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Hello, welco with the All Eighties Movies Podcast, the podcast
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where we talk about the blockbusters, the flops, and everything
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in between from one of the precious decades from movies,
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the nineteen eighties. I'm her host Bill Banton Loum McNee
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on this journey revisiting eighties movies. Is my co host
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Jason Nassik. Jason, You're the most incredible ass kisser I
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have ever seen.
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Thank you very much, Bill, I do my best.
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That's right, listeners, we are discussing with Spoils and plenty.
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The nineteen eighty five comedy sequel Police Academy two their
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first assignment. It was produced by The Lad Company and
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distributed by Warner Brothers. The movie stars Steve Gumberg, Michael Winslow,
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collieen Camp, bobcat Goldway, and David Graff. Directed by Jerry Paris.
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This movie is right at PG thirteen with the running
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time of one hour and twenty seven minutes. We covered
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Police Academy back in season four. So what is this
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movie about? What's on the box? If you grew up
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in the nineteen eighties and what's your local video store?
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To rent this movie?
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You would find this description on the back of the
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VHS box. It is what's in the box. Take it away, Jason,
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Watch out. A wacky wizard of Ozzy and his band
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of merry Punkers are on the prowl. They're leveling their
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spray cans and painting the town red or any color
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of graffiti. They please never mind the misspellings. If you
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see this leathered and studded gang of pin headed pranksters, run,
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don't walk the other way, because they're also emptying the
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pockets of anyone sharing the sidewalk. In the wake of
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this new wave of crime, you might be wondering where
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the educational system has gone wrong, But relax, America. Think
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of the police Academy. Now that's the kind of school
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you can trust. And guess what the raw recruits of
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police Academy are back. When this hilarious bunch of odd
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balls in blue tangles with the painting Punkers, you're in
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for an open and shutcase of NonStop laughter called Police
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Academy two their first assignment. Among those again answering law
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enforcement's most uproarious roll call are Likable Meathead, Mahoney, Florist
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turn flat Foot, high Tower, wild Eyed weapons Freak, Tackleberry,
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squeaky voiced hooks, sound effects whiz Kid Larvell, and the
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impeccably inept Academy commandant Eric Lesarde. Newcomers to the High
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Jinks and Handcuffs include Howard Hessman as the Precinct Captain,
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Tim Kazarinski as a Fuddy Duddy Nerds nerd, and Bob
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Golthwaite as Zed, the Ozzy Osbourne like gang leader who,
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in the absence of bats, choose up scenes with outrageous
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punk style. America welcomed the return of its bumbling, gut
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busting crimebusters in a most noticeable way, as Police Academy two,
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their first assignment, recorded the biggest springtime opening in box
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office history. So why not see for yourself what all
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the fur and fun is about for the first time
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in your life. You'll be glad there's a riot, a
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laugh riot in the streets. Police Academy too their first assignment,
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So that was what's in the box and Jason, I
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was impressive getting through that. Holy Moly, that's a plethora
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of tongue twisters.
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Well, as listeners probably know already, the only reason I
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got through it is because of your ability as an editor.
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No one needs to know a secret. That was rough. Yeah,
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but that was a fun one. That was a long
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one too. That was a long one.
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Jason, do you remember the first time you saw a
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Police Academy to their first assignment?
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My first assignment was to watch this at some point
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on cable, and I did, and that's all I remember.
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To be honest, there's no question I know I saw
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multiple times on cable. But other than that, Bill Band,
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I have no memory of this film and no attachment
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to it outside of ague feeling that I probably thought
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it was Ahilair. Yes, when I was a kid. That's
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what my part is telling me that I enjoyed it
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at some point, But that's all I got. I'm just
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going to defer to you right away.
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This was the only Police Academy movie I had seen
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in the theater. My dad took me to see this one,
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which was surprising because since it came out in the spring,
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we usually didn't go to the movies when school was
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in session. So the fact that my dad actually took
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me to see this, I think because he was just
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a huge fan of the first one, and you know,
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because it's PG. Thirteen the AMC Orleans eight. I do
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remember that cool Okay, so let's talk about the movie. Then.
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What are our impressions of Police Academy two?
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What do you got, Jason? Are our impressions? Indeed, Bill Bant,
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this was a rough watch for me. Man, I'm sorry
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to say, but I got this immediate sense as it
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began that this was going to be a different experience
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from watching the first film in the series. It felt
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a little flat. It felt like it was missing a
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certain energy that I was trying to pinpoint. Mainly, it
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was a pace that the first one I felt had.
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It felt as if the edits in this speaking of editing,
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weren't as sharp or quick enough, and the movie wasn't
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quite directed as well, And there might be an explanation
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for this. We may discuss this later. But most importantly,
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this just wasn't funny for me. The jokes weren't landing,
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and there are some decent setups, which was more frustrating
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for me. Even more frustrating because I was like, Oh,
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there's gonna have to be some laughs as a result
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of the setup. But there was a lack of follow
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through and there weren't great payoffs for me, And that
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could just be my sensibility, my sense of humor my taste.
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For instance, right from the start, when this film begins
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with that great theme song, I do want to be
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a little positive here, it still look a theme signs
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with the credits start to roll, and we see Tim
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Kazarinsky as Sweet Chuck enforcing all of his security measures
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at his what would you call that that lighting shop,
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his retail that sells lamps and lights and chandeliers. So
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he has all these wonderful the extreme security measures that
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he's installing and turning on and setting up, and you're like, wow,
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this is gonna be great when all these things go off,
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and they don't. They actually move away from that, and
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he ends up going to an ATM, which then is
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where the action takes place. And the Scullions, I keep
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wanting to say scallions, but it's Scullions led by of course,
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bobcat Goldwaite. Great to see him doing his crazy shtick
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and that was his thing in the eighties. And why
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didn't they rob the store? I thought that was what
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we were just being set up for. But that's just
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a microcosm of my issues I think I was having
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with this, or I know I was having with this.
