00:39.039 --> 01:00:41.400
Right, here's a confession. This is probably one of my118701:00:41.480 --> 01:00:44.039
favorite scenes of this movie, just because I'm like, oh118801:00:44.039 --> 01:00:46.719
my god, this is so me. When Cruise finds out118901:00:46.760 --> 01:00:48.880
he's basically bankrupt and he goes to the mill of119001:00:48.880 --> 01:00:52.440
the field and just screams, son of my badge. I119101:00:52.480 --> 01:00:54.960
swear that is me every time I come home at119201:00:55.039 --> 01:00:57.800
night and try to find parking in my neighborhood. I119301:00:57.800 --> 01:01:00.519
don't know how many times I'm in my car and119401:01:00.559 --> 01:01:03.280
I just do exactly what Tom Cruise did. When I119501:01:03.280 --> 01:01:05.239
saw that, I just started laughing. I'm like, holy shit,119601:01:05.320 --> 01:01:07.480
that's me. It's because a long day, all I want119701:01:07.559 --> 01:01:09.199
is a parking spot, and I'm just like, son of119801:01:09.239 --> 01:01:09.639
a bitch.119901:01:11.920 --> 01:01:17.519
We've all been there. It's so great. Hashtag La living Man. Yeah,120001:01:17.559 --> 01:01:20.719
I've been much much more vulgar than that, But I120101:01:20.719 --> 01:01:24.960
feel the frustration that's that screaming at the because I'm120201:01:24.960 --> 01:01:27.320
sure I go to that high register too every once.120301:01:27.840 --> 01:01:30.719
First it's does anybody in my neighborhood fucking work?120401:01:31.079 --> 01:01:33.679
And then it's son of a bitch? That's the Isnt120501:01:33.679 --> 01:01:37.039
that Fascinating's like, what's going on? There can't be that120601:01:37.119 --> 01:01:40.159
many cars? Why are Or you go to any massive120701:01:40.199 --> 01:01:42.480
parking lot and it's like seven in the morning and120801:01:42.519 --> 01:01:45.960
it's full. This can't It's not even possible. How could120901:01:46.000 --> 01:01:47.199
there be so many people here?121001:01:47.719 --> 01:01:51.039
Yeah, that made me feel good to hear him just121101:01:51.119 --> 01:01:52.960
scream out in the middle of nowhere. I'm like, oh, yeah,121201:01:52.960 --> 01:01:55.280
that'd me. I wish I'd get on my car sometimes.121301:01:54.880 --> 01:01:58.840
And just be like, you should do that because I121401:01:58.880 --> 01:02:02.159
think it. The acoustics are perfect in the parking garage121501:02:02.199 --> 01:02:05.159
for that. Yes, just to hear the echo, that would121601:02:05.159 --> 01:02:08.400
be great. Man. I have one personal attachment to this121701:02:08.440 --> 01:02:13.320
film being that in this fiction we have Raymond Babbitt.121801:02:13.599 --> 01:02:16.920
When he gets nervous, he keeps reciting the classic comedic121901:02:16.960 --> 01:02:19.960
sketch who's on first? Yes, And he talks about how122001:02:20.000 --> 01:02:23.800
they talk about how he was shown that by their father,122101:02:23.960 --> 01:02:26.039
by his dad showed it to him when he was young. Well,122201:02:26.400 --> 01:02:28.480
same here. My dad showed it to me when I122301:02:28.519 --> 01:02:30.840
was young, and it's always been one of my favorites. And122401:02:30.880 --> 01:02:32.280
I just wanted to give a shout out and say,122501:02:32.320 --> 01:02:35.400
if you have not, for any reason in your lifetime122601:02:35.800 --> 01:02:40.119
watched the Abbott and Costello classic routine. Who's on first?122701:02:40.440 --> 01:02:43.480
Go look it up on YouTube. Many different versions of it.122801:02:43.719 --> 01:02:45.760
I think there's something like it feels like there's an122901:02:45.800 --> 01:02:49.079
abridged version and unabridged version, but they're doing it in123001:02:49.159 --> 01:02:53.519
different locations or stages and costumes and such. But it's fantastic.123101:02:53.559 --> 01:02:56.199
It's one of the all time greats. So look it123201:02:56.280 --> 01:02:59.079
up on YouTube as soon as you can watch it again.123301:02:59.280 --> 01:03:02.719
I've seen someone do first time watch and then analyze.123401:03:02.719 --> 01:03:05.800
It was kind of funny, Oh yeah, yeah, because usually123501:03:05.840 --> 01:03:10.119
it's always people doing songs or comedians and I was like, Oh,123601:03:10.199 --> 01:03:12.079
someone's actually doing the Abbott Castello sketch.123701:03:12.079 --> 01:03:12.719
It's hilarious.123801:03:13.039 --> 01:03:14.519
So how to watch it just to see what their123901:03:14.519 --> 01:03:15.199
reaction was?124001:03:16.920 --> 01:03:17.719
It was positive?124101:03:18.000 --> 01:03:21.079
Good should be I guess it's time for a rating.124201:03:21.159 --> 01:03:21.480
Huh.124301:03:21.599 --> 01:03:23.480
Let's do it all right on a scale of one124401:03:23.480 --> 01:03:24.800
to five toothpicks.124501:03:25.000 --> 01:03:28.199
What do you give rain Man? I'm giving it four124601:03:29.000 --> 01:03:33.960
strong toothpicks that don't splinter. I'll admit I do have124701:03:34.000 --> 01:03:37.119
a nostalgic attachment to it. There's just for me, there's124801:03:37.159 --> 01:03:41.719
some overwhelming positives personally. You have the Oscar winning performance124901:03:42.000 --> 01:03:45.719
by Hoffman. I think this is Tom Cruise's best acting performance.125001:03:45.840 --> 01:03:48.880
I think he was snubbed for a Best Supporting Actor125101:03:48.920 --> 01:03:53.000
nod at least a nomination. I was looking back at125201:03:53.119 --> 01:03:57.000
the competition which was stiff here, but he was up125301:03:57.079 --> 01:04:00.760
against Kevin klein Is the winner. Talked about a fish125401:04:00.800 --> 01:04:03.599
called Wanda and that was a strange one. Yeah, Alec125501:04:03.639 --> 01:04:07.079
Guinness was nominated. You have Martin Landau River Phoenix for125601:04:07.679 --> 01:04:11.199
Running on Empty and Dean Stockwell, so, I don't know,125701:04:11.239 --> 01:04:13.559
maybe instead of I don't know, I think we could125801:04:13.599 --> 01:04:19.599
have slid Tom in there somewhere to vote for him. Well.125901:04:20.159 --> 01:04:23.000
I still really appreciated him in this film, and I126001:04:23.119 --> 01:04:26.360
love the score by Hans so classic road trip film,126101:04:26.519 --> 01:04:29.400
really well shot. It's a beautiful film and a tear126201:04:29.480 --> 01:04:31.679
jerker in the end. For me, I connect to it.126301:04:32.079 --> 01:04:34.920
I love when finally we have the softer moments in126401:04:34.960 --> 01:04:37.920
that middle scene at the Big Eights Motel, when we126501:04:38.199 --> 01:04:42.599
have the reveal of Raymond versus rain Man and some126601:04:42.679 --> 01:04:46.800
information that I just love seeing Cruise's reaction in those moments,126701:04:46.840 --> 01:04:49.519
and then the entire Vegas sequence. These are just really126801:04:49.519 --> 01:04:52.559
really memorable, iconic scenes for me. So I think it's126901:04:52.559 --> 01:04:55.119
worthy of all the oscars I give it for toothpicks.127001:04:55.400 --> 01:04:58.239
Wow, maeah, I'm kind of stuck right now. I have127101:04:58.360 --> 01:05:03.559
three and a half toothpicks. Sure, but man Hoffman's performance alone, I.127201:05:03.519 --> 01:05:05.239
Know now that you say that, I feel like maybe127301:05:05.280 --> 01:05:07.760
we haven't talked about Hoffman enough and just how good127401:05:07.800 --> 01:05:10.480
he is, right, you know, we could break down each127501:05:10.519 --> 01:05:13.920
scene and just all the little details like the ticks127601:05:13.960 --> 01:05:17.719
and the mannerisms and the physicality as I mentioned earlier. Yeah,127701:05:17.880 --> 01:05:21.440
I mean it's you can't keep your eyes off of him. No,127801:05:21.639 --> 01:05:25.480
not at all, And just my over all complaint, it's127901:05:25.519 --> 01:05:29.519
really just Tom Cruise, but not it's not his acting.128001:05:29.800 --> 01:05:30.760
It wasn't him.128101:05:30.760 --> 01:05:32.239
But yeah, I was a little biased going in in128201:05:32.280 --> 01:05:34.599
the first time, so I don't think I've watched it128301:05:34.880 --> 01:05:38.239
anywhere near as many times as you have, But watching128401:05:38.280 --> 01:05:40.800
it this time, it was more of a writing issue128501:05:40.840 --> 01:05:44.840
with how they progressed the character along. I don't feel128601:05:44.840 --> 01:05:47.199
like you should dig into a toothpick and a half128701:05:47.199 --> 01:05:48.719
for that, because everything.128801:05:48.480 --> 01:05:51.239
I think you swayed me on that point, though, I128901:05:51.239 --> 01:05:54.599
think I have to agree with you. From a writing standpoint.129001:05:54.800 --> 01:05:58.079
For his character, there weren't a lot of levels until129101:05:58.119 --> 01:06:01.039
it gets late into the film. Yeah. Uh yeah, you129201:06:01.079 --> 01:06:02.239
know what, I don't have to go four two.129301:06:02.480 --> 01:06:04.400
I think I have to go four tooth picks.129401:06:04.519 --> 01:06:06.639
I'm gonna have to change. Look at that. You swayed129501:06:06.679 --> 01:06:10.199
me for once. Oh hey, first time for everything. Yeah,129601:06:10.239 --> 01:06:13.599
there we go, So both both fours. So, yes, we129701:06:13.639 --> 01:06:16.079
had four four tooth picks left in the box. That's129801:06:16.079 --> 01:06:19.159
what we That's what we did. That's very good. All right.129901:06:19.159 --> 01:06:21.159
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