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Rewatch by the way when I was watching do you
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remember when ATMs first came into effect, when you were
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able to use an ATM? It just made me think
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about this like it was a very eighties thing watching it,
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and then I was like, wait a minute, I don't
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even remember ATMs necessarily as a kid.
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No, I don't either, I think because I was just
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too young to have money so I wouldn't have to
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go to a banker a ATM.
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Yeah, but I don't even recall seeing them that much.
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And maybe that's because I, just, like you said, I'm
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not going into the bank as a kid or even
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a teenager. But I had to look this up. Here's
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a fun fact for y'all. The world's first ATM was
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unveiled on June twenty seventh, nineteen sixty seven, at a
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Barclays Bank branch in Enfield, North London. Goes back to
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nineteen sixty seven. I never would have guessed that, Yeah,
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I would have never figured that. So back on point here,
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I just felt after that weird opening that then everything
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was going to be either a site gag or a pratfall,
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and either it was weird or gross or silly, as
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if it were being performed for a room full of
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young teenage boys. That's the particular demographic for this type
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of movie. And there's an example here where Steve Guttenberg
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great who plays Mahoney. We know what to expect here.
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This is not going to be The Godfather by any stretch.
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Just we know what to expect to a certain extent.
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I don't think I had my expectations set to high here.
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Near the beginning of the film, we see him at
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the tailor. He's about to get a new police uniform,
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and he basically bribes the young girl for her balloon,
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gives her a Snickers bar, she gives him her balloon animal,
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and then approaches the very attractive female tailor and it
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just turns into him doing a visual dick joke. He's
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putting the balloon in his pants as if he has
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a big boner right in her face as she's taking
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his measurements. And I was like, that's not even funny.
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What are we doing here? That's just kind of it's
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very sophomoric and very cross. I don't want to overthink
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this as if it wasn't what I was expecting. And
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I know these types of jokes in the style of
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humor existed in the first film. I just felt in
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the first film either the writing was stronger to back
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it up and or some of these scenes actually serve
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the story a little bit more. But it was scenes
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like that that just fell flat for me. I was like,
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I'm not going to laugh out loud at that kind
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of humor right now. And maybe that's just unfortunately the
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adult in me, and as a kid, I probably thought
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it was really silly, But the first film felt like
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it had a kind of a clear direction as to
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where it was going with a lot of the hijinks,
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and or maybe it could be crazy, but and it
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felt like in the first film, the entire cast seemed
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to be on the same page in the same movie,
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and I had some issues with either the characters how
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they were portrayed in this and who the cast members
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were actually I should say cast of characters, not actors themselves.
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So those are just some issues I had from this.
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It was a little bit of a It was just
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a flat watch for me. The jokes felt flat and
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it didn't work for me. So that's my first impression
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watching this as an adult. Unfortunately, I was hoping just
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to sit down for less than an hour and a
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half and have fun with this. But I got a
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little frustrated, to be honest.
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Wow, that's kind of surprising to hear that you were
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frustrated with it. One of the things I do not
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like about this movie is if you quizzed me on
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when scenes happened throughout the movie, I couldn't answer that
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because all it is is just a series of vignettes
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that are strung together, and they can be strung together
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in any order, and it doesn't affect the movie whatsoever.
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There's no real plot. It's just here's a little funny bit.
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Let's go on to the next one. Here's the funny bit.
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Let's go on to the next one. Here's the funny bit.
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But I think what I do like about the movie
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is I really enjoy the characters. I like Mahoney, I
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like High Tower, I like tackle Berry, I like Jones.
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So they're likable enough for me that they helped me
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get through the film, and I'll find some of the
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stuff they do throughout the movie funny. But the writing
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is on the wall with this film that this series
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is going to get stale, and it's going to get
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stale really quick because they're already rehashing most of the
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jokes for the first one. It's like, Okay, this was
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funny in the first movie, how do we do this
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again the second one. So there is not a lot
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of originality in this film. But if you like the
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jokes in the first one, I think they still kind
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of worked in the second one. I agree too. I
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don't think it's directed very well. I don't think it's
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shot very well. I do like most of the new
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characters they brought in. I was very surprised to see
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Howard Hesspin in it, right, I think just because of
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what I know about him. Yeah, this doesn't seem like
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a role he would take. And of course afterwards he
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said he wished he had never done it, So it
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does make sense, right, But I think it was enjoyable
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enough that I was like, Okay, not a bad sequel.
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It's not going to equal the first. But you're like,
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if they keep going down this path, there's gonna be problems.
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And that's exactly what they did. Gotcha. That completely tracks
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And I'm glad we're talking about the cast and you
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brought up these actors that are very likable in these roles.
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They're very specific roles. We know exactly who these characters
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are and in a way sometimes a little bit of
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a caricature, but it does work for this type of comedy.
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Gutenberg is got that smarmy, goofy grinning like an idiot
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smile on his face the whole movie, Like he's literally
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smiling throughout the whole movie. Bubba Smith very serviceable. Always
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like to see Michael Winslow doing as sound effects. He's
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a talented guy. Marion Ramsey as Hooks doing the squeaky voice,
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it's effective. I think David Graff is great as tackle Berry. Yes,
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he was made for the part, and his facial expressions
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and his delivery is wonderful, and he has a kind
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of a goofy great that big bumbling presence, but always
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fun to see what he's going to do with the firearms.
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So it's good to see the band of brothers and